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    reality of motion

    Is motion real or is it just an illusion? A product of the human mind. when an electron moves from there to here, is it the same electron that arrived? Is it the same photon that arrived here from the light of the sun?

    When I move from here to there, technically, I am not the same person I was a few seconds ago, since I have aged a few seconds and now older by a few seconds.

    We are not really travelling in time but accurately we are really just changing in time: getting older, getting wiser, getting smarter, getting dumber, getting thinner, getting fatter, getting weaker, getting slower, getting poorer, getting richer, getting angrier, getting happier, getting deeper in debts. I'll never be the same person I was a second ago!

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    True, good point.

    THat means that we never are what we are, becuase when we try to realize or someone tries to relize what we are we already are someone else, not the same. So, when we travel in space-time, we are changing.

    I think motion is that, no?

    The change of something. If motion didn't exist, then time wouldn't exist, or atleast for us it wouldn't because we describe and notice time because of motion. So whena dn where there is the absolute zero (-273º celcius) there is no time. Which comes again with the fact that there is no time in vacuum.

    So, time isn't fundamental becuase it requiers motion. What does motion requier?

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    i am making the assertion that motion is an effect. The causes are the transformations of 4 states: 1. continuous space, 2. quantized space, 3. matter, 4. energy.

    when matter is transformed to energy, we use Einstein's [math]E=mc^2[/math].
    when energy is transformed to continuous space (S) we use [math]S=cE[/math]
    when energy is transformed to quantized space (H) we use [math]H=E^2[/math]
    when matter is transformed to continuous space we use [math]S=mc^3[/math]
    when energy is transformed to matter we use [math]m=\frac{E}{c^2}[/math]
    and many more...but the proportionality constants are always powers of the speed of light.

    transformation power greater than 1 are superluminal transformations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    i am making the assertion that motion is an effect. The causes are the transformations of 4 states: 1. continuous space, 2. quantized space, 3. matter, 4. energy.

    when matter is transformed to energy, we use Einstein's [math]E=mc^2[/math].
    when energy is transformed to continuous space (S) we use [math]S=cE[/math]
    when energy is transformed to quantized space (H) we use [math]H=E^2[/math]
    when matter is transformed to continuous space we use [math]S=mc^3[/math]
    when energy is transformed to matter we use [math]m=\frac{E}{c^2}[/math]
    and many more...but the proportionality constants are always powers of the speed of light.

    transformation power greater than 1 are superluminal transformations.
    You mean what causes time,no? because what something causes and the effect of something are the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    when energy is transformed to continuous space (S) we use [math]S=cE[/math]
    when matter is transformed to continuous space we use [math]S=mc^3[/math]
    Out of these two, you get that mc^3=cE, so leaving alone the E, we get

    mc^3=E
    c

    So simplifying, we eliminate a c from the c^3 becuase it is devided by c, and you get: mc^2=E, or what is the same:

    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    when matter is transformed to energy, we use Einstein's [math]E=mc^2[/math].
    I guess you had already noticed this and when you created them you were thinking in them explaining Einstein's formula.

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    in terms of m and c, quantized space H is given by

    [math]H=m^2C^4[/math]

    this can only be true if the total linear momentum of the universe is zero and m is the rest mass of the universe, which include antimatter, dark matter, and matter.

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    A short excerpt from QED

    A short excerpt from:



    QED


    The Strange Theory of Light and Matter


    author


    Richard P. Feynman


    (Please note the emphasis Feynman puts on
    motion being the unifying element in all these separate fields)



    ". . . it was soon discovered, after Sir Isaac explained the laws of motion, that some of these apparently different things were aspects of the same thing. For example, the phenomena of sound could be completely understood in the motion of atoms in the air. So sound was no longer considered something in addition to motion. It was also discovered that heat phenomena was easily understandable from the laws of motion. In this way great globs of physics were synthesized into a simplified theory. The theory of gravitation, on the other hand, was not understandable from the laws of motion, and even today it stands isolated from the other theories. Gravitation is, so far, not understandable in terms of . . . "

    motion or relative motion that produces not only gravity but all the forces,

    that I explained and published in this 1966 relative
    motion book linkbelow:

    http://www.rbduncan.com/pge1.html



    ABSTRACT of the above book:

    You do NOT need to visualize four separate fundamental forces when these are really only one force that can easily be viewed by using a frequency modification of Ampere's 1825 laws

    This Britannica article http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9074111 tells you about Uhlenbeck and Goudsmit who were denied the Nobel Prize in 1925. when they discovered electron spin, because of ignorance of the quantum theorists.

    Quantum theorists still adamantly insist that there is no motion in the quantum realm even though we find - as Goudsmit and Uhlenbeck did, all the signs of angular momentum, that this motion produces.

    Motion, space and time are all things that are restricted to one single spin/orbit frequency realm.


    Why?

    Because all detectors (us too) have an oscillator in them (us) detecting exactly like a superheterodyne detector does.


    Only the evidence (of
    motion) can be transferred out as Wheeler and Feynman showed us.

    I am in agreement with the quantum theorists that no motion exists in the electron's realm but I also add the caveat that if you say it doesn't exist there then you must say it also does not exist anywhere in this universe.

    And, believe it or not, there is no such thing as motion per se for this entire universe.

    It is our oscillator mixing with what is here that is giving us our concept of motion

    This is why

    Motion
    (our concept of it) only exists in subset realms of this universe and is restricted to those subset realms. The constant c proves this.

    BUT

    Use Occam's razor and move your mind into each separate spin/orbit frequency realmat a timeand view it having our concept of motion and using Ampere's Laws and then you can see it all as one force and not the 4 fundamental forces that present science views it as.

    SORRY

    You can't do the math this way though, as Ampere himself found out even though he was one of the math experts of his time.

    I'm afraid that math along with our concept of motion is restricted to one single spin/orbit frequency system at a time.

    DPFJr
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    A new definition of linear momentum in terms of quantized space (H) and continuous space (S) is given by

    [math]p=\frac{H}{S}[/math]

    and if E is the total relativistic energy of the photon its momentum is

    [math]p=\frac{E}{c}[/math]

    If continuous space is expressed as H then

    [math]S=c\sqrt{H}[/math]

    which has a positive and negative solution for continuous space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntonioLao
    [math]S=c\sqrt{H}[/math]
    H is the square of E, and so

    S=cE

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUILLE
    H is the square of E
    the square root of a number (x) has two solutions given by the quadratic formula:

    [math]x=\frac{-b\pm\sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/math]

    if x is expressed by the algebraic polynomial equation of 2nd degree.

    [math] ax^2+bx+c=0[/math]

    it was the argument based on these two solutions that Dirac postulated the existence of antimatter but his math used the concept of spinor algebra.


 

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