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    Quote Originally Posted by Unreal Zelta
    Guille,
    I totally agree with your point, time is constant, motion is not. However, this question always troubles me, "Is time really directly linked to motion?"
    Well, using a quantum mechanical thinking, as we are the ones most (aparently) concerned with the TOE and solving that question, then nobody is going to solve it if we don't. For me, time is the dimension that measures the position of things in relation to motion. I mean, something is always in the dimension of time, either with a lot of motion, a little, or absolute motion, or absolute motionlessness... But always inside the dimension of time. Time is the dimension of motion, that is the relationship. I believe it's like temperature and heat.

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    Dimensionality and Time

    Hi,

    The minkowski metric, which is relativistically invariant (meaning that changing the orientations of objects embedded within it in a relativistic way leave the metric unchanged), has a special part of it that can either be written (ict)^2 or -(ct)^2 this is part of the geometry that describes how the intervals of time are left unchanged by a relativistic transformation (in this space). The paradox you state is interesting, but I don't think it's correct. Time is a dimension, just like the other dimensions, except if you consider the psychological perception of time. The psychological perception of time does present a paradox. This paradox is that how can something that describes a distance, like the minkowski metric, not evolve over time. Time itself must evolve over time. To see why this is true, consider the function t^4 = t^2 + 3 (t^2 = 3), which is a curve for the sake of argument let's say, embedded in minkowski space. In order to generate the full curve, you must change the time parameter. This itself requires time! Now that's the paradox. Philosophers have stated this in various ways. Augustus invoked the presence of God as an argument for why time is so mysterious. Einstein thought the passage of time is psychological and we sit in a block of space-time, but if we do, then why do we see the seasons change like they do? Why is every season different from the next in an unpredictable way? The answer to to the unpredictability is entropy, but that still doesn't get at the root of what time actually is. At least, afaik. I am still learning from the greats, with Roger Penrose's book and Jeffrey Weeks' book.


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    Re: My Time Paradox

    Re: Time & Space,

    Time & Space are the result of our thinking processes which cause us to experience consciousness as particles of thought. In the process of thinking we lose awareness of our consciousness and become what we think and we then experience consciousness as bits coming from our thoughts.

    We are experiencing consciousness as bits stored in thoughts and released as thoughts stored in the brain cells as memories.

    This is the "cause" of - time and space - and the loss of conscious awareness of consciousness as "Infinite ---Consciousness" is the "effect."

    With "Infinite - Consciousness" there is no time or space you are everything --- everywhere --- there is no need to think and consequently no time or space.

    This is humanities evolution in this the "Golden Age."

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    Re: My Time Paradox

    I am learning here that space-time is unreal in the sense that a photon for example is "real". Maybe I'm saying the same thing you are (along with Kant). I would put it like this:
    The quantum "wierdness" they're talking about where "it's not there unless you look" (as an example) isn't all that weird. This is how our minds work! This is how our memory works. It makes no sense to ask "where" the memory has been stored in space. It's not.* But if you want to you'll find it with some probability. Superposition: taste, smell touch etc simultaneously activating a mind set. Sure we can think of lots of examples how this works.

    *It could be argued that the chemical basis of memory is stored in spacetime. Cause and effect is a slippery subject in philosophy. In the quantum cause and effect breaks down. Pattern correspondence is an interesting substitute.

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    Re: My Time Paradox

    '2.2: Time must have time which is itself a property of dimensions.'
    Time is a property of the spatial dimensions, and space is a property of the time dimension. The main difference in our perception of time is that we can only remember events from direction in time, whereas we can turn around to look in any direction spatially.

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    Re: My Time Paradox

    We are more intimately made out of time than out of space. Part of our mechanism is time dependent (chemical processes). It is almost like trees having roots to be able to function in space.
    Now as soon a we get control of our chemical processes and make them time-directional-friendly then behold we step out of the time arrow like a tree stepping out of the ground and start to dance.
    Then we turn to the cosmic process and tell them "see, this is how we prefer it." To which the cosmic process turns to us and admits "congratulation, you are now the cosmic process."
    And so it is becoming.


 

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