[Guille]

Originally Posted by AntonioLao time travel can become theoretically possible only for observers but not as participants. By participants, i mean able to alter the course of history if traveling back in time. As an observer, all one has to do is to catch a photon and extract all information about the past and the future. To overtake the speeding photon, one needs superluminal speed. For an idea of just how fast a photon is: in just one second it reaches the moon.

This is also what I think.

For all of those who have posted recently: we might not be able to change the speed we are going at in time, I don't sya we can, we might, it's a possibility, but we definatelly are travelling in time right now. If not, how could we move? We need time to move in space, and space to move in time. Now, if we are not travelling in time, we would always be in the same moment. So we couldn't be able to move in space. But we get the impression that we do not travell in time because we can't yet (maybe for ever) change our speed in time.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Casey_deJong Time Space which one of these actually moves? I am going to start a new thread because i'm new here and it took me an hour to read yours although it will be bassed along the same lines i'm sure you have a clearer way of phrasing your original paradox by now and that you may even have changed your mind on some issues as the replys have been very convincing it is all a daunting as a new commer to the forum

Thanks. It's true I have a developed my thoughts, but I still agree with the important basis that time and space both co-exist. By the way, dimensions do NOT move. Objects move. In all the dimensions. In spatial, and temporal. But dimensions? no, they don't move, where woudl they move, anyway? where could they if they occupy the whoel universe? I'm thinking of a better way to explain everyone how my paradox and other things I've said work, and make people understand easier. As I have mist the forum for a month, I haven't yet, I willl do it earlly in your thread.

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Casey_deJong i am of the opinion that energy equals time thus the faster we move the more energy we exert thus the quicker we age

YOu see, you have to explain it better.

I agree, maybe. But I need a better explenation. Because time, energy, space and mass could be the same thing but not being equal. You have to times mass by speed of light squared for it to be energy, and so and so. SO, do you have the modifications to be done on each of the for so that their equal?

Maybe the four aren't the same as equal, but the same as that they are all dimensions?

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Casey_deJong lets think about guiles time paradox for a minute Time needs time to be a dimension ok what if time was not a dimension of its own but a property of a dimension the dimesion in which we and our universe exists. how is it that helpful? It stops us looking for answers in the past. i think that Time travel is not possible at least going backwards seems impossible. yet if people think it is possible then they will constantly look to what they could change. the problem being that the first person to go back in time if it were possible would destroy the life of billions just by arriving assuming of course that they aren't institutionalized for saying they are from the future. the space time continueum Perfection and ballance are key to the univese in which case so is harmony for time and space to exist in the same place at the same time they must be the same thing. eg. h20 Both exist Hydrogen and Oxygen creating Water a liquid much denser than either of the origonal components as a matter of fact oxegen and hydrogen are invisible on there own. How do Time and Space come in to it? Imagion a ball of liquid floating in space!!! now in the center of that ball inject some air what happens? now what if the ball was bigger? no! much bigger like the size of our universe big. Imagine the liquid was heavier than the densist of ellements due to its enormous size but in small quantities it is no heavier than heillium. Injecting air of for that matter any thing in the center of this ball would result in bubbles rising or traveling towards the outer surface this at least can be considered when trying to describe why the universe seems to be constantly expanding. also why id didn't collapsse due to gravity a moment after it was created in the throws of a big bang or oterwise.

I would like to understand this because it appears to be a very good thought, but, I don't understand it. Can you re-explain, in a easier, simpler, streighforward way?

[Casey_deJong]

sorry i got side tracked while making that reply i started talking about time being a producer of energy
then began talking about how to explain the bubble universe theory in an easy to understand format

[Casey_deJong]

i formatted and lost my theory so now i only have the gist of it in my head untill i re-write it.
Basiclly it was changing as i wrote it and it needed to in order to be developed
and i hadn't touched the formula side because i wanted to use comon sence before i cot out landish or tried to prove it.


Anyhow

i think that i can explain it simpler although it dose involve using the imagination a little

1. the way we percieve Time is as a form of energy
2. time is refered to usually as constantly moving

I think that time is a form of mass
as our planet moves through the mass of time friction is created. this friction is what makes things age. it is what causes us to be able to observe the results of everything be it the planting of a crop or a science experiment. With out the energy time exerts upon the planet we would not have life as we know it.
If we move faster eg. in a rocket the efects of time change this is proven by experiments referred to as the travelling clock or something like it.
Two clocks one moves when it returns time is differant to the stationary one.
However. both clocks move though space and thus through time just at different speeds.
so the space time continueum is just that a dimension of stationary time and space.
Therefore to move quickly in any direction will speed up time. which means Stopping moving will stop time theoretically. so there is no way to move backwards through time really unless you could move without moving through time but rather though anti-time if such a thing exists which it may as time as far as we know is infinite like space stretching in all directions.

Worm holes were considered the best chance of travelling backwards through time assuming that they are filled with this elusive anti-time or even black holes although the transition between time and anti-time also involves a transition between space and anti-space which involves forces of gravity which cannot be withstood by hollow crafts.

time in my opinion is a form of mass with a special property allowing it to enhance other forms of energy like fire or light.
fire is an energy which is based upon vibration and fuels. the more fuels available the faster the vibrations and the more vibrations the faster the fuel moves through time thus the more friction from the mass of time thus the more heat created

i think i may have confused people by saying time was energy what i ment was that time is a type of mass.

maybe neutrineos are actually time particles and if we unlock their secrets we may be able to use them to slow time.

please if you think i don't make sense tell me so i know to adjust my thinking

[Guille]

Thanks.


It's clear enough, I believe....At list for me, it is.

[Casey_deJong]

time = space = energy = mass
is my way of saying that one would not exist without the three others

[Guille]

Originally Posted by Casey_deJong time = space = energy = mass is my way of saying that one would not exist without the three others

lol.....We posted at the exact same time, I did a bit faster.

You know, this is a very special post for me, because it is my post 1,000!!!!!!!

Well, if you want to say that one couldn't exist with the thers, you shouldn't have the equal sing, but the "Impplies" sing. NO. Actually, you should have the IFF AND ONLY IFF sing. Which is ussually represented as a doble impply: a line that points to both sides. According to logical language, your equation should be:

TIME<--->SPACE<--->ENERGY<--->MASS

By this, you explain both that each:
IMPPLIES AND IS IMPPLIED, IF, AND ONLY IF, THE OTHER ONES EXIST.

[Mimee]

hey there
you guys sound like you have some sound advice or knowledge on this topic.

this makes me super happy...because....im stuck! im doing an assignment on the Tristram Shandy Paradox, which as far as I can gather, is based on the concept of a man who starts to write his autobiography and realises that it takes him one year, to write about 1 day in his life.
he reasons at this rate, he will never finish his book, because everyday he lives, adds an estimated 365days for which he must write about it. BUT the theory is (please correct me if i am wrong!i want to be wrong hehehe)
that if time in infinite then he'll never run out of time and he'll get the story finished? I really dont grasp that concept. Then theres a whole other REVERSE tristram shandy paradox.....
see, i guess im looking at it wrong because, no matter how long he lives for, he wont have the extra time to write about every day in total, for example - what about the day he dies? the only way I think he can write about his whole life is to start writing faster and the more he writes, the more skilled he will be and it wont take him a whole silly year to write about one day
oooookkkkkkkk
can anyone pretty pls shed some light my way?
ill be forever grateful!!!