[harmonygirl]

Jim, I have been struggling with what time actually is. now, I am thinking it is an illusion that is premised on the illusion of our "reality". What if all our choices were played out in different realities? What would this do to the notion of time as linear?

[davidgow77]

Has anyone ever thought of the concept of time being a scalar quantity??? If we have 3 spacial dimensions, all of which are vectors, then surely it should follow that time is simply a scalar? Its not that time is linear (such a concept is only ever going to be a tool to allow us to conceptualize time better, rather than understand exactly what it is), but rather that time is scalar and expands (or inflates) constantly.

Time must therefore be a basic measurement of the relationship between energy (in the form of light or matter) and space. If we have no energy or spzace then we have no time (the conditions before the big bang).

DG

[jim barlow]

We are not going to finish off this topic in sound bytes (or write bytes).

I can contribute this whatever its worth:

time seems to be a very personal thing. I mean our thoughts would not exist without it. (According to the Buddhists that wouldn't be a great loss.)
Our ego seems to be woven of time's stuff. Memory is a time creature and we wouldn't be possible without short/long term memory. Time seems like a spatial thing and we are of it.

I think that forward arrow of time consists of something else. (Thermodynamics) Time is like the ocean. It has been there in its entirery. Arrows or no. I'm sure of that for what it's worth.

[dleviwing]

Those who find the concepts of time to be mysterious and complex have be brainwashed by the many asinine interpretations developed to impress the ignorant. This type of science endeavor has retarded the advancement of real physical theories and allowed the theologians of religious dogma a foothold into the science philosophies of pure knowledge.

This thread provides excellent examples of the absurdities of these interpretations. Speaking of time as anything other than a reference to quantify motion only proclaims the lack of comprehension of the individual stating such nonsense.

[mkirkpatrick]

If I may quote you Dave

"speaking of time as anything other than a refererence to "quantify motion" only proclaims the lack of comprehension of the individuals stating such nonsense"

you have made a valid point there dave,and up to a point I agree with you,(I suppose I am included in the other comments!) here i would not agree is that there is no REAL time to give any reference too!There is indeed motion,although I would qualify that with (there is only motion in the manifested universe)in the unmanifested void,where potentuality is absolutely unrealized,there is absolute motionlessness.Give me a hug Dave?

kindest regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Michael;
My comments are not directed at you or anyone else. Those who post religious and metaphysical ideas in the pure science forums know who they are.

My basic concern is that those who have hyped "Time" as an entity of existence along with other foolish misinterpretations of scientific terminology are having the same effect of retarding the progress of science as religion has done in the past.

[Unreal Zelta]

time is only a word, humans have constructed to decribe a phenomena. As for most modern english (for physics), are derived from either creek or latin (e.g gamma radiation, alpha and beta decay, pi, luxon, tachyon etc). We cannot independently describe natural and artificial occurances. In other words, time is limiting our quantum minds (whenever we think, we have to use that certain amount of words in languages to describe the thought, which can only go to a certain extent).

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by Unreal Zelta time is only a word, humans have constructed to decribe a phenomena. As for most modern english (for physics), are derived from either creek or latin (e.g gamma radiation, alpha and beta decay, pi, luxon, tachyon etc). We cannot independently describe natural and artificial occurances. In other words, time is limiting our quantum minds (whenever we think, we have to use that certain amount of words in languages to describe the thought, which can only go to a certain extent).

Welcome to the
toe.you have made an interesting point!



kind regards michael.

[Guille]

Time is motion. But time is also dimension, in that it tells the position of objects in motion. And time as in dimension is only the measurement of motion. That's it. By the way, culture and nature are not two diametrically opossed concepts, they are joint. So time is part of culture and part of nature, in no case one is cause or consequence of the other, the relationship is not temporal but spatial.

[Unreal Zelta]

However, motion and time are not syncronised, time is always constant, but motion is not, although they affect each other in some ways, but they exist independently. I have a different approach towards its meaning also, time is a constant thought and perception, it is not measurable in any fields of physics( how do we know a second is a second, because the earth's orbital speed around the sun or the oscillations of the cesium atom, I don't think so), but we written it as numerical values to differentiate movements between concrete intervals, but this had to be done to evolutionise human culture.


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