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Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 12:22 PM

How much attention has Itzhak Bars' 2T-physics theory gotten from other scientists? (See Telegraph writeup at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/mai...scitime110.xml.)

My lay person understanding is that his claim to having a potentially viable TOE rests on a framework of 4 dimensions of space and a 2 dimensional plane of time. And that the extra dimension of time and space allow for a symmetry heretofore invisible to M-theory that reconciles relativity and quantum mechanics.

He also indicates that the Large Hadron Collider could reveal supersymmetric particles that would provide strong evidence of his theory. Anybody know what properties these particles would have? And how they would lend support to his theory, rather than more mainstream M-theory?

I've taken a stab at reading through Bar's own description of 2T-physics (see http://physics1.usc.edu/%7Ebars/research.html#2T), but it's pretty opaque to me. But I'd be interested to hear what other scientists make of this as a theory.
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 01:46 PM

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A 2T theory based on two directions of time could become verifiable if and only if the experiments can detect the nonconservation of CPT. C for charge conjugation, P for parity, and T for time asymmetry.


Time independence: [∂E(g)]²=[∂F(a)×∂r(a)]·[∂F(b)×∂r(b)] and Mass independence: a(tr(t)=c²
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 02:44 PM

Would this be a strong confirmation, or is it more the case that detecting nonconservation of CPT would not contradict the theory?
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 02:54 PM

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Would this be a strong confirmation
Yes, it is a necessary confirmation that will also globally not just locallly validate all Feynman diagrams showing particles moving backward in time as ways of explaining particles and antiparticles interactions.


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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 03:24 PM

Could you explain why only 4 dimensions of space are viable, and not 6 of space and 2 of time, Antonio?
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 03:32 PM

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Could you explain why only 4 dimensions of space are viable, and not 6 of space and 2 of time
I've been trying to explain physical dimensionality of spacetime in only one dimension as in one-sided Mobius band and one dimensional Hopf ring topology.


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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-08-2008, 04:03 PM

I usually follow all of your postings, Antonio, but haven't noticed any references of mobius bands and rings.

Do you have a link to your entire theory?
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-09-2008, 02:50 PM

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These two links will give you some ideas about the concepts: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/MoebiusStrip.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hopf_link. I still don't have complete documentations for my research on Hadamard matrices representing squares of energy as quanta of spacetime.


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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-09-2008, 06:10 PM

I've been doing some research myself on the mobius strip and how it relates to time as the sole governing factor of reality. It is said that the strip only has one side and that duality is unified within it like a type of heavenly wedding band, but it seems to be a time-dependent phenomenon because at each point (in spacetime) there are two sides and two edges. When the strip is twisted continually it can represent dilated cycles of propagation in the form of photons and gravitons when twisted half turns because they are their own antiparticles, and electrons and positrons when twisted full turns because they are interdependent.

Applied to high-energy physics, and those wavelets that Michael mentioned in the other thread, the annihilation of photons and gravitons into electrons and positrons quantify spacetime curvature according to the same discrete energies so the math doesn't have to change; but the annihilation of electrons and positrons into photons and gravitons releases energy exponentially as the false vacuum decays into the true vacuum.

I think also the implications of this links to biological systems because the DNA helix divides as a single strip to connect to amino acids to replicate as its own mirror image (like the photons), as opposed to a result of a polarity union as is the case in inorganic matter.
  
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Re: Physicist's Take on Bars' 2T Physics - 01-10-2008, 03:12 PM

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annihilation of photons and graviton
Never heard of graviton annihilation. Can you point me to the web links that reported it?


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