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There is no magic but mine - 01-17-2008, 03:38 PM

The topic of the day is "Super Fluids"

the latest in a long line of people talk about something they don't understand!


--OK a rough going over--
Liquid helium is special because it will creep up the surfaces of any container and escape out of ANY opening in the vessel.

--The Facts--
ALL fluids creep. but it's not magic.

All things respond to gravity. But what we for get is that while solids are effected by gross gravitation and only react to things like planetary gravity. fluids and gasses respond to everything.
The most obvious example is the tides. Even though the oceans are on earth the bulge out following the moon enough to raise and lower levels by several feet.

Well the thing to remember is that gravity is not even. as you move 1 unit closer to something it's pull increases by a square of it's distance.

WELL with H you have something so light and small that it's close enough to the container that the containers gravity pull the H more powerfully then the gravity well of the planet.

In effect a super fluid is something small and light enough to consider all solids a flat plain. At least while in immediate contact to the solid.

This is the effect that you see in spunges and your glass of water when it climbs the glass. NOW WAIT YOU SAY I can make dimes float on water. ek gads! oh no you've proven majic. it can't be explained!!!!!! I dare you to.


















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Re: There is no magic but mine - 01-17-2008, 07:24 PM

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The topic of the day is "Super Fluids"

Liquid helium is special because it will creep up the surfaces of any container and escape out of ANY opening in the vessel.

--The Facts--
ALL fluids creep. but it's not magic.

All things respond to gravity. But what we for get is that while solids are effected by gross gravitation and only react to things like planetary gravity. fluids and glasses respond to everything.
The most obvious example is the tides. Even though the oceans are on earth the bulge out following the moon enough to raise and lower levels by several feet.

WELL with H you have something so light and small that it's close enough to the container that the containers gravity pull the H more powerfully then the gravity well of the planet.

In effect a super fluid is something small and light enough to consider all solids a flat plain. At least while in immediate contact to the solid.

Don't tell me you're right

Don't tell me I'm wrong

TELL ME WHY I CAN"T BE RIGHT!!!

TELL ME WHY I CAN"T BE RIGHT!!!
A very good thread and message which shows that Triodit is excellent in reasoning.

I would propose a simple test to see is it true that super liquids really go up the container beyond the adhesion force as in capillary action.
Just repeat the experiment with another container of same material and same inner diameter but with a thinner wall.
The gravitational attraction will thus be reduced while adhesion and other condition remain the same.
Will the critical weight of the super liquid found out to be reduced (the heaviest weight still able to climb up and leave the bottom completely)?

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And I appreciate the shouts of Triodit.
Really, just comment that You are right and I am wrong is useless and incomplete.
A responsible critic should TELL ME WHY I CAN"T BE RIGHT!!!

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Re: There is no magic but mine - 01-17-2008, 10:41 PM

I don't have the means to test it, but I welcome all to try. I really wish I could test it and thank you for the sugestion. I would love to hear what happens. I'll offer a $50 cash prize to any one that test this and can offer domumentation.
  
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