[purveyor of knowledge]

If you had a photon that was circulating around itself it could gravitationally orbit itself at very small scales because at planck scales the photon always appears to be in at least two places at once. You could in this case have a photon which appeared to be at rest by constantly travelling in a tiny circle. That's essentially the higgs boson - light crystalized into matter

The same goes for when the universe begins expanding too fast and all photons are ripped apart. Then all photons will be unto themselves and will appear unto themselves to be at rest. Our entire universe in fact is one photon that appears, unto itself, to be at rest, though it is moving and accelerating in a higher dimensional sense which is causing it to expand and that's why even a photon that appears to be at rest will have mass (the so-called higgs boson). The universe only has a finite lifespan dictated by how it is moving and accelerating in the higher dimensional reference in which it is like one photon. The photon is the most discrete unit of mass. It is a discrete unit of consciousness also.

As a photon the universe is a quantum tunnelling object caught in the dissallowed region - the time within time - between two higher dimensional parallel reference frames. Any object can exceed the speed of light by quantum tunnelling. Any time an object exceeds the speed of light it is mimetic of the creation of the universe. It sets up a time within time in the dissallowed region between where it leaves and where it arrives. This is the essence of teleportation or travelling massive distances in an instant. If you travel beyond the bounds of your visible sphere you will end up in an alternate universe which may resemble the past.

The time within time that any quantum tunnelling object sets up is the loop represented by our universe and it's discourse between creation - big bang - and destruction/reversal - big rip! The universe will rip when the inexorable expansion, which is said not to be in an inertial reference frame, exceeds lightspeed across a planck distance.

The universe is a causal time loop set up because it is possible for humans to send something faster than the speed of light and be masters of the universe like we already have 1/0 times before. In order to send something faster than TSOL an object must be accelerated from one speed, that is lower than TSOL, to another speed, that is greater, in less than one planck second. In this case the force required must be calculated from the initial speed, not the subsequent speed.

ps. please say what you mean by photons are anti gavitonic

[Triodit]

I've been thinking and I'd like to add.

I believe that light as a repelling force explains light speed. I believe that light speed may be the highest speed that the photon can a approach an attractive particle and still bounce off.

We know that light both reflects and is absorbed in a closed space. when you turn the light off it seems to go away instantly, but that is just because you can't perceive fast enough.

I believe that the difference between being absorbed, bouncing or passing threw (transparency) is all to do with the convergence of the electron and the photon.

If the electrons moving away it bounces. If the electron is moving toward it hits at greater then light speed and embeds. possible being denatured in the process. This would also explain where the light in the bulb comes from. When the electrons are moving very fast (hot) they will inevitably strike each other. Assuming the electrons aren't perfect immutable matter. the bits that come off would be the photons.

[Triodit]

If you had a photon that was circulating around itself it could gravitationally orbit itself at very small scales because at planck scales the photon always appears to be in at least two places at once. You could in this case have a photon which appeared to be at rest by constantly travelling in a tiny circle. That's essentially the higgs boson - light crystalized into matter

OK please stop posting. I beg you. inappropriate content removed no theory that I've heard of... and if you haven't guessed I read a few. Or any tests and/or known facts would support photons orbiting... ANYTHING short of a black hole. do you have one in you back pocket? no?

Then no mater WHAT your math say's it's wrongeeeeeeeeeeeee. your scales, you maximums. WRONG. monkeys wrote them. not god.


if you base what you say on something thats false it doesn't matter what the else you come up with. because a wrong times a wrong only makes more wrong.

so if your not gonna remove or append. please shut up. I'll give you the prize. just shut up.


I will offer the reason I nay say string theory. If theres another dimension. It is independent of ours in all ways. string theory wants you to think that this one thing light can touch ours and 13-17 others? Incredubly massive and comming from no where? I say it's wrong because there is a simpler way to explain it.

So when I hear

the time within time - between two higher dimensional parallel reference frames

I ask one thing. wheres the proof. I like to entertain far fetched ideas because it's alway possible. But please. keep this trash out of a serious discussion



Moderator Note: Triodit, do not use inappropriate language, or insult other members on the forums. ~neutralino

[Triodit]

I question above all else because what I'm told doesn't seem right. The part of me that wants to understand, just doesn't buy into whats popular just to fit in. I saw I'm right because the only thing I've heard to say I'm wrong is a quote of numbers that can only be correlated never proven. I say I'm right and your wrong because string theory says you eyes are magical and I say it's 5th grade algebra.

I SAY I'M RIGHT AND YOUR WRONG BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SHOW ME FACTS THAT SAY I CAN'T BE RIGHT

I'M UPPING THE OFFER TO $100.00us
I'M Jermy Davis and I say I'm right and your wrong!!

[purveyor of knowledge]

Originally Posted by Triodit OK please stop posting. I beg you. inappropriate content removed no theory that I've heard of... and if you haven't guessed I read a few. Or any tests and/or known facts would support photons orbiting... ANYTHING short of a black hole. do you have one in you back pocket? no? Then no mater WHAT your math say's it's wrongeeeeeeeeeeeee. your scales, you maximums. WRONG. monkeys wrote them. not god. if you base what you say on something thats false it doesn't matter what the else you come up with. because a wrong times a wrong only makes more wrong. so if your not gonna remove or append. please shut up. I'll give you the prize. just shut up. I will offer the reason I nay say string theory. If theres another dimension. It is independent of ours in all ways. string theory wants you to think that this one thing light can touch ours and 13-17 others? Incredubly massive and comming from no where? I say it's wrong because there is a simpler way to explain it. So when I hear I ask one thing. wheres the proof. I like to entertain far fetched ideas because it's alway possible. But please. keep this trash out of a serious discussion

I am someone who question just like you Triodit. The main difference though is that I do have technology that is an outgrowth of my theory and my technology is better than yours.

The proof that our universe is a quantum tunneling object is the big bang. it's not string theory you goof, it's a correlation between quantum mechanics and general relativity. Our entire universe is like a quantum mechanical object. That is why the big bang suddenly happened. So you are right that photon is a discrete unit of mass. The big bang sets up the allegorical "time within time" that is an eternity within an instant, occurring between when a quantum tunnelling object dissappears and reappears a fraction of a second later. That is the duration of our universe. But in theory it constantly reverses and cycles and thus it plays forth in all it's iterations. The reason the cmb has its irregularities is because they were left over from the state of our quantum tunnelling object before it left where it came from. So you see every time you send something faster than the speed of light you are mimicking the creation of the universe. It's demonstrated for example...

The reason the particle physicists are toying around with particle accelerators is because everytime they smash them particles together some of the fragments exceed the speed of light for a momentary amount of distance. That's how their mimicking the creation of the universe - by sending tiny particles faster than TSOL for brief distances. But their technologies sucks and is overpriced and is what I call the sledgehammer method. They have to use grace and do it with ease and then great power will be at their fingertips!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The only large object built by man in recorded history that has exceeded the speed of light was the Hamel Device. You may think it is not true but if so you may not know the truth, that is stranger than fiction. Also one's technology can create weather and do anything at will. One can even create tornadoes now too and you can see the pictures of it if you look around this forum.

If you think about it a LOT you might just figure everything out. Think about everything Triodit. Never stop. Then you can help us with the mission of world peace. You can help us always. But don't talk shit to me pal because I got tech to back me up. I got the sorcerer's stone too so there's nothing anybody can do but rejoice, or run for cover!

[nomad]

Purveyer of Knowledge, I would respectfully ask that you show an example of the physical processes and events you describe are consistent with a solution of Einstein's field equations or unified quantum-gravity field theory. If they are not consistent with presently established theories, you should present a proof of a new theory that your ideas are based upon.

In the meantime I think dreaming, imagining and putting speculative ideas on the table make for interesting discourse--and might even have potential for leading to new insights. It wasn't clear to me whether you felt you had established some new conepts or whether you just wanted to put some interesting speculation on the table.

[Triodit]

Ok...

N man.... I hate you. why. you post a sig that ask why, I answer it. but you still post *** like... oh yes I said ***** and THAT you can yell at me for. but so you talk about 4D but you still don't get that time is not.. period. you hold up Einstine. but you thing he was just talking crazey when her said that relitivity is an illsion. NO NO NO NO NO NON ONONONONON you hypocrit he was right. but he did miss energy thats an illusion to. ALL OF IT




In all that is there is Matter Feilds and Motion. Quote that Me said it now. and it's right.






I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT LIGHT CANT BE AFFECTED BUY GRAVITY. it is a thing that make the electron look big that pushes away from things that pull.

[neutralino]

Originally Posted by Triodit Ok... N man.... I hate you. why. you post a sig that ask why, I answer it. but you still post *** like... oh yes I said ***** and THAT you can yell at me for. but so you talk about 4D but you still don't get that time is not.. period. you hold up Einstine. but you thing he was just talking crazey when her said that relitivity is an illsion. NO NO NO NO NO NON ONONONONON you hypocrit he was right. but he did miss energy thats an illusion to. ALL OF IT In all that is there is Matter Feilds and Motion. Quote that Me said it now. and it's right. I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT LIGHT CANT BE AFFECTED BUY GRAVITY. it is a thing that make the electron look big that pushes away from things that pull.

Triodit,

I give you two weeks to calm down, but then you come back the minute the door opens again, and you come throwing insults. I thought it was right to give you a second chance, but since I'm not prepared to deal with editing your posts, and reading your abusive PMs , I'm afraid you've lost your chance. Feel free to take it up with Robert if you feel hard done by.

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