Eoe - Explanation of everything - 'Memory'

[Rufus]

~ Eoe ~ Explanation of everything ~
~ Memory ~ ID 2474 May 18, 2008

Thoughts on thought and memory in recent times have been based on the theoretical approach that some material functions of brain matter interact with energy to cause thinking and store memory. Unfortunately for these theorists there is no explanation of how matter was created of nothing or even a postulation of how it could be. Scientists usually put religious explanations aside because they are based on individual beliefs and not anything that could be considered fact or absolute. Our learning institutions teach that we evolved into thinking beings from a primordial sea that spontaneously created life and that this condition could well be taking place within our universe in a multitude of places and at a multitude of stages. This idea is so ingrained that it is taught universally as though it were proven and not just another theory among millions. The idea cannot stand up to any scrutiny at all, simply because it places the responsibility of the creation of these worlds on another equally ridiculous theory that is also universally taught, lately, as the cyclical expansion and compression of all the matter of the universe over huge expanses of time. During much of this time the theory states that thinking beings do not exist and during portions of this time scientific laws as we know them are suspended and processes beyond science take place. There is no account for how the matter of this theory came to be, nor how the space it occupies came to be, nor how it could be either limitless or finite. The theory is taught ignoring these prerequisites as if such a huge passage of time and such a massive subject such as a universe makes them unnecessary. The word; universe means everything and discounts any 'beyond' and the idea of multiple universes confounds itself by attempting to conceptualize everything times a factor. There can only be one 'everything'.


We do exist. We think, therefore we are. Cogito ergo Sum as stated in Latin and atributed to Rene Descartes. These statements are not conjectural or theoretical or ideas of a fertile mind created of matter. The matter of the mind is theoretical but the mind itself is not. Either thought creates memory that is stored in a material mind or brain or it does not. Since the material part of this pursuit is conjectural as is the material of the reciprocating universe and since there is not even one single coherent theory of how material could be created from nothing, it must be assumed that no material could or would ever exist. Humans can create the thought of matter in the form of a world of tactility, taste and smell. They can think they hear matter moving against itself and see it coursing through reality but there is no proof that it exists in and of itself. Although the thought of nothingness being the starting point of creation may seem like a perfectly reasonable and practical idea it is nonetheless just an idea. There is no proof of creation from nothing nor proof that a condition of nothingness could even exist. The words themselves; 'nothingness could exist' is a contradiction since nothingness would obviate even the condition of nothingness itself. You could try to say that "non-existence would not even have a place to non-exist" or some such other expression but such thoughts are impossible to communicate, make no sense and are patently oxymoronic. Oddly enough we can even conceptualize the impossible or at least we get the feeling that we can.


Our thought process allows for a number of things that are difficult or impossible to explain when closely examined. The universe has this fuzzy edge that we all seem to conceptualize yet even the Hubble telescope saw no such thing. In our sci-fi videos we see the universe as a thing swirling about similar to a galaxy only ?illions of times larger. The edge of the screen conveniently provides an edge to the concept and we generally do not try to think beyond that but conceptually we would automatically add other universes and continue to ignor the edge of reality as we are unable to conceive it. This thought is similar to the nothingness idea. It cannot be expressed and has no real theory at all, it just seems to have one and the seeming fact that it is so far beyond our physical or mental grasp that we need not venture mentally to any edge or limit of the concept, suffices. All of our theories are like that though we readily accept them and continue to dedicate our lives to their discovery and completion. If you take any theory that you are working on and try to express it in any language without using question marks like infinity symbols or the like, you will find it impossible to put into words. Scientists tend to use mathematics to prove their theories but numbers only have meaning and relationship to a material world and also require the use of unknowns. Since there is only a theoretical material world and unknowns are not proof of anything, math is of little use in understanding reality and really nothing more than a toy to the true philosopher.


Most scientists are involved in the study of what could be referred to as 'real world' problems such as the development of more efficient auto engines or the cure for specific diseases and the use of material objects to solve these problems certainly seems the obvious route to take. Mathematics in both these cases is absolutely essential and questioning whether the engine or the disease really exists is almost a moot point. There is such a strong influence that matter is real, in these contexts, especially if you have one of these diseases or have a motor drop on you and feel the weight of reality crushing your body, that few could truly question if matter actually exists. This has always been the major obstacle in the search for truth in this area. Reality seems so real, yet it must be either one way or the other. Trying to study memory and thought without knowing if it involves a material system or not is utterly essential and matter is the crux of the issue. It either exists or it does not and there is no middle ground. Since we have been so universally bound to 'real' matter for so many years, most of our study has been based on the premise that the existence of matter will eventually be proved and many of us mistakenly believe it already has.


The mind, thought processes, the brain and memory are problems of consideration that do not seem to rely so heavily on a material substance. The brain itself is the only one of the above that can be located and still appears to exist even when the other three are apparently gone such as in a deceased creature. The brain is considered to be the material container of the other three and so universally accepted as such that it sounds foolish to even mention it but again there is no proof that this is the case. Experiments with brain waves and brain stimulus on humans would seem to be so definitive a proof that the matter of the brain houses thought, memory and the mind, that bringing it into question is ridiculous but again, it's all theoretical. The theory is that the physical brain is a storage and processing device that uses electrical impulses to transmit memory about and somehow construct thought. This is exposed as being fraudulent since it cannot be readily expressed in language without using unknowns to complete the description. The actual manifestation of thought has no apparency whatsoever unless you happen to be experiencing it yourself and then it encompasses absolutely everything. Solipsism states that you can think but when you look at others you cannot tell if they can do the same or if their apparent actions and confirmation that they do think is just a manifestation of your own thought. We can never directly know another's mental ability. As a doctor we may place sensors on the patients head and look at our oscilloscope and see brain waves being detected but solipsism states that we could just be imagining this. It is considered by mainstream philosophy to be a skeptical viewpoint but that is a matter of popular opinion. One's own thoughts and experience can easily be proven and is totally irrefutable but anything beyond that cannot be proven in any way that we are now aware of. So proof of matter cannot be supplied so it's a waste of time considering it or even waiting for it to happen. You may wish to digest that a minute. I have just shown that matter does not exist nor can it be proven that it does nor could we know of any way it could be proven on account of the very design of perception itself. These statements are absolute and end the discussion of the existence of matter. If you cannot accept them then go over the points carefully and research everything independently.


Consider the following and try them:


No theoretical statement concerning matter can be expressed in language so it is fully comprehensible.


No theoretical statement can describe a material existence within a universe that makes any sense as to origin or the space it occupies.


No theoretical statement can describe the function of thought or memory either in a material sense or otherwise.

Namron Soar

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[mkirkpatrick]

Many thanks Rufus,I am reading through your excellent thread starter again! Causing me
to use my brain!



warm regards michael.