Tom Campbell's My BIG TOE

[2banon]

Our seemingly intricate sensing systems don't really do anything, just being there for fake show?

Who pulled this hoax on us? What a humorous guy!

Our sensory modalities do exactly what they evolved to do, they receive and then interpret sensory data (electromagnetic mostly) from which our unique Reality is made. That this is all virtual doesn't make it any less awesome, it makes it more awesome to me.
Love
Bette

[2banon]

Thanks for the "Love, Bette". Can you be my new girlfriend?

You're welcome Austin. Thank you too, but I don't do "girlfriend." Friends is groovy though, wanna?
Love
Bette

[melanie]

There's no consciousness floating around out there; it is a brain process, and comes last, not first.

Coming last or first is unknowable, like the chicken and the egg analogy.

Or we could say both last and first came first.

If there's no consciousness floating around ''out there'' then there can be no trees, no plants, no landscape, no people, animals, etc etc ....

Why? ... because everything seen is Consciousness, without which nothing is seen. (You) do not see the ''things'' - consciousness does.

Everything seen is floating in a conceptual sense. Just like dream substance, no different.

Mind maps and the persona arise concurrently. They are the same phenomenon.
The personal identity is not other than that which it believes. It is the belief that it has an accurate picture of reality.

And when it tries to isolate itself and get a look at what's really happening
it would be like a person in your dreams at night attempting to scale the walls of its arena and actually see who is dreaming it into existence.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Our sensory modalities do exactly what they evolved to do, they receive and then interpret sensory data (electromagnetic mostly) from which our unique Reality is made. That this is all virtual doesn't make it any less awesome, it makes it more awesome to me.
Love
Bette

OK, I'll take it, then, that the senses and the brains systems behind take in real waves and paint a useful face upon, which then go through a brief process to surface on the higher parts of the brain referred to as mind and consciousness (being last). So, then, it wouldn't at all be like there is only consciousness, it floating around (as the first), as the only physical disposition underlying reality.

[austintorn@aol.com]

You're welcome Austin. Thank you too, but I don't do "girlfriend." Friends is groovy though, wanna?
Love
Bette

Sure, friend, since Lloyd is interested in you, and my actual cyberspace girlfriend, Melanie, has just appeared here. (I'm in trouble now.)

Not that Consciousness would care about more love relationships, but that it would indeed promote them. (You're not going real on me, now are you, Bette?)

[austintorn@aol.com]

REALITY FABRICATION

Take a pencil and feel a texture with it
You seem to feel it at the pencil’s tip;
But, you have no sense organs way out there;
So—the brain fabricates reality!

All you see is the inside of your head,
A model. You don’t believe it, you say;
Well, it’s the same model seen in your dreams,
With your eyes closed and you in darkness, too!

All we see are the insides of our heads—
A wide-awake dream. What’s really out there,
I suppose, are waves and fields, which our minds
Sense in representative ways, like red.

Not only is seeing inside the head,
But also the hard-soft-texture of touch,
The scents of molecule shapes, and the sounds
Of air waves, again, as in a night-dream.

Absolute Reality is scentless,
Colorless, and quite soundless; however,
Sense organs detect waves and vibrations—
Such—all reality’s fabricated.

A virtual reality can be
Enjoyed and directed in lucid dreams,
Where one can do anything at all, without
Injury or penalty, with real feel!

A simple four-way lookup senses taste
By degrees of bitter, salt, sweet, and sour,
And, likewise done, the three-way colors,
And ten-plus-way facial recognition.

Brains have parallel processors for form,
Texture, color, and depth—and a quick one
For motion detection—which all combine
Later as what we see in unity.

Consciousness is referred back in time a bit,
Like the tape-delay of a live TV show,
To hide the brain’s processing time from us,
Making things seem to happen instantly.

The now is ten-forty-fourths of a second long,
The frequency at which events appear over
The horizon of consciousness, the succession
Of which gives us the illusion of time passing.

A hormoned hunger pang, midway between a
Pain and a withdrawal symptom, makes us
Run, run, run to eat—well, that’s OK, until
Another hormone signals satiation.

Bonding hormones bring us closer together,
Pheromoaning into lust, love, and relationships
Spurred onward by love-made endorphins—and, so,
Yes, there can be chemistry between people.

People are but machines going the way
Of their brains, genetics, and chemicals
But, you, learning these secrets, rise above,
For, at least, you know you’re a machine.

[melanie]

OK, I'll take it, then, that the senses and the brains systems behind take in real waves and paint a useful face upon, which then go through a brief process to surface on the higher parts of the brain referred to as mind and consciousness (being last). So, then, it wouldn't at all be like there is only consciousness, it floating around (as the first), as the only physical disposition underlying reality.

Even though it is ''self evident'' "as plain as the nose on your face"
that every apparent 'body' including the body called 'me' and assumed 'mind' - no-one has never seen a 'mind' - it is perceived in/by consciousness alone.

There is no 'person' experiencing consciousness... apparently or otherwise.

Consciousness which cannot be seen, felt, smelled, heard, tasted or known ...
is the only one seeming to experience life AS seeing, feeling, smelling, hearing, tasting, knowing.

Consciousness is the 'experiencer' and the 'experience'.

Everything is appearance right now, these words are manifested directly in the seeing that is one with consciousness.
This seeing is not in any 'body' every 'body' and every 'thing' else appears in this seeing.
And in the moment the object is no longer in view, it is gone... as an image in a dream is gone.

All apparent people seem to live in a world.
But this world is no more than a dream given apparent substance through sensation... all 'IN' Consciousness.

The senses are not derived from or a function of any 'body'
They, together with the knowing, are consciousness.
They 'exist' in no 'thing'
They have no source.
Consciousness is its own source.

This is deep stuff, no mind is ready to hear this stuff.... it can only be known by the one who knows. I wonder 'who' that is ??

So no gaps Austin. No gaps.

Physical matter IS the space its IN.

[melanie]

Closing the Gap Between the Illusory Self-Image and the Real Essential Self.

Close the gap between who you think you are and who you actually are
Who I think I am is nothing compared to who I truly am in essence.
The mind, through thinking, blocks us from experiencing who we truly are.

'Mind' cannot look at itself. Mind does not create the dream.

It is the film-the mechanism-through which the Light passes.
It is the field of dreams.

It is the transducer through which the undifferentiated creation is converted into the secondary conceptual dream world
in which the resulting illusory entity wanders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBV-...Fw/default.jpg


The Greek philosopher Heraclitus of Ephesus who lived around 540 and 480 BCE said that there is nothing permanent but change.
He also said that you cannot step into the same river twice. The flowing river becomes a symbol of constant change.

The Whole of Creation is ever born *NOW* brand new in every now, and now is all there is.

[WHY 137?]

I was banned for about a month over at MBT, the My Big Toe forum, by the head moderator, Ted Vollers, who essentially STALKED me on the two threads I participated on, and then had the gall to give me a holiday (shut me up) for posting a thread in a sub forum entitled Wud I Say? (The place for free form ad lib communication.)

Really I kid you not...
And the original thread that I initiated then got moved from the Philosophy/Metaphysics forum to the Wud I Say? (The place for free form ad lib communication.)

Ted Vollers is the resident in - 'House' MODerator at MBT
But beneath the veneer of fair and impartial, I found a real life MBT MoBsTer incognito, in a position of POWER.

This was very obvious to me because he was in my face the moment I first arrived on that forum, simply to share my views (that is what forums are for) .... and simply by suggesting his guru Thomas Campbell along with his theory called 'My Big Toe', SHARE I said.
SHARE what?

The MBT forum is apparently on a quest to get their guru on the TED TV* stage, BUT I suggested Thomas might best share the limelight with others.
*TED TV is NOT to be confused with the MOD MoBsTer Ted Vollers.

The more the better sharing the world stage trumpeting a TOE, ALL recognizing fundamental TRUTHs, the more the better, is my logic.

And any potential theory of everything must be able to 'accommodate' ALL beliefs because after all, IT IS a theory of everything.

Why I got banned (given time off?) for daring to ask the question WHY 137? and promote discussion on that forum is kinda bizarre.
But it was revealing.
It says so much about this brand new CULT of belief.

MBT is just another dogma folks, if it fails the acid test.
And it did.
It fails to accommodate in earnest, other beliefs that might 'appear' to be 'different'.

http://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=5

Other 'competing' theories are NOT welcome on the MBT website site.
Be forewarned...

But please note that here on TOEQUEST we have "love Bette" spreading her MBT dogma...
Too bad MBT feels threatened and chases all discussion of a common ground away.
As they have done with me.

Today I received this e-mail from 'Teddy the MoBsTer' inviting me to come back if I wish, and to try assimilate / join in with the MBT MOB mantra chanting their dogma.

Ted's ignorance of reality has manifested into an obvious arrogance.

Raphael,

Your password has been reset to the string of digits XXXXXXX. You may
return at any time and change this to your own choice. Please do not do so
as a monomaniac about your special concerns. We have no answer to your
questions about these subjects and no one has been concerned about them as
you might have noticed if you visited. We do not share your special
passion. You are welcome back as a regular member but please do not
attempt to create a big stir about your personal passions.

Ted

It appears that I must also agree to cease and desist from being ME?

Remember the thread I posted was in a sub-forum called Wud I Say? (The place for free form ad lib communication.)

Teddy is without a doubt a ego manic, a MoBsTer.
what else can we conclude.

Beware of the CULT called MBT.

namaste

[robstoe]

I went to your links cause I wanted to read what makes a cult but none of the links go to your posts.