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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by neutralino View Post
    Can you stop saying that please? Let's have a quick summary of how science works.

    I am not proposing some new theory, and so I do not need to defend anything. You, however, are proposing a new theory, and so you have to provide evidence for it. Earlier in the thread, I was lenient, accepting a popular science book as evidence (which, like I said, I will read on Monday), but now you clearly seem to be talking nonsense, so would you be so kind as to provide published, peer-reviewed papers to back up your claims, please. THAT is the way that science works.
    Perhaps your liberal reading agenda may accomodate the second half ('Contributions to Science') of Ideas & Opinions, by Albert Einstein (Who wrote his doctoral, as an amateur).

    You don't seem to put much stock in the value of the amateur contributions to science, off and on the internet. Apparently you're here to lecture the futility of any efforts that aren't admitted into your council of rubber stampers. Although there's not much at all in your forum profile, you've clearly identified yourself as one who would appear here to flaunt your superiority and membership in the innercircle, and to recruit people to wait in line, papers in hand, outside your elitist inflated institution(s).

    Meanwhile, Mr. or Ms. neutralino, there is a small press, and bookstores through which publications are being distributed. And relative to the (qualified) music being made on the internet, your institutional sanctuary stands unable to carry a tune in an exemplary, big bangologist tailored, string theory and black hole embroidered bucket. Clearly your formerly filibustering information embargo has been and is being dramatically compromised. Wanted you may be, but you are no longer needed as you previously monopolized. Your metaphorical Appian Way is no longer what it used to be, regarding itinerant means by which Rome may be reached.

    Your science doesn't work the way it used to... There are increasing numbers of avenues over which you and yours have no control.



    "There is nothing new about Newton's Classical Mechanical gravity or Einstein's 4th dimension of time, except preeminent non-mathematical proof that they are one and the same. The New Gravity Is The 4th SpaceTime Dimension."
    - K.B. Robertson

    "It's still the same old universe, but gravity is the 4th dimension of that same old universe. I'm grateful for the indelible change in my perception of it. It may be impossible to overstate the importance of this book. The one, two three and X Y Z of comprehensive infinity."
    - Mark Stephen Halfon, Ph.D., Philosophy (Chair,*Nassau Community Colllege), Brooklyn, New York. (1977 - *2007)




    "An ambitious new treatise on the otherwise seasoned subjects of Space & Time. We are not qualified to evaluate it, but are pleased to see it in this ('comic book') format."
    - THE WHOLE EARTH CATALOGUE, Portola Institute, 1970 - ‘71


    "An unprecedented and awesomely credible non-mathematical theory which matter-of-factly proves that gravity is the 4th dimension of time, then forthwith discovers the previously unrecognized - therefore unidentified - 5th & 6th dimensions of electricity and magnetism."
    - Dr. John Shaw, Chemistry Prof. 1971, University Of California @ Berkeley


    "Gravity Is The 4th Dimension' - A documentary scientific 'Future Shock'. Major conceptual breakthrough. It must be disqualified or formally acknowledged at the foundations of modern theoretical physics; there is no middle ground. So advanced it's simple."
    - Mark Vukovic, Electronics Tech, U.S.N. USS Shasta (AE-33), San Francisco, CA.


    "This book has clearly made a formerly mystified theoretical physics truly comprehensible to anyone with high school reading skills and 'street people' in general. Beyond its overt revolutionary scientific import, the social implications are also profound. Bound to surprise and constructively inf luence an enormous number of people for a very long time. Ignoring or denying it won't make it go away. Now I know what E=MC squared means."
    - Don Donahue, original printer and publisher of ZAP Comix, San Francisco


    "Gravity really is the 4th dimension, and levity and mirth use to be the 5th and 6th dimensions, until K.B. Robertson found them to be electricity & magnetism, respectively.
    - Herb Caen, The San Francisco CHRONICLE


    "Not without levity, the sharp shooting author expertly documents his academic and historical subject; then - suddenly - the reader is experientially surrounded by it. There is no intellectual escape from the 4-D space-time continuum anymore, in or out of an ignorant or uninterested yawn. The very act of reading these words is directly and physically sustained by it. Observing various responses of others, in the early stages of recognizing it, is a recreation in itself. The documentary is scientifically irreproachable, the informal narrative is a social liberation. The inveterate elements don't like it already."
    - Sallie Taylor Melinda Bryan, 1979


    "Academic L.S.D. in a Stockholm punchbowl, and everybody's invited. Ready or not there is no way out of this but through it. A scientific Odyssey. The most remarkable fact about 'The New Gravity' is that it was not discovered and written much earlier."
    - Gregory Nageotte, Ph.D. Philosophy, Santa Barbara, CA. 1979


    "I am unable to disqualify it."
    - Dr. Richard Feynman, 1966, Professor Emeritus, Cal Tech


    "It reads a hell of a lot more easily and comprehensively than anything else of the subject of Einstein's Relativity. Reads at least as easily as the brass tacks section of any good sci. fi. mag., and it is not science fiction."
    - Travis T. Hipp, KSAN radio, San Francisco, 1970


    "The old saw, 'There is no gravity, the earth sucks', is no longer tractable. The New Gravity (Is The 4th Dimension) is the old gravity, in a pushy new paradigm of Einstein's 4 dimensional space-time continuum. Guaranteed to illuminate even the most diffident mind. It will chancelessly see you and raise you indefinitely. The New Gravity will never let you down."

    - Arthur Kretchmer, 1979, Article Editor, PLAYBOY Magazine

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie
    (A rough draft - work in progress - condensation of a sold out, 627 page, small press book.)
    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by purveyor of knowledge View Post
    Just wanted to let everybody know one is a genius and yes, does very strange things, that you would be glad not to be although probably already are. ANd he will tell you EXACTLY why the universe is created, I mean expanding, but you better close your ears because here it comes and you won't want to believe it OR publish in a peer reviewed journal because it's downright heresy. So listen up people because here it comes and it only comes once.

    The universe is expanding because, believe it or not, energy is being created everyday. That's right, energy is being created every day and has been since it ever started. That is because energy has to be created everyday or else time will stop, or worse yet, start going backwards.

    THat's right, and the universe can even reverse when it starts to expand too fast. LIke when one planck distance expands at greater than the speed of light. Do you get it now? It's because of quantum mechanics and general relativity.

    ANd it's the expansion of the universe that causes all the little electrons to have their charge constantly and it's the expansion of the universe that causes all the little magnets to constantly draw their force. And so the force of the magnet is coming from the expansion of the universe and you can use this force to do amazing things that you won't want to publish in a peer reviewed journal.

    And so as the universe appears to expand it would appear that all the photons are SHRINKING! And that is because inside every photon is a negative copy of our universe. So as our universe appears to expand the negative universe, which is our photons, appears to contract. SO one becomes the cause of the other and visa versa.

    But really it all started for ONE VERY SIMPLE REASON. BECAUSE IT IS POSSIBLE TO SEND SOMETHING FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT> AND BECAUSE WE ARE MEANT TO FIND OUT THAT POSSIBILITY< BECAUSE IT IS OUR DESTINY AND HAS ALREADY HAPPENED

    I rest my case

    purveyor of knowledge

    Far out POK ... I may not exactly agree with everything you said here but I really love the way you said it .... you should be up there with the Areopagites bro ....

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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    Your metaphorical Appian Way is no longer what it used to be, regarding itinerant means by which Rome may be reached.
    Rascal .... your a rascal ! Do you attribute this to cleverness (and its clever regardless) ... or to the fact that you once roamed on the same grounds as the tribes of Illyrian ...

    cool bananas ... greg
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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    Perhaps your liberal reading agenda may accomodate the second half ('Contributions to Science') of Ideas & Opinions, by Albert Einstein (Who wrote his doctoral, as an amateur).
    It's quite funny how every amateur always mentions the fact that Einstein was an amateur, and compares themself to him. However, perhaps I should point out that Einstein had graduated from university, taught maths and physics for a few years, and then went to his job in the patent office.

    There is, however, a major difference between Einstein and people like yourself. After Einstein had written his papers, he wanted to let the scientific world know about them, and thus published them in, surprise, surprise, a peer-reviewed journal (namely Annalen der Physik). However, you don't seem to want to let scientists review your work, but yet continue to claim that you are a published author (note you've never given me a link to you "work" or shown me an amazon entry). There can only be one reason for this: you know yourself that your work will not stand up to the scrutiny of the scientific world, and could not cope for your life's work to be shown to be wrong out in the public. You continue to quote people who aren't mathematicians or physicists, as if they have had some profound insight which they have shared with the world through some back-street publisher.

    Like I've said many times before, the real world is not like that. If you want your work to be recognised, publish it properly, but don't refuse to do so and then complain about your work being overlooked by the "rubber stamping" academic industry.
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    If you haven't found something strange during the day, it hasn't been much of a day - John A. Wheeler.

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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by neutralino View Post
    It's quite funny how every amateur always mentions the fact that Einstein was an amateur, and compares themself to him. However, perhaps I should point out that Einstein had graduated from university, taught maths and physics for a few years, and then went to his job in the patent office.

    There is, however, a major difference between Einstein and people like yourself. After Einstein had written his papers, he wanted to let the scientific world know about them, and thus published them in, surprise, surprise, a peer-reviewed journal (namely Annalen der Physik. However, you don't seem to want to let scientists review your work, but yet continue to claim that you are a published author (note you've never given me a link to you "work" or shown me an amazon entry). There can only be one reason for this: you know yourself that your work will not stand up to the scrutiny of the scientific world, and could not cope for your life's work to be shown to be wrong out in the public. You continue to quote people who aren't mathematicians or physicists, as if they have had some profound insight which they have shared with the world through some back-street publisher.

    Like I've said many times before, the real world is not like that. If you want your work to be recognised, publish it properly, but don't refuse to do so, and then complain about your work being overlooked by the "rubber stamping" academic industry.
    "...never given me a link to your work". (Chortle)

    Einstein was a teacher. He was also an amateur scientist.

    Compare myself to Einstein?
    My link is all over this forum and it's
    http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie

    Scientific journals receive thousands of manuscripts from unknown authors. Yer lucky if the submitted copy is returned let alone read. You may live at the whim of institutional editors, whereas Truly Yours guaranteed his publication by doing it himself.

    I am a published author. The first of ten small press editions was published in Naples, Italy, 1959, predicted that the universe is accelerating, and sold out in three languages. Nine other small press editions were sold out in 41 California bookstores, and distributed internationally via The Portola Institute's Whole Earth Catalogue in 1970. I own hundreds of letters of commedation and congratulation from readers all over the world.

    the 4th edition was slipped under the office doors of every physicist in the Birge Bldg in Berkeley - the communication was challenged on innumerable occasions without disqualification. My work has always stood up to, and overrun, scientific scrutiny.

    'Publish it properly' - why don't you just take care of that yourself, persuade me to plead with you or someone like you to publish my work. The only reason its been revealed to the public is because I saw to it that it was published.

    IN 1966, Dr. Richard Feynman skipped three classes trying to disqualify my work and conceded that he couldn't do so. Peter & Donna Tyner and Vern & Miriam Reed, of Los Angeles are witness to this fact, along with Feynman's administrative staff at that time.

    Never mind the peer review journals, why don't you disqualify my work? Contrary to your statement that I couldn't cope with being disqualified, you'd be doing me a favor. Even in a disqualified status my work has repeatedly been described as an excellent record of the evolution and problems of physics from Copernicus to the present.

    "There can only be one reason for this: you know yourself that your work will not stand up to the scrutiny of the scientific world, and could not cope for your life's work to be shown to be wrong out in the public. You continue to quote people who aren't mathematicians or physicists, as if they have had some profound insight which they have shared with the world through some back-street"

    For not having read my work and brandishing that fact, you certainly snort a lot of word spinach.
    'The scientific world'? What are you talking about - your Scout Den Master.

    Apparently you're still suffering from the hangover you incurred in discovering that the author of the big bang 'theory' - Lemaitre - categorically stated that it started with an explosion, after you bet your 'peer reviewed' credibility that the big bang has nothing to do with any kind of explosion. Still bitterly chewing on that rhubarb, while eating the small press series of books you transparently covet so vigorously.

    The New Gravity - the real world - will never let your conspicuously proactive envy down.

    - RP
    (George Berkeley, 1710) ... lay the beginning in a distinct explication of what is meant by thing, reality, existence: for in vain shall we dispute concerning the real existence of things, or pretend to any knowledge thereof, so long as we have not fixed the meaning of those words.

    "All things come out of the one and the one out of all things." - Heraclitus
    "Reality is an illusion - albeit a persistent one." - Einstein
    "Particles give me a headache." - Ibid

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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by RascalPuff View Post
    "...never given me a link to your work". (Chortle)

    Einstein was a teacher. He was also an amateur scientist.

    Compare myself to Einstein?
    My link is all over this forum and it's
    http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie
    You keep giving this website link, but the website is incredibly difficult to read. If you have published a book, then surely you have it in .pdf somewhere? At least you could provide the full reference for the book.


    'The scientific world'? What are you talking about - your Scout Den Master.
    I don't quite understand what you mean by this, but from the tone and attitude in your post, it is quite apparent that this is meant to be an insult. If that's all you can do; throw insults around; then this conversation is over.

    I have no idea why so many people here get so defensive and start insulting me when I simply try and point out the way things work in the scientific world. Anyway, don't bother replying to this message, since I will not respond to you anymore.
    ~neutralino

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    Re: Cosmic Expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by neutralino View Post
    Anyway, don't bother replying to this message, since I will not respond to you anymore.
    Neutralino;
    Excellent choice again.
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