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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    (I put a post just before this on the previous page where it might now get missed)

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    So Greg and Neutralino;

    What again is your theory as to how the universe expanded from Planck length
    Are you asking for a theory based on logic, or irrational belief. In which case I have already told you, Superman did it. Duh

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    No matter how incredible it sounds, it seems that the church's ideas of a moment of creation were right from the beginning."

    - STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE,
    Prof ... People who quote this always mis-understand it. People who understand it have no reason to quote it, its of no moment.

    Try a little more internet research, my prayers are with you.

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    (I put a post just before this on the previous page where it might now get missed)
    Yes .... I just lost a post and regained it moments later, a bit like he who loses his soul regains it thru faith alone ... there appears to be some mysterious superpower at work here .... rotflmao.

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Hi Greg;

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    So Greg and Neutralino;

    What again is your theory as to how the universe expanded from Planck length

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Are you asking for a theory based on logic, or irrational belief. In which case I have already told you, Superman did it. Duh

    I was asking for YOUR theory Greg. Your Superman theory sounds a lot like my God theory. ( Superman however comes with a definition that doesn't include CREATOR )

    Best,

    Pat

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com View Post
    (I put a post just before this on the previous page where it might now get missed)
    It's a very good and thoughtful post Austin. BRAVO!!

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Hi Greg;


    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    No matter how incredible it sounds, it seems that the church's ideas of a moment of creation were right from the beginning."

    - STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE,
    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Prof ... People who quote this always mis-understand it. People who understand it have no reason to quote it, its of no moment.

    Try a little more internet research, my prayers are with you.

    from Krypton ... greg


    The quote came from RP's first post to this thread and therefore I thought it was the topic of discussion. And I believe a good topic at that.

    I know RP is a steady stater himself, which is of course OK, however the best evidence points to a created universe.

    I have no idea what Dr. Hawkings meant other than what he states.

    Best,

    Pat

    P.S. Thanks for the prayers. I accept all prayers from theists, atheists, agnostics, etc.
    I view them as good thoughts.
    Last edited by Graybeard; 02-26-2009 at 08:16 PM. Reason: Fixed quote

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    I was asking for YOUR theory Greg. Your Superman theory sounds a lot like my God theory. ( Superman however comes with a definition that doesn't include CREATOR )
    Prof ... When we're using irrational logic, Superman can be a creator. Also I think you know my 'theories'. We've both been on the forum a long time ....

    Sorry for stirring you Prof ... best

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Quote Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
    Prof ... When we're using irrational logic, Superman can be a creator. Also I think you know my 'theories'. We've both been on the forum a long time ....

    Sorry for stirring you Prof ... best

    cool bananas ... greg
    Hi Greg;

    I need to be stirred and shaken at times. I'm sorry but I don't remember your theory explaining the " Big Bang " and ultimate expansion. Are you a believer in a steady state model of the universe? I know you strongly believe in evolution.

    Best,

    Pat

    P.S. It's not irrational logic, even Aristotle had to introduce a " Prime Mover " to kick start this universe. ( Remember he started the study of logic ) Aristotlean Logic

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    Re: A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

    Perhaps it would be more palatable if I were to use the term some creative or expansive force was at work at the beginning of the universe. Maybe the word God brings into play to many images and definitions.

    However, that force should be explored and not swept under the rug as the Pope suggested, as not being proper study. ( sounds like some of our members )

    Best to all,

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