A Little Tiny Point - Stephen Hawking's Universe

[RascalPuff]

"Our sun at the center of our solar system is just one star among billions in the Milky Way galaxy. Around us are billions and billions of galaxies. Where could this entire universe come from? Was it always this way or did the universe have a beginning? The church has always believed that the universe came from a moment of creation - a time when the universe began. Meanwhile, scientists developed two theories: the Big Bang and the Steady State theories. In this century, science has come to understand how the universe began from a tiny point, fifteen billion years ago. No matter how incredible it sounds, it seems that the church's ideas of a moment of creation were right from the beginning."

- STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE,
Volume I, Program II: The Big Bang
Copyright 1997

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[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks rascal,Stephens a thoughtful man,very profound,a tiny point indeed,for me it is
about breathing out cycle=manifested universe,breathing in cycle=unmanifested universe.

Simple,short and sweet,and of course,the way it IS?



regards michael.

[RascalPuff]

The Evasive Psychology of Big Bangology, continued:

Meanwhile, the Big Bang advocates and apologists, have hewn out rationalizations for why there is presently no common center from which 'the expanding universe', is expanding... ('The center is everywhere'.)

Under these convuluted circumstances, a return to the Steady State universe seems imminent.

(Increasingly dense background radiation is the signature of any expanding universe scenario.)

May readers draw their own conclusions...

Best regards,
- RP

[cosvis]

Hi RP,

I agree with you that the Church holds that there was a beginning of time, a point where matter and therefore time began but the Church does not necessarily hold that the universe began with a Big Bang. The Big Bang is a scientific theory, not a doctrine of the Church. I think the Church is open to different scientific theories. I rather hold that at the beginning there existed finite quantity of energy and the evolutionary principles that govern the evolutionary process of the universe.

Yours Cosvis.

[AntonioLao]

A naked singularity of the Big Bang is possible if and only if all the infinite number of directional invariance point inward at a given spacetime location.

[cosvis]

Hi AntonioLao,

You mentioned in your reply "all the infinite number of directional invariance". I do not not know what you mean? To me there exists two basic forces and energies in the universe, the gravitational and the kinetic. They are equal and opposite and their smallest quantity is contained in a quantum particle. The quantum particle is the smallest quantity of energy in the universe and forms the smallest black-hole. The radius of a black- hole depends on its quantity of energy. As its energy increases so also its radius. I cannot imagine a singularity, all energy or even infinite energy at a single point.

Yours cosvis.

[AntonioLao]

The radius of a black- hole depends on its quantity of energy.

Is it possible to see the Chandrasekhar's equations supporting this statement?

[neutralino]

Is it possible to see the Chandrasekhar's equations supporting this statement?

It depends on what one means by "radius" or "energy" of a black hole. Perhaps cosvis means the Schwarzshild radius, which is proportional to the mass of the black hole.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Perhaps a "black hole" is really a dark energy star, as our equations don't like infinities arising out of singularities.

[Profpat]

I cannot imagine a singularity, all energy or even infinite energy at a single point.

Yours cosvis.

Hi cosvis;

Can you imagine God?

Best to you,

Pat

P.S. " And God said 'let there be light and there was light' "

I believe both the bible and the best scientific evidence say that it was a created universe.

No matter how incredible it sounds, it seems that the church's ideas of a moment of creation were right from the beginning."

- STEPHEN HAWKING'S UNIVERSE,
Volume I, Program II: The Big Bang
Copyright 1997