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Grand Unified Field? - 11-16-2007, 09:45 PM

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > SCITECH
Laid-Back Surfer Dude May Be Next Einstein

Friday, November 16, 2007
A. Garrett Lisi

Physicist Garrett Lisi on the U.C. San Diego campus with a specialized braking skateboard he designed.
Physicist Garrett Lisi on the U.C. San Diego campus with a specialized braking skateboard he designed.
A surfer dude with no fixed address may be this century's Einstein.
A. Garrett Lisi, a physicist who divides his time between surfing in Maui and teaching snowboarding in Lake Tahoe, has come up with what may be the Grand Unified Theory.
That's the "holy grail" of physics that scientists have been searching for ever since Albert Einstein presented his General Theory of Relativity nearly 100 years ago.
Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics.
• Click here to visit FOXNews.com's Natural Science Center.
A successful Grand Unified Theory would use a series of equations to show how the four fundamental forces of nature — gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces — relate to each other.
Electromagnetism and the weak nuclear force, which controls radioactivity, were linked more than 30 years ago, and some progress has been made with linking them to the strong nuclear force, which binds protons together in the atomic nucleus.
Related• Click here for Lisi's images of himself surfing, snowboarding, skateboarding and hang gliding.
But gravity has always been an outlier. Not only have all attempts to link gravity to the other three forces failed, but physicists still can't agree on what gravity actually is or how it works.
Lisi solves this by using the E8 lattice, an eight-dimensional structure visualized earlier this year in a widely circulated paper.
• Click here to read more about the E8 lattice.
He noticed that several of the equations used to describe the lattice matched those he'd come up with trying to resolve the four fundamental forces.
"The moment this happened my brain exploded with the implications and the beauty of the thing," Lisi tells New Scientist magazine. "I thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"
• Click here to read a formal presentation of the theory, if you dare.
By mapping known subatomic particles, plus 20 imaginary ones, onto the 248 points of the E8 lattice, and then rotating the lattice in a computer model, Lisi shows how the particles elegantly combine to form three of the four forces.
The imaginary ones combine to form gravity, for which subatomic particles have only been theorized.
• Click here to watch a video of the lattice being rotated.
"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," David Ritz Finkelstein of Georgia Tech tells New Scientist. "I think that this must be more than coincidence and he really is touching on something profound."
But Professor Marcus du Sautoy of Oxford tells Britain's Daily Telegraph that "there seem to be a lot of things still to fill in."
For his part, Lisi self-mockingly calls his finding "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything," and downplays the suggestion that it may be the Grand Unified Theory.
"The theory is very young, and still in development," he tells the Daily Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelihood to this prediction."
He hopes the Large Hadron Collider, or LHC, currently being built on the Swiss-French border will find some of his 20 imaginary gravity-related particles.
"This is an all-or-nothing kind of theory — it's either going to be exactly right, or spectacularly wrong," Lisi tells New Scientist. "I'm the first to admit this is a long shot. But it ain't over till the LHC sings."
• Click here for the New Scientist story, and here for the Daily Telegraph version.
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Now, what I would like to know is, if there's any direct relationship between the above hot scoop, and the presentation in parts I and II of chapter VII at http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie ...


(**illustrated below in the logarithmic expression of 1,2,3,4, 5, 6,7, 8, 9 and 10, 90o segments - additional 'quantum leaps' , alternately parallel to and at right angles from the first four 90o quadrants of the 360o whole, and the extensional, alternating commencements at right angles and parallel to the 5th 90o segment. Alternative perspectives and definitions for dimensions <esp. 5 thru 8>, as well as the possibility of a heirarchy of 'quantum leaps' are directly implied here. <Any suggestions?> - KBR)

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Successive points dividing a golden rectangle into squares lie on a logarithmic spiral (Wells 1986, p. 39; Livio 2002, p. 119).
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There is no precedent for this offered dimensional interpretation of 'quantum mechanical photon effect' - what this author calls 'the translatory - exponentially accelerated - moment'. There seem to be many other important questions and answers in view of these expressions. Truly Yours welcomes the casting of more light on this - especially geometric - 'translatory moment' described, illustrated subjection.

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Re: Grand Unified Field? - 11-16-2007, 09:51 PM

See this thread for a link to the actual paper.

I like this quote: "Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics."

Firstly, the problem isn't completely solved. But secondly, I would describe Lie groups as simple!

"For his part, Lisi self-mockingly calls his finding "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything," and downplays the suggestion that it may be the Grand Unified Theory."

Journalists don't know anything! I'm sure that Garrett wasn't really "mocking himself" but instead was using the play on words that E[sub]8[/sub] is called an exceptional, simple Lie group.


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Re: Grand Unified Field? - 11-17-2007, 04:10 PM

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"Even more remarkable is that Lisi, who has a Ph.D. but no permanent university affiliation, solves the problem without resorting to exotic dimensions, string theory or exceptionally complex mathematics."
I’m only part way through the paper but it indicates his math of the differential manifold suggest otherwise. I think this is media hype again.


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Re: Grand Unified Field? - 11-17-2007, 05:23 PM

I think he should solve the Clay-Institute problems, and earn himself an easy seven-million dollars.

I'm sure he's no match for RP, though, and that an infinite number of overlappable spheres can solve any and all problems. Or the denser-than-ether substance that pervades the universe.
  
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