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12-13-2005, 06:59 PM
The Premonition The day would come when I could answer thus When someone asks me what is all the fuss? What of one's inner self and outer space And all those particles and of their place? What puts the conscious mind above it all? What piques my interest or makes it fall? Why is it I can only reach so far, Yet place my thoughts so deep within a star.
This great exploding cosmic anthropy, Its part in universal history, Which at its edge unfurls itself and space And time, which matter orders into place; That random quantum fluctuating thing Continues ad infinitum to bring A reason to that notoriety Of notion which begets infinity. The TOE part one: Before there was anything, there was nothing. Nothing is not something you can walk around in, or wave your hand through, or poke with a stick. Nothing is nothing.
The very idea that anything would exist is so staggeringly awesome and profound that the concept literally sinks into being. It is a very heavy idea. Quantum reality begins when that threshold of the polarization of potentials, ie. the virtually infinite scope that defines the difference between nothing and something, is realized. The creation process is begun at this time. Premonition created this Universe.
Space is as much a creation as the matter which occupies it. The Universe can only be observed from within. Creation is an ongoing process at its periphery. Any process that has a beginning and continues for perpetuity is a process which is in perpetual motion. Logic dictates that it is an accelerating process, hence the expanding, accelerating Universe.
Consciousness and premonition are mutually inclusive. They are mutually contingent. The Universe is anthropocentric in nature. Consciousness is a predisposition to the premonition which created this reality. Premonition does not require the function of time or any of the laws of physics that are not established before reality came into being.
Reality is a set of three cosms: the colossal, the macro, and the atomic. The colossal yields the atomic, which orders into the macro, where we find life. Life is the ultimate manifestation of the expression that is reality within this three-dimensional framework of the Universe, but its existence is predetermined and is the rule rather than the exception. The anthropic principle, which states that the Universe is the way it is because we are here to observe it should be rewritten to state that the Universe is the way it is because if it were any different then that is the way that it would be and there would still be somebody there to observe it.
"There is nothing permanent except change"
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12-14-2005, 07:35 AM
Your first post was a beauty. You have given much in the idea of Premonition. It is quite understandable. | |
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12-14-2005, 09:11 AM
The TEO part two:
The evolution of life began with the proliferation of the most primitive simple single-celled life, a unicellular life form containing simple nucleotide sequences. A period of two billion years passed before nucleated single-celled life, or eukaryotes, came into being.
From these eukaryotes to the most simple multi-celled life form with a left and a right side, a mouth and an anus, was a process that occurred over a one and a half billion year period.
The evolution of these most primitive of multi-celled life forms to present day humanity occurred over a period of six hundred and fifty million years.
It can be seen then that evolution is also an accelerating process, in keeping with the nature of the ongoing accelerating creation of this Universe.
Life is a predetermined manifestation of the expression of the consciousness that takes responsibility for the premonition which initiated the creation process. Since evolution is an accelerating process consciousness could not have become manifest in one giant infinitely existing sentient being. Such an entity would have grown obsolete over time. Therefore it is necessary for consciousness to be expressed in continually reproducing corporeal and finite entities.
As humans, we are mortal. It is tempting to contemplate the existence of a spiritual realm which complements the Universal sea of consciousness, a realm where the identity that we create, which opportunity this finite, corporeal harbour of the spirit affords us, can continue to maintain its being for all time. Having experienced the projection of my spiritual self from my corporeal self I am confident in declaring that this realm does indeed exist.
Insomuch as the spirit exists then it follows that transmigration of the spirit is a fact of life and that the transmigratory experience allows us to develop our spiritual selves to that state where we are ultimately released from the cycle of life and death to remain in that realm. It is up to us to choose to evolve spiritually.
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12-14-2005, 09:32 AM
I would like to see premonition developed further as the disturbance in the vacuum that led up to the Big Bang. All sentient creatures have known this phenomenon. Animals even have biological and physical changes attached to premonition of coming weather, etc. It is so much a part of nature that to have had a premonition to the Big Bang on the part of the vacuum is pure genius.
If it wasn't going on on so many levels, I wouldn't say that. Things prepare themselves by premonition. Fur coats grow thicker before a bad winter. Animals flee before disasters like an earthquake or tsunami. We have all had feelings that are strangely prophetic. Why should the vacuum have been any different in the beginning? Good point. | |
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12-14-2005, 10:18 AM
Thank you for your interest, Michelle
You use of the term vacuum suggests that there was a space before the premonition initiated the creation process. The concept of nothing is a difficult one to grasp. After all, how can something come out of nothing?
One way to look at it is to let statistics and probability help us out. In the same way that planting a million monkeys in front of a million typewriters for a million years will eventually produce a legible work of literature, probability determines that our premonition would nevertheless occur, even out of nothing. Notwithstanding that there were no rules of physics or science before creation, if for the sake of argument we could have measured time before the event, then trillions to the power of trillions of eons might have passed before that great moment that represented the precursor to creation was realized, as the laws of probability determine that it will be.
Remember, space is as much a creation as the matter which occupies it. This is very important, especially when we discuss gravity, or space-time. It might be said that matter and space were separated out of nothing and that the two are mutually exclusive. Even the dimension of volume did not exist before the premonition.
Nothing is indeed nothing. "There is nothing permanent except change" | |
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12-14-2005, 10:38 AM
My take on Gravity,
We have all read or heard of the concepts of space-time and the curvature of space, thanks to the venerable Albert Einstein. To assist one in an understanding of these ideas one should mentally visualize a large transparent cubic matrix made up of many smaller cubes. The smaller cubes are aligned such that the parallel lines on all three axes intersect at regular intervals because the smaller cubes that these lines define are all of the same size. Imagine that the large cube represents a cubic volume of space. Now mentally place a ball in the centre of the large cube such that the lines do not penetrate the ball but rather are displaced, or curved around it. The little cubes closest to the ball are the most curved and distorted but the amount of distortion decreases in proportion to the distance from the ball. What we have in effect done is not simply to place an object in space but displaced the space which that ball occupies. It is important to understand that even a discrete atom displaces space.
Gravity occurs as the result of spatial displacement. If there were no objects in this universe space would be evenly distributed. Space also wants to restore itself to an even, stable state where its mutable density has a tendency to balance out between and around two masses in the same way that it needs to restore its non-displaced state in the location where a single object is placed, effectively curving the space around it. To better understand this, temporarily mentally restore those little cubes of our experimental matrix and picture their attempt to return to their stable state in partnership with the imaginary matrix around a second nearby mass. If the thought experiment is successful the mind will visually move those curved lines which are parallel to the surface of both masses toward each other in the direction of the lines which are perpendicular to the bodies, and the lines of both bodies superimpose. The summing of those lines results in an effective cancellation similar to the principle that cause opposite phases of two superimposed sine waves to cancel each other out. A new distortion of our imaginary cubic configuration occurs and in effect the two systems are now becoming one system and in accordance with the fundamental rule that returns a system to its state of equilibrium, the original relationship between either mass and its space is now being defined by a new set of cubes and lines, forming a new single matrix. The net result is an attractive force as a consequence of the reorganization of space around the two masses to create a single system out of the two and the resulting tendency of both regions of spatial displacement to convert to a state of one region.
If we were indeed living in a static universe all the objects within it would be brought together and ultimately conform to the state of a single system with only one huge object occupying it. That is not the way things are because the universe is always expanding because of the ongoing and accelerating process of creation.
One can see then that gravity is not some kind of electromagnetic or subnuclear force at all but just another anomalous accommodation to three dimensional reality and to the fact that space is a creation unto itself and has a mutable density as a function of the bodies which occupy it. Once an object is attracted to another object this way, motion and therefore momentum result in a kinetic energy proportional to the respective mass of the object under study.
We may resist any attempt to be lured by theories concerning the existence of a graviton particle. Two contemporary physics Nobel laureates observed the mutually attractive force of two quarks. Quarks have been defined as the smallest individual subnuclear particles. "There is nothing permanent except change"
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12-14-2005, 10:52 AM
Do you have a feel for why the creation process is ongoing and accelerating. Particularly, why it is accelerating? | |
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12-14-2005, 11:52 AM
Baudrunner;
Welcome to ToeQuest.
I find your TOE concept more akin to religion or metaphysics than to any scientific discipline. There are however many members who find comfort in thinking the universe exists for the amusement of our species.
There is however, a high probability with little uncertainty that our thoughts will have absolutely no effect on the universe and its final outcome. David | |
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12-14-2005, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dleviwing Baudrunner;
Welcome to ToeQuest.
I find your TOE concept more akin to religion or metaphysics than to any scientific discipline. There are however many members who find comfort in thinking the universe exists for the amusement of our species.
There is however, a high probability with little uncertainty that our thoughts will have absolutely no effect on the universe and its final outcome. | I consider that true, Dave.
I personally think the fundamental reality is built from something like 'atoms' for example (or strings or whatever you want...) and every object we perceive is also built from it. So what we perceive is not fundamental reality (like 'atoms'). Cause our senses are 'focussed' by evolution on the macroworld. Atoms just bump against eachother, they don't show a direction of time. In the macroworld there is a direction; but this direction could be only in the mind, because in the microworld there is not a direction (I mean in the direction of entropy).
I don't consider the fact that the objects we perceive in our macroworld are built from atoms, is contradictory with the possible fact that the perceived objects (in the macroworld) could be just in the mind.
But I consider that even in the microworld atoms are just streaming (I mean from the direction of the past to the future). They just don't show a direction (like entropy for example); because they just bump. In the macroworld we have this direction. So if we would consider this direction as something in the mind; our thoughts or consciousness have no effect on the universe; they are just a way of perceiving things. | |
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12-14-2005, 03:07 PM
A perpetual motion machine which begins on its own and continues forever is constantly accelerating [fact]. Machine, system, what have you. Any scientist or mathematician will tell you the same thing.
Because the Universe is observed to be expanding [fact] and since it is also observed that this expansion is accelerating [fact] it follows that it started on its own [premise], therefore again, it is a system which is in perpetual motion.
One can't escape the logic.
Reality is not a mind game. There are definite rules that define the relationships that we have with all the various components with which we share it. We are not the figments of the imagination of some super mind or the playthings of some divine clique of Gods with nothing better to do with their time but to toy with their magic. We are a very real and requisite product from the ongoing process of cosmic generation. We truly belong here in this reality where we have a most important place in it. The very reason for our being subscribes to the necessary conformation to the continued manifestation of the anthropocentric universe. We are predetermined to exist by the necessary adaptation of the rationale that predates and predicates creation. Premonition created and continues to create the one and only universe.
The great power of the creative intellect is that it is capable of inventing something that simply is not real and can never be real. But we define reality by virtue of witness. We believe what we see. While we can have faith in what we believe when we cannot see it, we are most of us unmoving in rejecting that which is not the product of the thinking of the status quo when we have not been a witness to it. It is comfortable to believe what everyone believes but there is no rule that makes something real just because everybody believes it.
It is tempting to suggest that in a pristine and untouched corner of the universe one can invent a reality by merely thinking about it, so long as there are logically thought out rules that make its existence a plausibility; that this is perhaps how God made the universe, because there was nothing at that time but the potential for it to exist. Unfortunately, while that is an interesting and amusing notion in its own right, the processes that have shaped our reality cannot be recreated or reinvented. They are represented by a fixed set of rules in the fixed framework for this creation that cannot be broken, only accommodated. Our reality is indeed real, and not a holographic projection or a synthesis of the imagination. All the corners of the universe have already been created. It cannot be observed from without.
Philosophy and Science merge when one understands the whole truth. There is then no distinction between the two.
On the subject of entropy:
Contrary to popular belief, or more appropriately, a misunderstanding of the meaning of entropy, all structures in nature are biased toward maintaining or returning to their state of equilibrium, as demonstrated by the atom's tendency to return to a stable state when an applied energy producing its excitation is removed. The popular idea that a system has an irreversible tendency toward increasing disorder applies only to the state change of a system, such as the application of energy to change the thermodynamic state of a system or for example a state change from solid to liquid, or liquid to gas. It is said in any event that whenever a system is in the same thermodynamic state it has the same entropy, just as it has the same temperature, volume, and pressure. Thus in physics entropy is defined as a state variable. The universe does not have an irreversible tendency toward increasing disorder. All the evidence that we can see thus far points to the exact opposite. "There is nothing permanent except change"
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