[Lloyd Gillespie]

MK, ideas and emotions are radiation decay dependent. The further into undefined infinity you take either, the further you are from finite reality, sanity or any sensibility and meanigfulness. Emotions times emotions, minus logic, soon equals infinite insanity. Emotions times emotions divided by logic equals finite sanity. Emotions are all mathematizable thermals___the faster you go toward infinity, the hotter they get, thus their power, intent and potentiality decay and die into dead cold meaninglessness. Emotions, MK, are reality dependent on the finite real world___body, self, container, earth, universe, etc., etc... Emotional radiation power, potentiality, and intentionality decays the further from logic/ground/earth. Emotional radiation, power, potentiality, and intentionality increases the closer to logic/ground/earth.

Don't get all heated up, now___Mr. decreasing rad...

regards,

p.s.
Emotions are rad decay dependent, like any current...

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick The word was within the logos and radiated out its innermost intention,let there be motion,and motion there was. The first cause was then expanded to include the rotation of ideas? regards michael.

[mkirkpatrick]

Interesting reply,sadly though grossly mistaken.
regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Still lost in your infinite rubber room___R YA?

http://www.physics-philosophy-metaphysics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1688#1688

This explains the finite over the infinite best:

Mong H Tan, PhD



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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: Consciousness vs Observer: A Complementary to Infinity Quest Hello, Philosophers, Everybody, Mind, and Spirit!

Specifically, Knotty Nuf-Rumi: As I promised, as soon as possible, I would come to your Infinity thread—as recently I just post some relevant comments here Philosophical implications of TOE project (PhysOrgEU; September 21), in case you all would like to pursue these subjects further.

Remember a few months ago, when you introduced me your threads of the WSM and Infinity, I thought they were novel ideas—albeit metaphysical—but they were incomplete as a universal theory of our spherical Mind—a theory that I’ve had extensively and intensively researched and presented in my book Gods, Genes, Conscience—and a concept that may be likened to the double-looped Lemniscus (or 8, which I use as I couldn't find any other appropriate symbol), that symbolically represents the Infinity, as well as the interconnected relationship between our Consciousness and us, as the Observer. I think this is the key point—as quoted below—that Gil has had tried to raise and I fully concur with it that WSM or Consciousness only represents one loop, as follows:
Quote:Here is where I see a problem between the skeptics, scientists and spiritualists. I do not see any problem with space existing infinitely/eternally, but, and this is really a big but, I can in no way see how you can logically jump to life also existing infinitely within infinite space, unless you consider waves alive. As a skeptic of this idea, logic would dictate two possibilities here, not just the one wished for. Since neither of us can prove whether life existed, or not, before the biosphere, or can exist infinitely after the biosphere is long gone, my logic says we can not know this very important epistemological answer except by ontological faith, alone—thus the problem of religion entering your science, at this most important of points. If I read Milo correctly, he also believes in a conscious wave theory, at the least communicating—correct me if I'm wrong. If this be the case, no matter how much logic is applied, it still lands in faith—not science—as the two possible cases of life before any biosphere, anywhere in the universe; or no life anywhere in the universe, until first biosphere, are two real possibles. This is the major scientific/ontic question that must remain open, until further knowledge exists to establish the correct view—the a-theist or the theist... The logical possibility of either view is open-ended logic, i.e., unresolved—incomplete reasoning...

If you can resolve the above quandary of differences, it would be much appreciated... Also there is the problem of first cause. Just to state infinite eternal space/wave existence, by shear choice of faith, is not science—and herein lies much of the problem of why Wikipedia doesn't accept your total system, even though I agree with WSM, quantum dynamically, more than any other proposal, it still lacks a true first cause—except shear faith in infinite eternal existence. I personally think it goes much deeper to a true first cause—a thermodynamic self-creating, purely mechanical universe, later creating biospheric life, as we now, many billions of years later are enjoying. Of course, this is purely conjecture, but the logic door is pried open a bit further—again...

Sorry to counter your logic, but I feel some of the holes must be filled, as I support your ideas immensely... There are only a few in the world joining physics and philosophy, keep up the great work... Regards, Lloyd
I would characterize myself as an empiricist-philosopher, so my approach to solving the Infinity or the Theory of Everything (TOE) question, may appear unconventional to the dialectics of the traditional philosophers who might have had been focusing on Metaphysics as a subject, in order to arrive at their TOE, or Consciousness and Special Relativity—please see also Quantum mechanics: Who is the observer? (PhysOrgEU; September 14).

Briefly, here is how I would arrive at the TOE or Infinity from a modern neurophilosopher’s perspective, that I’ve had discussed elsewhere before as well—eg, in A search of particle-wave function in our brain?! (PhysOrgEU; July 22) and Consciousness and Special Relativity? (PhysOrgEU; August 18 ), etc—that Consciousness is an ambiguous subject even today that none a well-trained scientist or philosopher could have had gotten it right completely, satisfactorily. Indeed, it is too hot and vague a subject to debate; it is also too hard a phenomenon to define and to be understood, in and by any conventional ways, other than awaiting more advances in our modern interdisciplinary Science and metacognitive Epistemology of the subject—including your Infinity project herein, of course!

Definitions aside, whoever comes up with the quantum mechanics of Consciousness or the mechanisms of our Mind, shall eventually win the race, so as to comprehend the universal theory of Consciousness, or the TOE or Infinity.

At least, that was my understanding and impression that I’ve had gotten when I was doing extensive-intensive research for my new book Gods, Genes, Conscience whose subtitle is self-explanatory as follows: A socio-intellectual survey of our dynamic mind, life, all creations in between and beyond, on Earth; or A critical reader’s theory of everything: past, present, future; in continuum, ad infinitum, in case you all might be interested in scrutinizing it, at your convenience, of course—whereas it took me about 15 years to write and publish it!

Epistemologically, since the 1980s, Consciousness and theory of the human mind, have had been increasingly studied by many prominent philosophers and scientists alike, from all possible ways or perspectives, accurately or misguidedly, throughout our intellectual and spiritual history. Generally, I would characterize them, as follows; although by no means it’s to be construed as an exhaustive list:

1) Metaphysical-cosmological—eg, Spinoza; Einstein; Carl Jung; et al; whose hunches are that consciousness or deity as something big out there in the Universe, beyond our reach physically;

2) Hard artificial intelligence (AI)—eg, Turing; Marvin Minsky; Ray Kurzweil; et al; who believe that computers will be conscious someday; AI dreaming, so to speak;

3) Neurophysics-mathematics—eg, Descartes; Roger Penrose; et al; who pinpoint the seat of consciousness in our brain, but all in the wrong places; Descartes pointed at the pineal gland, Penrose at the neuronal microtubules (1994), all inconsistent with the current knowledge of neuroscience, neurology, and neuro-endocrinology!

4) Soft artificial intelligence—eg, Paul Churchland; David Chalmers; Steven Pinker; et al; who believe that consciousness may be akin to digital computational software;

5) Neurophilosophy—eg, Francis Crick; Patricia Churchland; et al; who attempt to incorporate neuroscience into theory of mind, but they are not quite there yet, both conceptually and empirically; all lost in the complexities of the neuropsychological forests, so to speak;

6) General philosophy—eg, John Searle; et al; who vehemently oppose all AI representation or simulation of the human mind or consciousness; whose “Chinese room” thought experiment is exemplary, as a debunker of the AI thesis, hard and soft;

7) Faulty theory of memetics (not even a philosophy!)—eg, Richard Dawkins; Daniel Dennett; Susan Blackmore; et al; whose Evolutionism in The Selfish Gene (1976) gives rise to the scientistic, metaphysical, evolutionistic theory (or wordplay) of meme (or myth); whereby our consciousness may be likened to the viral contagion in our brain, gloriously and utterly fashionable nonsense, for 3 decades now;

8 ) Self-defeatist philosophy—eg, Mary Midgley; Colin McGinn; et al; who proclaim that consciousness is what our brain does, but we’ll not be able to understand it! And,

9) Interdisciplinary metacognitive philosophy—eg, Gods, Genes, Conscience; wherein a new theory of consciousness is presented (Chapter 15 The Universal Theory of Mind), whose quantum mechanics dubbed “memophorescenicity” has had been empirically defined and localized in the particle-wave function of our cortical neuronal membrane (2006)—please also see Scientists use quantum mechanics to control a biological process (PhysOrgEU; September 7)!

For your consideration and discussion at hand, I would like to characterize the WSM as a priori (as one loop of the Lemniscus), that the Universe is an infinite entity that is in a permanent dynamic equilibrium; whereas and whereby the Evolution of the STEM matrices (of space, time, energy, and matter entities) in the Universe above and beyond would occur all the times, primarily as a result of the permanent dynamic equilibrium of the Universe itself; and very importantly, as a new concept, of the 2 key physiochemical properties that are inherent to all STEM matrices, especially Life entities or organism building blocks: the intrinsic chemical propensity, and the extrinsic chemical reactivity or opportunity (please see Gods, Genes, Conscience; Chapter 2.1 The Universe, Galaxies, the Sun, Moon, and Earth; and Chapter 3.6 The Diversity of Life)—whereas for a more intensive-extensive quest of the Evolution of Life on Earth, including our human beings as the Observer (as the other loop of the Lemniscus), in the Universe above and beyond, please see Gods, Genes, Conscience; Chapter 2 The Universal Elements of Life; Chapter 3 The Physicochemical Basis of Life; and Chapter 4 The Human Life, Mind, Dreams, Intelligence, and Conscience.

As such, the Evolution of the STEM entities would give rise to unlimited complexity and quality in the Universe, thus Infinity (8 ); and that’s why we often find infinite patterns, that would appear to have had been designed (from a creationist theological perspective) in the Universe above and beyond—whereas the net quantity as in mass or energy of the Universe would remain constant, as a result of its permanent dynamic equilibrium of the multidimensional STEM matrix or Infinity (8 ) that we’ve had now been able to perceive and philosophize as the TOE or Consciousness on Earth!

Specifically, and neuro-electrochemically—if you would make a quick review of the Frontispiece of Gods, Genes, Conscience—the main medium that projects imageries of the Infinity (8 ), as a reflection of Consciousness into our brain, is Light (the optical quanta of photons, as shown in the Square inset) through and by our visual circuitry, as follows: Perceptivity through retina > imagery-memory modulation > particle-wave functions of imagery-memory on the cortical neuronal membrane (please see the Circular inset) > “memophorescence” > “memophorescenicity” > infinite creativity or fluidity of imagery-memory, thereby making us, the Observer-philosopher as well as the “memory manipulator” or “thinker” of this stream of visual Consciousness, being modulated on the cortical membrane, as exemplified by a projection or imagination of the Creation of Adam, in a modern would be Michelangelo’s spherical mind.

Thus, contrary to your WSM view of the TOE of Cosmology, consciousness, spacetime, and metaphysics—which may qualify for category 1) above—Consciousness, or intelligence, or even dreams, thoughts, emotions, etc, are in fact the electrochemical functions of our brain within, cumulatively known as the “infinite” Mind, memory, psyche, etc, of the Observer-thinker, in each of ourselves. Furthermore, the infinite universal theory of Mind notwithstanding, the quantum mechanics of memophorescenicity, would and must also be applicable to all of our other sensory circuitries as well, including those of our smelling, tasting, touching, and hearing; all neuro-electrochemically, forming the senses and experiences of our body and infinite Mind, thus Infinity (8 ), etc—please see Gods, Genes, Conscience; Chapter 15 The Universal Theory of Mind; and as explained in category 9) above.

Quantum mechanically, our Mind would work like a pinhole camera, that would receive—or perceive in our case; as shown in the Frontispiece, as explained above—and project images—or cortical memophorescenicity—ad infinitum, at the back of the camera—or in our infinite spherical Mind—thus giving us our unlimited multidimensional ability and capacity to view, sense, analyze, dream, speculate, comprehend, and appreciate the beauty of Infinity (8 ) in the Evolution of Life and Mind, and the Universe above and beyond, accurately or misconceptually, as explained in categories 1) to 9) above, as a TOE or the WSM of Consciousness as Infinity (8 )!

Thank you all for your kind attention and cooperation in this matter. Happy reading, thinking, scrutinizing, and enlightening!

Best wishes, Mong 9/21/6usct12:44p; author Gods, Genes, Conscience and Gods, Genes, Conscience: Global Dialogues Now; a cyberspace hermit-philosopher of Modern Mind, whose works are based on the current advances in interdisciplinary science and integrative psychology of Science and Religion worldwide; ethically, morally; metacognitively, and objectively.

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Interesting reply,sadly though grossly mistaken. regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

The Absolute State Of "The Absolute"

1.The state of no mind. No free will. This state can be deduced by trans-finite logic of what the absolute must be after radiation decay of quantumized angular spin. Mind is impossible to exist without a fully quantumized space. This is non-quantumized space, because it is low entropy linear motion only. Low entropy requires this by the laws of physics.

2.The state of no logic. No cognition. Though we can with trans-finite deductive and trans-finite inductive logic know this state, the state can not support logic, as again it is linear.

3.The state of no emotion. No intuition. Though we can feel with imagination and emotionally know this state, the state can not support emotion, as again it is linear.

4.The state of eternal perpetual motion. We can think of no other way for a universe to exist, and eventually produce life. Low entropy thermo-hydro-dynamics requires it by necessity of the law of no law, and the laws of physics. The absolute possesses no laws, only matter motion. We interpret its motions obeying the laws of logic, when in fact, its the laws of its own mechanical self-necessity. It is unfree to do anything else. It has no choice, thus later on is seen as a quantum chance___the uncertainty principle.

5.The motion is imploding/centripetal. This is a required necessity of thermodynamics' hydrodynamics of the laws of physics and motions of any extremely low entropy linear state at this early time period of infinity.

6.The motion is wave structured. Both quantum and relative mechanics agree with this. We can prove it to ourselves just by feeling the waves of cold and heat hitting our skin.

7.The wave is matter. The wave is linear. This is the tricky one to understand. Einstein showed that all matter and energy are equivalent at light speed, but we are talking about the lowest speed of all motion. Why is wave motion matter? The absolute must have a substance to exist. What must this substance be to exist? There is no energy without substance, therefore the substance has to be made of some type of fluid matter, to have motion, which we know it does. We could call it energy, but then how would energy move? What would move it? Where's the substance? The energy absolutely has to turn to matter at low entropy, to have any substance, therefore substance is matter. The trans-finite logic of total universal decay also agrees with the above, and as has been similarly proved by David, "Matter Is All In A Void." I agree. The linear low entropy state can support only matter motion.

8.The wave is non-quantumized. The wave medium of space, being low entropy of a near lowest order, is non-angular, since such low entropy will not support high entropy angular motion. It takes high entropy to support or create quantumized matter.

9.The motion is thermal at 0k. to 3.7k. low entropy. Simple logic would dictate this true by analysis of leaving the finite high entropy spin of quantimized space for low entropy non-quantumized linear wave infinity, and the fact we are addressing the absolute before any finiteness existed.

10.Motion is the eternal necessity. This should be a reasonable statement to any belief. Since linear space can not support logic, mind or emotions, necessity is all that's left, though I would have to admit it has Michael's potentiality. All motion has some sort of potential inertia. It also has this inertia, a property of perpetual motion.

11.It is a substance. What kind of substance? It is the decayed matter/motion/energy of the present and last universal cycle. Does our solid matter completely decay to the wave matter substance? This we await the Hadron Accelerator next year, to see if an Einstein-Bose Condensate falls out, or other real particle matter. I surmize there is some elemental stardust mixed with the absolute matter substance___my conjecture. Radiated finiteness turns to infinite space matter/motion.

12.The substance is eternal infinity. This is how I describe the absolute, as this is all that will be left after finite universal decay, until the universe self-rebirths itself by the absolutely necessary motions mentioned above.

13.The substance is the entire universe in two state change___the finite within and about the infinite. The absolute substance is matter, eternally. The absolute is fluid matter that has motion. There's only one absolute___matter. There's only one singularity of absolute matter with two states___infinite and finite.

A few laws and ideas to back this up.

1.Keep all theories below Einstein c and all mysteries vanish.

2.I'm studying the death of the universe to find out how its birth worked.

3.The absolute universal life cycle principle___Life only exists in death. We're living in the death cycle side of the universe.

4.The death cycle of the universe is the life cycle of humanoids.

5.Mind, a product of the biosphere, does not influence the greater mechanical universe.

6.The absolute matter quantum principle___All motion is thinned or densed matter states.

7.All field's are matter's motions, thinned and densed.

8.All field's are absolute matter, thinned and densed.

9.The absolute matter quantum states___The low infinite and high finite is one matter/motion/energy.

10.Stay within Einstein's laws of physics and nothing can exceed the speed of light, and all of quantum matter/motion energy can be explained classically sound by thermalicity.

11.The absolute principle___All motion is absolute matter in varrying states of motion.

12.The cold quantum is low entropy mass or absolute matter.

13.The wave mass of an electron proves all waves have mass, thus motion is matter.

14.The infinite substance is two sets of matter mass___low and high. This means what we normally think of as energy is actually low or high entropy matter, turned to high or low entropy mass.

15.The law of absolute motion is a perpetual eternal necessity of low entropy.

16.The universal principle of motion___It must move by the law of thermodynamics' necessities.

17.The universal thermalicity principle___Motion travels the same scaler rate on both sides of light.

18.The absolute universal principle___Necessity "IS"

19.Absolute TAO truth equals absolute TOE truth.

20.The thermodynamics equivalency principle___Absolute low to high entropy and high to low entropy, dark and light motion sliding scaler rates, is identical on both sides of light.

21.The thermalicity principle___If it be 10^137 years on this side of light, then it must be 10^137 years on the other side of light___Light motion equals dark motion.

Eric, one must realize finiteness is infinity itself in full view and factual absolute conversion of low entropy matter into high entropy, highly visable absolute matter, thus the twin dynamics of absolute infinity and absolute finiteness___They are one total absolute matter dynamic.

You know Eric, mathematicians have for centuries said it is also impossible to divide infinity by infinity, without ending up with infinity. Well herein lies the false truth of all mathematics, since the real universe divides one zero infinity into one infinity and creates all finiteness and the biological state of your/our/my minds. So when you learn how the universe's state of no mind accomplishes this simple feat, you have graduated to true mathematics of whole and part.

Why have quantum mechanicists ignored the two most important forces to quantum mechanics___the centrifugal and the centrifusal forces that must exist to quantimize anything, star, etc., into singularity?

1.Infinity divided by infinity is the absolute false truth of everything.

2.The law of no law is the law of all law___the absolute matter.

3.The "Mythos" is infinity divided by infinity equals not anything. The "Logos Truth" is it does divide and produce finiteness___it exists from the necessary to the necessary.

4.The universal cold quantum principle___The cold quantum requires infinity linear low entropy to exist. Where else does cold come from? Tis the absolute necessity of all existence. Where does the cold quantum come from if not infinity___the absolute state of matter___the true absolute?

5.0k. can exist as there exists no quantum angular molecular motion to slow down or stop at the absolute. Matter's absolute state can be 0k___its very essence___Remember matter is the quantum chameleon.

6.The absolute truth is the truth of the false___eliminate the false ideas and absolute truth falls out.

7.1infinity divided by 0infinity = E Everything___infinity + finiteness.

8.Infinity undividable by infinity is the absolute false truth of everything. Infinity divided by infinity = F finiteness___and is true because it exists.

9.The mathematicians are wrong to say infinity can not be divided by infinity and equal anything but infinity___as the absolute truth is infinitely divided by itself___and equals finiteness.

10.The universal mathematics principle___The math of finite creation is the mathematics of the finite decay.

11.No mind exists beyond the no mind state.

12.The low entropy linear state permeates the high entropy angular/linear state.

13.Infinity is divided by infinity to create finiteness___eternally.

14.At the absolute state of the absolute___you have to have a container, to have a brain/mind___no container exists to the unbeyond.

15.Thermo-hydro-dynamics requires infinity to be a circle by its imploding, compressing, centripetal, centrifical, centrifugal, and centrifusal mono-pole-istic necessities.

16.Where does low cold entropy come up with a brain/mind?___Only in the finite biosphere, where brained organisms were first created.

17.The Boolean thermal switch of the universe___Absolutely everything is just a thermal switch from low entropy cold to high entropy hot and back again, and again, on and on, to eternity.

18.The absolute is a fluid matter that acts like energy at low entropy, and like solid matter and energy at high entropy.

19.1/0 is the no-mind all-mind mathematics state of everything = E.

20.Absolutely all "Mythos" and "Logos" is produced in the finite biosphere age.

21.The absolute fluid matter produced "Mythos" in the finite singularity of biosphere.

22.The universal circuitry[no electricity though] is the land of the law of no law___the no mind state.

23.The absolute TAO is the absolute matter producing mind TOE.

24.Solid finite matter decays to fluid infinite matter.

25.The infinitely huge divided by the infinitely small equals everything___E___1/0=E.

You have a choice___the biosphere creation of a sensible human mind, or the universe no mind state of insanity.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

How many Big bangs? - Today, 01:28 AM



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Originally Posted by dipayankar
However any idea what could have caused the Big Bang???[{First, this is all my own theory and facts, that I can substantiate with mathematical reasoning and a thorough going logic of the entire universe's cycle...} It had to explode, or we'd have no light. The other causes are below.] What would have been the matter / Energy in the singularity??[Most likely, the quantumization of linear motioned hydrogen/helium/hydrozing condensates of trillions of trillions of years of the fundamental thermal matter space storms and resulting radiation heat.] And why did it explode???[Light{low velocity} thermal motion implosions, creating extreme{high velocity} thermal motion compressions, creating first small storms and hurricanes, then giant storms, hurricanes and tornados, ever increasing in size and pressures toward a center. Rotations meet and change directions on opposing axis when turning the same or opposite directions, so extreme heat from all initial and final motion would have been concentrated in centri-petal, centrifical, centrifugal and centrifusal forces, forming em waves, gravity waves, super-gravity, etc. When these combinations of motion forces reached high enough velocities, [what we call relative velocities], actually thermal radiation stage of molecular motion into entropy stages of mass, where it must radiate its mass to increase in velocity, and thus the collapse stage 1 of a true building Black Hole singularity. Further stages of collapse would have continued for trillions of years, quantumizing enough fundamental matter, out of initial linear matter motion, only, to build the early universe. IMO, stars continue the process of quantumization of matter to this day.]

What caused the matter / energy to come into a singularity??[Thermo-hydro-dynamic space storms of matter/motions/energies] Why did it 'explode'??[The same reason some stars still explode. Remember this was the first___one had to explode to creat any light at all, in the universe. It's just scientifically required, or we wouldn't be here and able to see light. The other reason is compression, just like a diesel engine.] What was the matter / energy that formed the sigularity??[That answer is found by seeing total finiteness as a single atom. Let it decay out to 10^137 Hawking years, and you have to have fundamental matter. It's required to eternally exist, by the very first law of thermodynamics, which LaPlace of France, proved in the 1700's___matter and energy can never be destroyed, only converted one to the other.] Was it some earlier version of any space time???[IMO, space-time is Einstein's metaphysical idea, it's not the reality. Space, yes. Time is mans concept layed on the motion of space matter. I only accept Newtons absolute space. It's the only way to escape the std. model's foolishness of coming from either a point or nothing. Einstein was a great physicist. He was a lousy metaphysicist. His physics and math are correct, but when he tried to figure out his own thoughts of the giant ideas, he failed miserably, and we've been locked in his false metaphysics, for over a century.]

True science would tell us it did not come from a point or nothing as the std. model and many quantum models accept. The singularity formed from the fundamental thermal matter motions of infinite eternal uncreated linear space. The way to know this must be true is to realize the existing universe, being perpetual motion, needs a source of finance for its matter/motions. This requires the infinite source of a prime mover, which is a simple uncaused cause. There's only one in the scientific arsenal___thermodynamics and the hydrodynamics of. Since we scientifically know we can't have motion or energy without something to move, a fundamental substance is absolutely required___thus absolute matter, which in turn requires an infinite space to exist in, since finite motion requires an external prime mover for its perpetualness, and thermodynamics being such a weak motioner, the infinite thermal matter motion space theory of matter/energy, before the big-bang is absolutely required. How did it work? It was, IMO, just the most gigantic weather system ever possible to imagine, and all heat radiation created by early motions would have been pushed to a virtual/eventually real center, for trillions of trillions of years, also heating and increasing the fundamental substance size. IMO, somewhere say 10^20 years before the final building of the hydrogen/helium/hydrozine highly compressed mass black gaseous/plasma ball, where quantumization was initiated, it would have started quantum tunneling out into infinite space, before the real explosion. As it exploded into a pre-quantumized finite space, it would have created the vacuum of space, as all explosions create vacuums at their centers. The tremendous violence of this explosion would almost be like imagining infinity itself exploding, even though it was only a small piece of infinity's center. Space storms of massive size would have existed before the final stages, leading to quantum spray, such as quasars, but nothing in intensity after the unimaginable forces of such an explosion. Hurricane and tornado force winds at near the speed of light, much higher then, due to lower mass density of the aether, in all directions, since such violent heat was exploding into virgin 0K. If you've ever seen and heard super-heated steam hitting freezing water, you'd have some idea what the violence would have been. Tornados and hurricans, before and after explosion are what, IMO, shaped the galaxies motions, cmbr and all space curvatures since. Smaller black holes would have been formed from the initial Black Hole , especially at the wall of the thunder head front, shooting black holes and initial galaxie forming matter in every direction, out and back in, in 360 degrees. This is why we still witness the Hubble speeds of planets at distance, which are really the burned out memories of super-light stars and super-light initial galaxies. Galaxie evolution would have progressed to produce the heavier stars and galaxies of today.

Hope this helps,
LLoyd

p.s.
A final note; The infinite eternal cold thermal is absolutely required to exist to continue the cooling equilibrium of the hot finite space matter motions described above. There is no other source of cold except the infinite linear field, the hot quantumized aether field exists in. The finite universe would have experienced heat death long ago, without the required infinite cold linear field permeating all of finiteness's hot quantum field.