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    The story of PHOTON as I see it

    Once upon a time there was a single solitary photon, all alone with nothing to do but sit still and ponder whatever a photon ponders. After a few billion years of this it decided to do something different. "today I think I will move." And so it did, it moved exactly 1 away from where it had been. This caused several things to happen, first it created math, the very first number. It created distance, it moved exactly its own length away from itself, one photon away. It created time as it required time to move the distance although at its super luminal velocity once it turned around it saw itself standing where it had been a few moments ago. This created in essence two photons to anything not moving at the speed of light. When photon tried to move back to its original position it found it could not, because that space was still occupied by itself so something amazing happened, it appeared to move instantly beyond that original space to negative 1. Each time Photon tried to get back to its original position it found it self one more space farther than it had gone before, all of this happening at a speed infinitely greater than the speed of light. The result of this was a sudden explosion of matter (photon on the positive side of its movement) and anti matter (photons movement into negative space). With all this movement and photon occupying every 1 space and creating new 1 spaces with every movement created two identical universes, one of matter and one of anti matter, very possibly an exact opposite of the universe we know.
    Because photon occupies all space at all times its motion is actually zero or absolute zero. Now imagine that photons speed is limited to only 6 or 7 hundred times the speed of light, then even though it would have no bounds in time as we know it, it would however have limitations, such as how fast it could expand the two universes, this would give all observers in that universe the appearance of a universe whose expansion is slowing when in reality it isn't really, it is simply expanding in all directions at once and since photon can only add 1 photons size to the universe per trip the universes outward expansion from the center would be slower but the total addition to the universe by volume would remain the same. Also any anomaly such as galaxies would appear to move away from all other galaxies.
    Now imagine that every atom in your body is created of 1 spaces of Photon that isn't actually there anymore yet still occupies that space because it once was there. The point at which those two photon spaces make contact is separated by the age of the photonic space. That difference gives us that weakest of energies called gravity. And like a great globular pool of water the disturbances of photon passing through itself as energy creates waves, or tiny vortexes, we call these atoms. Because photon is a permanante fixture, its energy is non-diminishing, however the waves it creates is. So even though an atom will diminish in time, its energy still exists being spread out over its surrounding atoms.
    Death is the diminishing of your wave in this universe, and even though you die, the energy that was you lives on in the atoms of everything else around you. When our planet which is a larger wave crashes into the sun your energy will become a part of the suns energy, and when the sun goes supernova, your energy will be sent out among the universe possible to find a new home in a new lifeform somewhere else.

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    I agree that if the speed of light is the limit (and by 'the speed of light' I don't mean the hypothesized 300,000 km/s, I mean the speed at which photons are moving, whetever it is, if bigger or smaller than 300,000 km/s) speed, and they are the smallest quanta of energy, then they must have a motion such that they cover up always their own space in the 3 spatial dimensions, but also in the time dimension. This it, don't you realize, if the photon1 moves to the space-time which is to a distance of a photon from it, this distance is not only moving spatially, but also temporally, that is, the life of the photon1 in the previosu space must also dissapear, as the photon can only move to this new space-time point if both the space and the time are the size of a photon's extensin on them. Therefore, the photon of space-time 1, doesn't exist anymore, as it's time should ahve also been completed in order fo rthe photon to move 1 photon in space-time. Then the rest, for this failure, is wrong.

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    Quantum of light.

    A quantum of light is a privileged particle.
    And SRT examines the behaviour of a quantum of light in the Vacuum.
    SRT solve the problem:
    that will take place, if quantum of light will change the rectilinear movement c=1.
    Best wishes.

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    Talking aghh!

    photons mystery speed limiter is no mystery. First of all, photons are a mathematicians 'fill in the blank' idea designed to make his other ideas work. They knew the answer they wanted, so they found a cockamamy way to explain it because they hadn't the balls to come up with a real good idea. A photon as you call it is really an exchange of kinetic force in the form of small particles such as electron and muon neutrinos moving in one direction, and bosons stuck together temporarily in a rotating set on a plane moving the opposite direction. A positron is identical, however using more force by amplitude, merits a larger particle, the electron, and a stronger faster rotating set of electron lacking bosons which are the key here because they are the formatter of infinite space. Through kinetic reactions alone, these carry all forms of radiation. They surround all atoms to maintain the yang for the yin. Replace strings in string theory with line of force tension between all known particles simply let to fall into place in this infinite format of bosons and not only have you the key to the unified field theory, but you've explained all cosmological mysteries as well, such as why 'Y' the new particle exists which does not mix with building blocks of known theory, why the red shift shifts without the need of an expanding universe from the stupid gay big bang theory. ie; kinetic microwaves travelling soley through bosons which are being sucked up by supermassive dual funnel black holes in the center of each galaxy (which are broken into parts, mostly neutrinos which move out now against there flow... but do not help speed up the now permanently slowed microwave!!!) blah blah blah blah etc... ughhh
    Oh yes, and by the way, light is relative to electrons, past the speed of light, certain elements on the periodic table may exist without electrons, so only light gasses cannot pass the speed of light. Everything else just changes states. Metal goes liquid eventually. Lithium holds up for quite a while. Raioactive isotopes/ heavy metals last into multiples of light speed and become more stable with each step, in one way or another. hmmm. anything I missed? quite a lot I suppose . Any questions?
    You would conclude the universe to be made of numbers, strings, or maybe even a bunch of little Mickey Mouses, and I would conclude you to be a lunatic.

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    Mike;
    Try reading through the posts in this thread.
    The Genesis Hypothesis

    Why do you feel that scientist are intellectual morons?
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    What is a quantum of light?

    Quantum of light is a particle and wave simultaneously.

    Exact there is a simultaneity of space and time.

    Is it clear?

    For me such explanation is unsatisfactory.

    It just as to speak, that the logic information and

    the senseless message are the same simultaneously.

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    no error, no failure

    One would do well to keep up to date on developments in the world of physics, Guille. I found the thread starter PHOTON as I see it not only entertaining but obviously the product of some well thought-out ideas. Jessebonin should continue to contribute more of these interesting thought experiments.

    From a BBC News article about faster than light experiments:

    According to the researchers, the main part of the light pulse leaves the far side of the chamber even before it enters at the near side!
    Now this is difficult to come to terms with from a philosophical viewpoint but philosophy never claimed to explain reality!

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    Wave-particle duality

    The understanding of wave-particle duality grew from empirical observations resulting from experiments concerning the nature and behaviour of light at the macro scale. Waves explained diffraction and interference but photonic quanta explained the photoelectric effect and blackbody radiation.

    Understanding wave-particle duality is not so difficult when one understands that the concepts inherent in the explanation can be used mathematically to establish orbital characteristics of atoms in the Bohr model of atomic structure. The following link provides a basic understanding:

    http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/quantumzone/debroglie.html
    "There is nothing permanent except change"

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    The Photon particle illusion.

    There are few interactions between waves and particles that result in an exchange of anything. The illusion of something releasing energy or gaining energy is just a perceptual analogy that promotes false concepts of EM radiation.

    A wave that interacts with an electron will cause a change in the distribution of motion of the electron's standing wave function and it uniform motion. The wave will at this time change its linear uniform (relative mass) motion to become randomized.

    As stated in other posts; "mass is indicative of a measure of the quantity of uniform motion of an object and thus its potential energy". When an electron is said to absorb a quanta of EM energy it is actually increasing its quantity of uniform motion either as angular motion (shorter standing wavelength function and higher energy state) or as linear motion being ejected from the substance and again a shorter standing wavelength function. Emission is just the opposite process.
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    Thats the point

    Quote Originally Posted by dleviwing
    There are few interactions between waves and particles that result in an exchange of anything. The illusion of something releasing energy or gaining energy is just a perceptual analogy that promotes false concepts of EM radiation.

    A wave that interacts with an electron will cause a change in the distribution of motion of the electron's standing wave function and it uniform motion. The wave will at this time change its linear uniform (relative mass) motion to become randomized.

    As stated in other posts; "mass is indicative of a measure of the quantity of uniform motion of an object and thus its potential energy". When an electron is said to absorb a quanta of EM energy it is actually increasing its quantity of uniform motion either as angular motion (shorter standing wavelength function and higher energy state) or as linear motion being ejected from the substance and again a shorter standing wavelength function. Emission is just the opposite process.

    The math doesn't work work because we (by we i mean the scientific and intellectual community) still think of light a an abstract byproduct of energy, and we perceive Photonic energy as multiples. The truth is if you look closely into my story you will find a paradox. No matter how much we want to see the photon moving to expand space, it does not actually move. By "moving" one quanta superluminally it merely grows in size by that amount, and the "rubber band" effect causes it to enter negative space. there by decreasing its size by negative one quanta of photonic energy. The equilibrium of this hyper vibration is increased vibration. The truth of this lies well observed in the multiple states of mass. As an atom becomes more excited it changes characteristics.

    A photon being the mathematical variant to help us understand light is only partially true. Why does light effect all atomic activity? The simplest answer is that all atoms are light, and Al E. proved this though was unable to explain to his colleages the ramification of his study. He left allot out because he knew the scientist of his time would discredit any theory that might lead to the proof of higher intelligence. But he left lots of clues for those willing and able to read between the mathematical lines. The beauty of his most famous mathematical product is its simplicity and its ability to apply itself to almost any quantum practice. He did however mention that it was not complete.

    This is what led me to think of other possibilities for the proper use of that math and theory. If we substitute the speed of light for other numbers for example we come up with interesting result, results even I can understand. Of course you have to change our whole numbering system to see the elegance of it all. For instance, give light the speed of 1 and see what results you get when you try to split an atom and guess the resulting energy. Thats correct, its mass and energy would be interchangeable, as well as its velocity.

    So if numbering light are static how do we exist and feel movement and time? Harmonics!! Just like a holograph, the harmonic properties of a static object can create wondrous things. We have all see a holograph I hope, but did you know that if you cut the film in half you would have a perfect picture still only half the size? And if you cut that film down to where there was only one molecule left and shines a laser through it you would have a picture replica of the original the size of an electron (or at least similar in size). Our entire universe works pretty much the same way, as photon grows, so does the picture of the universe.

    The slowing of the universe is the same principle, Lets say Photon actually doubles its volume every time it passes itself, at some point, the sheer size of the thing would be large enough that the thing only actually grew very little. If you were to take a gallon of water into space and measure its diameter as a globe, then added exactly one gallon to it would its diameter double? would its radius double? of course not, because the external surface would have to grow exponentially. Now lets say you posistioned some objects in the water and then added that extra water to the center of the globule, all the objects you laced in it would move outward from the center, and away for each other. If you added water at a given rated initially the objects would move very quickly away from each other, and gradually slow but never actually stop. To an observe on one of those objects it would appear that all the objects were moving away from the center but slowing due to gravitation and would eventually start drifting back towards the center.

    If an object of energy is at the center of our universe vibrating at superluminal velocities, and leaving energy ghosts of itself in its wake, it could be simple pushing our reality away from itself at that given rate, the speed of light. Are the objects suspend in the water actually moving? No, because the energy that is light is the same energy that has always been there. And our experiments are simple catching glimpses of the overall holograph.

    There is far to much to explain in one sitting but I will try to expound on any points made in the thread.

 

 
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