[G_burnett]

ahh this computer cut off the rest of what i wanted to add sorry Michael I reiterate that this was a joke site posting and given here to elaborate the length of process the human persona will go to expand there consciousness and the history of this drug used first to treat social dysfunctional alcoholics and then used for recreational use that destroyed the ability of some to benefit from it.
The Canadian researchers then moved on to very high postings in the US Academic world and Canadian Government Ministries.
The way it effected the mind I found interesting reading.
the ingenuity of the human persona never fails to amaze me, this struggle to DO just for the sake of doing or ability to do.
What further caught my attention was that in the Canadian experiments there was empathy used and in the US tests later there was not and the US tests by the way they gave predrugs to the recipients and strapping them to the beds and even in the military experiments where they tested subjects with out there knowledge with no empathy at all were in real contrast to the sharing with that took place in Canada tests and so were the results.

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by G_burnett ahh this computer cut off the rest of what i wanted to add sorry Michael I reiterate that this was a joke site posting and given here to elaborate the length of process the human persona will go to expand there consciousness and the history of this drug used first to treat social dysfunctional alcoholics and then used for recreational use that destroyed the ability of some to benefit from it. The Canadian researchers then moved on to very high postings in the US Academic world and Canadian Government Ministries. The way it effected the mind I found interesting reading. the ingenuity of the human persona never fails to amaze me, this struggle to DO just for the sake of doing or ability to do. What further caught my attention was that in the Canadian experiments there was empathy used and in the US tests later there was not and the US tests by the way they gave predrugs to the recipients and strapping them to the beds and even in the military experiments where they tested subjects with out there knowledge with no empathy at all were in real contrast to the sharing with that took place in Canada tests and so were the results.

I understand what you are saying Graham,we need to remain focussed,focussed on the
idea that consciousness is the key to the Toe,now i shall be busy for the next few days.move to Turkey on friday morning,so will not be able to post much if at all,So Graham,i trust you will keep this thread on topic for me while I am away!Cheers mate.

regards michael.

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick I understand what you are saying Graham,we need to remain focussed,focussed on the idea that consciousness is the key to the Toe,now i shall be busy for the next few days.move to Turkey on friday morning,so will not be able to post much if at all,So Graham,i trust you will keep this thread on topic for me while I am away!Cheers mate. regards michael.

Casaba's, social secrets, bath houses and
funny little hats with tassels .. reminds me of high school ... amazing what a single word can bring to mind .. have fun and bring back some nice stories.

Graham ~Peace!

PS traditional Mediterranean clam chowder server cold with oils and spices ....yomyom see if some nice chef will part with a recipe!

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Hi Graham, TY for the clarification, and for being into such details.

Relax and no fuss really, .... apples to oranges but both are fruit provided what forwarded are not bogus.

Originally Posted by G_burnett uh oh what did i do now ... apples to oranges but both are fruit!

That video demonstrated a dynamo driven by free energy, that's true, and your observation that it accelerates therefore is not a transference factor, this is also valid.

In that video it claims that overunity for magnetism is proven; this is a myth. You should know it by now what drives it, and that inertial force is self explanatory.

It also claims that the technology is patented, and therefore magnetic overunity is scientifically recognized; this is a pesudo truth driven by the myth that feedbacks the support to the claim.

It purports that when the method to harness free energy with this dynamo is perfected in due course, like how computers has improved in all aspect in many generations over time, massed produced to reduce cost, etc, the potential of that gadget to its extend of generating free energy is up to your imaginations. This is an infalsifiable big picture that is very seductive. However, this is a delusion with foresights build on a basis founded in an illusion of knowing and the illusion of having control. What a paradox!

“By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox.” - Galileo Galilei

That dynamo will slow to a halt if you even try to power a small led of miniscular electrical load, and even build that to the best efficiency possible by the size of an average Canadian house, at most it could power up a high efficiency light bulb made with leds for a small study room . The electricity it save would not pay for even a small fraction of the interest incurred to build that dynamo, among there will be other problems it would create.

Faraday's MHD disc dynamo without moving parts is at least more credible, though also not practical.

Originally Posted by G_burnett what caught my attention on the site was the words he stated that the florescent lights were effecting the three static anti clockwise magnets on the outer. So i gave it another thought or two. The movement of the whole thingy being lifted showed no sound variation as might even on that small level where there is gravity to the static mags bearings etal CD drive bearings of the plate indicative of a micro current use .. but thats not here and now .. This directional vectoring of the force I thought may be in view with a nano tec thought with the hanging magnet experiment you mentioned on your site "inertial force" and a sort of and i say again sort of 1st generation of my sandwiched field vectoring of a multi formed field. Again just the mechanics of form composition needed to make the arms my concern and in his case a use of varied spinning field on an axis at different points of a central field ... he may be using a motor in there lol but he has a hobby i believe in "robotic wars" so is quite inventive in nature where i dismissed that thought to see the acceleration factor, and cannot picture a transference factor. apples to oranges but both are fruit! my theorem to get the fields direction right for the torque and simple construction involves the casting of possibly two non interactive materials that will interact with each own having a positive or negative pole but non interacting with the other surface as may be in the transitional fluid state of forces theorem form out there ... or as predominant fields keeping them far enough away from each other using a two arm system ... or forming the surfaces of the arm in the stasis form of the arm in such angled form as to be interactive with the stationary predominate N1N2 fields or spinning/wobbling varied to change N1 axis to the N2 axis and both to initial axis before compression. or as further given you the model showing the arm as a plate having the composition of fluid particle form in transition more like out there ... and or the N1N2 spinning to take it another step however the shape might be still staying predominant mass/fluid/energy/force .... there are multi variations as the pics at your site gives rise to my speculations ... Particle beam emissions, the jet ... could be a side effect to the mechanical compression of the fields even on a small nano model as purposed with no wobble or with the wobble? I don't know and did not want to go there yet for obvious reasons of a personal nature to use in the super accelerators that can be built now a days? Maybe the jet would accelerate transitional particle form ... ? The shape field construction the only concern? Yea i know that is really really out there in paradox to to a lot of science but to some and learning ? Who knows and I will not argue it. I am not one to deny scientific calculation but based on new discoveries every day making the rethinking open ended this is my drummer ... progressive, accelerating and the speed of light is not enough!

.... (see no period!) That should be the way to pursue and investigate.

after thought is I have an egotistical manner of reflection and projection at times, sorry it is the way... Non of this, you are perfectly alright.

For conciousness, for understanding and for unity.

Best regards.

Originally Posted by G_burnett There is a symmetry to it all, a pattern, and when it is conceptional perceived, what then? We move on to enjoy it, and i do not think we were the first nor will be the last come to think of it! I am beginning to empathize with it more and more ... just what is it? I have to see it all sort of thing an refuse to limit the process (see no period!) after thought is I have an egotistical manner of reflection and projection at times, sorry it is the way I am burdened with the mirror. Please by all means be blunt ... Michael keeps me in line at times saying KISS 'keep it simple stupid!' NOT said here sir to you ... Ty Michael! (i forget if i said that to him before.) ~Peace! "unified"(I like that word) Graham.

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Hi again Graham, that bubbling theory for sinking vessel is quite credible, and after seeing you post I went to add more pointers to is, it can be found at the last section in that triangle page, on methane gas hydrates effect coupled with vortical reactions, more a conjecture than it is any fact at all.

Your perception that it is before the vortex event is correct! That underlying hidden inertial force is in precession of oceanic mass. Bring this perception to conciousness you can come to know of how it works.

Spin a gyro and clasp it in your hands, gently rotate and rock it, the force dynamics of precession in this manner can be brought to your conciousness. Imagine your hands are viscous mass wrapping around it, feel the force dynamics interactions on light weight density viscous mass. Do a paradigm shift upward that's how those vortices in the cosmic spawn, then a paradigm shift downward it is how those atomic matters has functioned, albeit the intertia force is of different state in electromagnetic, but with the same working principle.

Nano-tec galaxies, wonderful thought.

Originally Posted by G_burnett There is another thought i have more like a question regards the ocean vortex pool taking down the ships in the triangle? The theorem is out there that the disappearance of vessels predominant to that area is due to the release of trapped gas in monumental cavity collapses on the ocean bed creating a bubbling on the surface where a ship can not float in. Underwater exploration has noted this and recorded the event if I remember correctly. This is not to say a vortex pool would not be created after the event. This intrusive fluid form of change ... in the energy form of the ocean being changed ... can it be imposed on models out there? Nature has so many nano similarities so I would subscribe to yes but where would one start to look for it is the next question, out there I mean.

This internet virtual world is really amazing Graham, it all started from the uncondition giving of Joseph Henry for sharing to the wold his knowledge on electromagnetism that developed into telegraph. And thanks to all for having further the knowledge that we now can interact and even share your wonderful moment in way east Vancover isle, watching the tidal and pondering on UVS issues raised remotely from the other side of the globe.

Warmest regards.

Originally Posted by G_burnett I was watching the tidal bore of the narrows here my way east Vancouver isle today thinking of this. The answer would be before the vortex event? wow what a perception that gave and the questions! Just thought id share the moment. Then i found a small treasure on the beach or rather my wolf dog did, as the high winds the night before left me a half dozen washed up full grown oysters and I was not one to waste the moment ... brunch was grandiose.

[MJA]

Just another Free Energy Thought:

I think one day man will harness the perpetual spinning motion of the magnetic Earth that we live on and create an infinitely clean source of electromagnetic energy. Generating electricity needs only a spinning magnet and a coil of wire. All that is needed to complete this natural Earth generator is some wire.

=
MJA

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by MJA Just another Free Energy Thought: I think one day man will harness the perpetual spinning motion of the magnetic Earth that we live on and create an infinitely clean source of electromagnetic energy. Generating electricity needs only a spinning magnet and a coil of wire. All that is needed to complete this natural Earth generator is some wire. = MJA

Hi MJA

I have given this some though over the years and with all the thingys out there and have pondered what my final theorem was in comparison to what i was seeing as ... just let me say something missing in what I was viewing and perceiving ... my subscription still is in toward the shape of the static mass producing the effect on another static mass/form using not the free energy but the ability of mass containment of energy and in the case of my motor the stored magnetic field being used to create a torque .. If this is the meaning of free to you or just the use in terms of hard cash costs. ... the side effect to my vectoring and vortex movement created would be electricity not the effect i was going for ... in fact I would want to ground it out and use the torque to then transfer the results to a generator ...

But yes we do need a cheap energy made available to the masses but the economic conditions do not seem to favor the concept ... it would be too easy then or something.

Peace! ~unity Graham.

[G_burnett]

Quote "It purports that when the method to harness free energy with this dynamo is perfected in due course, like how computers has improved in all aspect in many generations over time, massed produced to reduce cost, etc, the potential of that gadget to its extend of generating free energy is up to your imaginations. This is an infalsifiable big picture that is very seductive. However, this is a delusion with foresights build on a basis founded in an illusion of knowing and the illusion of having control. What a paradox!" unquote Vincent

Yes lots of thingies .. narrator personality factors impacted me as to lol but food for the thought ... its the attempt that counts for functionality of the human condition learning and moving on... or static and getting bumped to some degree ... power is directed in the human consciousness all the time ... power of intelligence and learned rote for example can smack a fellow on the inside of the head as the audacity factor comes into the equation overruling patience and empathic compassion ... with great power comes great responsibility and this is ethical behavior made manifest ... a learned rote perhaps getting the power or not learned ... that is not a question.

Peace! ~always! Graham

[Vincent Wee-Foo]

Originally Posted by G_burnett ... its the attempt that counts for functionality of the human condition learning and moving on... or static and getting bumped to some degree ... power is directed in the human consciousness all the time ... power of intelligence and learned rote for example can smack a fellow on the inside of the head as the audacity factor comes into the equation overruling patience and empathic compassion .... with great power comes great responsibility and this is ethical behavior made manifest ... a learned rote perhaps getting the power or not learned ... that is not a question.

Dear Garham, very well said. However, what is your thought on that great power will always be met with great responsibility? Before some sort of great awakening can the self-centred human behaviour such as greed be contained? Lets say your dynamo design can work and economy sustainable for mass production, what make you think it is absolutely compatible with nature's plan? Have you ever consider that this might ultimately cause more harm than good for humanity? And repeat that footstep of Mr. E you still cannot forgive?

These questions are raised because I thought you might have some insights or perhaps even the answers, for you have been consciously aware of that and I would be most wanting to hear and gather some pointers from you.

Just to illustrate some points, here is an excerpt from my web page on paradoxical illusions:

California bush fire - The burn of the century
Al Nino effect was blamed for a California bush fire that had raged for weeks and reduced everything to ashes in its wake, in the disaster thousands of houses were lost and many firefighters were among those who have perished in this burn of the century.

A scientific investigation suggested there was a more fundamental cause that had evolved into this monster. Over the years relentlessly, human seems to have overcome nature in its spontaneous bush fires, by enforcing legislation and have had strict measures to suppress all fires quickly to control their spread. However, the successful measures for decades resulted in massive cumulating of combustible materials, heavily stacked by fallen branches, leaves and the likes, layers over layers added on over the years. With the arrival of Al Nino effect affecting climate in a perfectly prepared situation, with a cue probably initiated by lightning strikes, the forest was burned with huge towering fires never witnessed before in history that could not be suppressed, raged for weeks that everything the community have been guarding over many decades were all helplessly up in smokes.

The firefighters thought they knew every aspect of fire, they don't, in all those years they thought they have the situations in control, that was also an illusion. For this case, it took the awe of nature for us to wake up from the paradoxes of our delusions, and realize the real culprit for this burn of the century; our ignorant.

“Nature is relentless and unchangeable, and it is indifferent as to whether its hidden reasons and actions are understandable to man or not.” - Galileo Galilei

Hindsight is always perfect, but can you see it before it is done?

Best regards,

[G_burnett]

Originally Posted by Vincent Wee-Foo Dear Garham, very well said. However, what is your thought on that great power will always be met with great responsibility? Before some sort of great awakening can the self-centred human behaviour such as greed be contained? Lets say your dynamo design can work and economy sustainable for mass production, what make you think it is absolutely compatible with nature's plan? Have you ever consider that this might ultimately cause more harm than good for humanity? And repeat that footstep of Mr. E you still cannot forgive? These questions are raised because I thought you might have some insights or perhaps even the answers, for you have been consciously aware of that and I would be most wanting to hear and gather some pointers from you. Just to illustrate some points, here is an excerpt from my web page on paradoxical illusions: California bush fire - The burn of the century Al Nino effect was blamed for a California bush fire that had raged for weeks and reduced everything to ashes in its wake, in the disaster thousands of houses were lost and many firefighters were among those who have perished in this burn of the century. A scientific investigation suggested there was a more fundamental cause that had evolved into this monster. Over the years relentlessly, human seems to have overcome nature in its spontaneous bush fires, by enforcing legislation and have had strict measures to suppress all fires quickly to control their spread. However, the successful measures for decades resulted in massive cumulating of combustible materials, heavily stacked by fallen branches, leaves and the likes, layers over layers added on over the years. With the arrival of Al Nino effect affecting climate in a perfectly prepared situation, with a cue probably initiated by lightning strikes, the forest was burned with huge towering fires never witnessed before in history that could not be suppressed, raged for weeks that everything the community have been guarding over many decades were all helplessly up in smokes. The firefighters thought they knew every aspect of fire, they don't, in all those years they thought they have the situations in control, that was also an illusion. For this case, it took the awe of nature for us to wake up from the paradoxes of our delusions, and realize the real culprit for this burn of the century; our ignorant. “Nature is relentless and unchangeable, and it is indifferent as to whether its hidden reasons and actions are understandable to man or not.” - Galileo Galilei Hindsight is always perfect, but can you see it before it is done? Best regards,

4:32 AM
Hi Vincent, best regards back for sure;

Very good point to rise. I have a post to do on the other thread that may be better here then and will decide to post maybe a bit later.

Paradox reasoning is from what I define as coming from mind sets based on self determined need, by incomplete conception/perception, of what is "input" made manifest to the persona.

If ones self polished perfect mirror is too clouded by its containment of incomplete data then you will input incomplete partial data stream and reflect less and be seeing less to rational thought and hence project less then needed to a given task.

This mind set failure to do the right thing develops through the lack of the self investigation of truth and please you guys do not come off with the there is no such thing as truth arguments as I speak of the "process compared to being a follower."

In the case of the fires one had a rationalized need to stop all fires. The result was calculated in someone answering the question where does brotherhood lie in a majority form of petition to a power holder. I subscribe to the old adage some things are worth contemplating when asked to join the purported mind set need projected being I a firm believer in the self investigating of truth idiom. ... and the only answer to further depiction of need must be the same some things are worth contemplating ... and then do what has to be done … there is more to that from the north of the Yellow river I would like to hear again.

The one that made the decision to stop all fires could have had many variables that effected the persona decision to sign on and act such as politics or personal gain and false rationalizations of going with the masses as they are always right and this come with the authoritative figure ego and vanity of persona based again on mind set in the learned rote people follow the authoritarian figure without question as a matter of learned rote from childhood.

The pathways are formed so early and yet have I seen one institution that teaches outside that framework.


Mr. E was aware that Germany was developing there own program.
Communications in the circle are always there were and will be.
He did what had to be done in his empathy to the human condition but gave it to the wrong persona and to evaluation for use.
Hindsight being that the power at hand could have been shown to the enemy in a do as I say or else and this was not done over a non populated area for example.
No, there was a personal agenda and this did not happen.
Could E have said I will give you this to be used like this and then set out the rules?
No because he had mind set that gave credence to the good in man will be the rule used.
It was not.

The Rule of Law subject was one of his later only subjects he really gave letter too after the events. After the events on a personal level I too like the subject very much.
And still there is no real rule of law applied to the formula and applicable to the newer findings using it. There is no keeper of the light Vincent that is known to all. But there are keepers of the light. We can understand that I think and maybe others will here to.



All over all the time everywhere I can feel the human condition, empathize with it all, identify with it even to the movement through space at 6700 miles and hour spinning about a thousand more and beyond but without rule of law applied it is nothing I dare touch.

How can we apply rule of law to a development? You have a keeper. The sage persona has always been the keeper. I will blog the other on your other thread.

Get rid of the idea of all these government identities having meaning in this. Deal I say with the individual and with the rule of law that will see what is given not misused. Good term paper project that subject to give to students’ maybe.

Ethics 101, Assignment One, 5000 words, citations expected to all examples given.