Consciousness holds the key. to the T.O.E.

[Guille]

Michael, great idea! before we unite the way forces are viewed (and I have thought that there are just 2 fundamental forces, with "waves" being the result of an on-going balancing act), don't we need to talk about the "wavicle"? I think that matter is just energy slowed down, so what are the implications for light, etc.?

Very true, I also believe matter is (ultimatelly) energy. What do you mean by 'slowed down', does it refer to motion (speed)? As matter gets faster, it becomes energy, that we know thanks to Einstein, so really it should be that matter is when it's slowed down, energy, just that it's 'rest energy'. This would have nothing to do with the energy of E=mc^2, though. I believe we should explain light in terms of neither particle nor wave, nor by both. We should find out somehow a new concept. one thing I wonder is if matter is energy, then how come in QED light destroyes when it enters in contact with matter, is it that matter 'absorbs' the photon's energy (which is actually all of what the photon is)?

[ANDY J]

Do you men that nothing exists outside of mind that without thought there is no universe perhaps this is correct perhaps when someone dies you loose awareness of the universe their fore the universe no longer exists at least not for the individual that died its a bit sad it supposes that at death it is the end or perhaps just the end of the universe that we know in life.
I think energy is the key to all answers the answer is not likely to come until humanity creates its own universe then we will know how our universe was created.

[mkirkpatrick]

Hello Andy,yes energy is the key,and that this theory asserts,that energy is a product of mind!There is no outside of mind,Andy!
Mind is consciousness,and that encompasses all of manfestation.Universally
and locally here on earth.

kind regards michael.

[AntonioLao]

The mind is closer to square of energy, E, than matter is closer to energy by Einstein's mass and energy equivalence E=mc. Then again the square of energy is just a quantized configuration of space-time therefore the mind is really equivalent to the quanta of space-time. Since quanta are independent of each other likewise the subjective independence of all minds.

[Marko]

Michael, I agree that mind is important part of the TOE, but by "mind" I think on our, human mind, self-awareness, and our interpretation of things.
Universe would exist without us, but our "observations" are very important.


However, I havent seen some firm evidences for the theory of the "universal mind" yet.

But I am ready to help you, and best way to do so is try to test this theory.

For the sake of this theory, it is crucial to give a good definition of the "universal mind" , and to give some examples from nature. Testable examples.

Then it is necessary to explain why universal mind and not some other theory?

On which fields this theory fails to give reasnoable explanation, and where is it better than others?

What exactly do you consider under "universal mind"?

Is this a pattern - how things happen, for example - pattern for star formation, pattern for evolution....?

Is this "mind" a capability of something to do some action or to have some property?

regards!

[mkirkpatrick]

Marko.Many thanks for your kind offer to help,the questions you raised,three
in number,I will try and address them.Question 1,What exactly do you consider under universal mind?The answer there is absolutely all.without any
exception whatsoever,else the theory falls flat,and is dead in the water.que-
stion 2,how things happen,is this a pattern,for example,star formation,pattern
for evolution?Within this mindful ideation,are principles,(laws)that have been
"involved" within the consciousness,from the onset of manifestatation,and are
now outworking within the law of evolution,outworking to that pattern of
ultimate self awareness!
Question 3.Is this "mind" a capability of something,to do some action,or to have some property?I am not sure what you mean here?This universal consc-
iousness is not only capable of doing things,it is all things!And in the last anlysis is the Only Thing?What property does it have,all of them?
Hope this helps some what Marko,look forward to your next input in this quest for the TOE.
kind regards michael.

[Unreal Zelta]

mkirkpatrick,
I'd love to join with you and the rest of the members to explore the four fundamental forces, and solve the remaining mysteries.

[mkirkpatrick]

mkirkpatrick,
I'd love to join with you and the rest of the members to explore the four fundamental forces, and solve the remaining mysteries.

Unreal Zelta
you are most very welcome to do so,we need all the collected wisdom of all
those on the Toequest forum,to pool together all we know,to try and solve
this fundamental question of the TOE.So now put your thinking cap on and
add your contribution.

kind regards michael.

The mind is closer to square of energy, E, than matter is closer to energy by Einstein's mass and energy equivalence E=mc. Then again the square of energy is just a quantized configuration of space-time therefore the mind is really equivalent to the quanta of space-time. Since quanta are independent of each other likewise the subjective independence of all minds.

Antonio,does this mean that it can work out?I hope
that it does!


kind regards michael.

[Mohan.C]

The essence of theoretical physics is first to come up with a good idea and then see if the idea holds merit, sometimes through quantification, other times through the sheer logic of presumption. I don't know what makes mathematics anymore valid than logic, since it is not applicable in all areas. We believe in photons, I personally don't know exactly why we do, since they are entirely based on theory and the only way that we have been able to measure them is by way of the energy required to produce the purported evidence. They don't exist by themselves and do not appear spontaneously. They have been established as having no mass and all sorts of inane rationalizations have been presented to explain certain logical inconsistencies, like --- since photons travel at the speed of light they should have infinite mass and exist in a place where time stands still - so they theorize that their acelleration rate from rest to c does not exist, that their acelleration occurs instantaneously, I mean, what an absurd idea! And yet the majority of people still believe in photons. Why? Because light is obvious and darkness isn't? No, because most people are afraid to think!

Baudrunner,
You gave a great post on photons. I think I have got an answer to it. Photons accelerate instantaneously U say I don't think so Photons do not accelerate. Every body can be at rest or in Uniform motion along a straight line this is inertia. I have come up wih an idea that since photons do not exist in a state of rest. The state of inertia for a photon is only one that is uniform motion along a straight line. Please see that it is uniform motion so it does not accelerate It moves with a fixed speed.

I hope this clears it up. More than that this is right I hope.

[Unreal Zelta]

Mohan is right.
Just like Heisenderg said "A particle only come into existence as we observe it", so the relationship between the oberver and a particle (as in the sense photons) is parallel. As for its massless property, the photoelectric effect is quite relavent (it states that a photon can knock electrons off a specific material, so that's means photons must have mass), but on the other hand, anything that has a rest mass can not accelerate to, travel and or exceed the speed of light, so the mediator (photon) must be massless. Although there are still many disputes over this theory, I personally think, we should just add our own interpretations in the theories (your theory is just as good as anyone eles, remember that).