[Mohan.C]

Thank you very much Unreal Zelta!!

[ANDY J]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Hello Andy,yes energy is the key,and that this theory asserts,that energy is a product of mind!There is no outside of mind,Andy! Mind is consciousness,and that encompasses all of manfestation.Universally and locally here on earth. kind regards michael.

Are you saying that the universe is a mind and that all things are maifestations of thoughts of the universe.

[Mohan.C]

Originally Posted by ANDY J Are you saying that the universe is a mind and that all things are maifestations of thoughts of the universe.

Universe is not the conciousness but the conciousness is the universe. Hope you will grasp the subtle difference.

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick does this mean that it can work out?

If and only if we found the secret power of raising dead energy.

[harmonygirl]

Antonio, what is dead energy?

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl what is dead energy?

Maximum entropy which is the same as the heat death when the temperature is exactly at absolute zero. Modern science or the COBE space satellite had detected that not even the vacuum is at absolute zero more like 3 degrees. Another meaning for dead energy is total chaos or complete randomness. But in the science of complexity, order (living useful energy) can arise out of chaos.

[harmonygirl]

I'm not sure I understand. Maximum entropy would still contain potential energy, no? I don't see why chaos would describe dead energy. It is still energetic, just not ordered (annoying to us Type As!)...

[Guille]

I think Antonio means that if there is maximum entropy then there should be maximum time (motion), so all the energy is automatically used up, being constatly converted PE into KE, and mass (which is itself a form of PE) into heat (which is itself a form of KE).

[AntonioLao]

Originally Posted by harmonygirl Maximum entropy would still contain potential energy

I think it is correct to equate mechanical potential energy to thermodynamical or statistical mechanical dead energy and the modern definition of entropy as the differential ratio of heat energy over absolute temperature.

Originally Posted by GUILLE there should be maximum time (motion)

Relatively, maximum entropy stops the flow of time's arrow.

[harmonygirl]

okay, maybe I don't have a correct understanding of entropy. I thought it was maximum inertia? how can it be maximum time? and what does heat have to do with it? (if there is a wikipedia page, please feel free to refer me to it!-maybe this is some of the learning I need to do to catch up to you professional scientists and mathematicians!)