[zeroca]

With the example of mother and brother I wanted to show that it’s not a proving argument if somebody thinks so… even if respected Marketa thinks so. Any assertion must be grounded on some (even on a wrong) basis. I wanted to say that your statement: something is right because you think so, can be wrong itself, but maybe my example wasn’t highly successful.
As for "our earth", I mean the earth-our planet;
As for "turn", I mean to revolve, or to rotate;
As for “axis”, I mean a spindle, an axle (the imaginable axis around which the earth revolves), because, as you know, the earth revolves
1. Around its own axis and
2. Around the sun as well;
Let’s alone the second and analyze only the first one:
If you admit the assertion that the earth revolves around its axis, you must admit the existence of a centrifugal force (vertical to revolving axis) which’s applied to the center and acts inside the earth;
For example: to make a bicycle-wheel, or whirligig to rotate, we must apply a centrifugal force, which’s vertical to revolving axis. (In the first case we manage it by successive pressing the peddles with feet, but in the second-by pressing the end of axis lengthwise)

So the question is: do you admit the existence of such force in example of earth?

[force5]

Hi all;

Sorry, I don't wish to interupt your discussion but, just to add my view of things as I see them.

1. The universe/cosmos is all that exist.
2. The universe/cosmos has always existed.
3. The universe/cosmos will not expand forever.
4. The universe/cosmos will contract when there is no more baryonic matter to fuel the expansion.
5. The universe/cosmos will continue to contract until most of the EMR is reclaimed.
6. The total contraction time will equal the total expansion time.
7. The reclaimation of EMR will produce new baryonic matter.
8. The new baryonic matter will create a cosmic star system that recreates the universe by first creating space/time via EMR.
9. Much like a supernova, the cosmic system will produce a cosmic-nova and the birth of the first baryonic systems. I.E.(heavy elements, galaxies, stars, planets, life, etc.)
10. To create a new cycle, Return to step three.


For whats it's worth, this is the way I see it........John A.

P.S. Non-existence, nothing, zero, nada is not valid at the fundamental level within the "volume" of our existing universe/cosmos.

Hint: Non-existence is necessary for this process to work.

[mkirkpatrick]

To me the universe blinks in and out of existance in an eternal cycle of on and off!


regards michael.