[Omni]

Originally Posted by subversion

So in other words, it may be true that you can't know everything because you can't know nothing.

With nothing I mean EME (Everything minus Everything) and when you also mean that then I must say that's not what I mean when I say that you can never be sure if you have the right TOE. EME is non-existing and therefor not a part of Everything and part of my TOE only as non-existing which it "is". You can't know the right TOE and know it's right, because you'll never be able to observe the whole Everything, because it's infinite.

Originally Posted by subversion

"An analogous way to ask the question is, is nothing full of itself, and is everything full without nothing? "

Nothing (EME) isn't full of anything. It is non-existing. Everything is full of itself. It's all that exists.

[baudrunner]

I'm betting that sub's TOE theory is not a TOE at all, that it is just another stupid subversive idea. I am betting that sub is the one who is afraid, for he has claimed to be what he is not, and we are watching!

[baudrunner]

There are those who say that the TOE will never be revealed. It is quite possible that they are closer to the truth than anyone who professes to know it. And here is the reason why.

The attempt to rationalize existence is done from within the framework of the one cosm which harbours life. That is, the macro-cosm. I have described elsewhere that the expansion of the Universe is actually uniform. It is only perceived to be acellerating because we are on a point which for our purpose we can call fixed. But it is not really. And yet the visible evidence for the superluminal acellerating expansion can be observed/explained two ways...

1. The Universe is determined to be about 13.7 billion years old. Also, the universe is determined to be about 156 billion light years in diameter. If light-speed were an absolute limit then the very largest size that the Universe could be would be twice the radius of 13.7 billion light years, or 27.4 billion light years in diameter. That does not appear to be the case.

2. The rubber band experiment. A snipped rubber band of six inches in length with dots drawn on the one inch, two inch, and five inch marks stretched uniformly to twice its length will see an increase in the distance of the formerly five inch dot now being six inches from the middle dot where before it was only three inches, and of the first dot now only two inches from the middle dot where before it was one inch from it. This is an example of uniform expansion giving the illusion that the farther dot from the center dot travelled faster away from the center dot than the first dot but that is not actually the case. However, from the perspective of the first and second dots that is the case.

So you see, we can never see the whole picture because reality is just an illusion, and conforms to the way that we perceive it. I predict that you, sub, will just continue to bait the audience with an empty hook. Or, perhaps you could begin be explaining the phenomenon of the uniform expansion of the Universe giving rise to actual superluminal velocities. If you admit that you cannot, I will be happy to make the attempt.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by Omni

With nothing I mean EME (Everything minus Everything) and when you also mean that then I must say that's not what I mean when I say that you can never be sure if you have the right TOE. EME is non-existing and therefor not a part of Everything and part of my TOE only as non-existing which it "is". You can't know the right TOE and know it's right, because you'll never be able to observe the whole Everything, because it's infinite.


Nothing (EME) isn't full of anything. It is non-existing. Everything is full of itself. It's all that exists.

Hmmm.... interesting. So your solution to Walstad's paradox is that nothing does not form a meaningful part of everything, and it does not necessarely contain itself. I see.

But what you said about not being able to know the TOE does not filter. For example, you have said that you can't view everything at once. That however does not mean that you cannot understand everything in theory.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by baudrunner

I'm betting that sub's TOE theory is not a TOE at all, that it is just another stupid subversive idea. I am betting that sub is the one who is afraid, for he has claimed to be what he is not, and we are watching!

Thank you for proving my point once again Baud that humans are pessimistic and thus do not deserve the knowledge I have obtained through optimism. If you are waiting for me to prove you wrong, I will not do that, because I don't believe it is nice to prove people wrong. I will only exercise my right to prove people right, and that's just because I'm a nice person. So if everybody thinks I am wrong, then I will prove them right for their satisfaction. If on the otherhand everybody thinks I am right, then I will gladly prove that to everybody's satisfaction. So be wise when you choose what you wish for, and be sure to consider what is the absolute best possibility?

ps. the only thing that I am afraid of is that everybody will not give everybody a chance in the world

[baudrunner]

There are those who say that the TOE will never be revealed. It is quite possible that they are closer to the truth than anyone who professes to know it. And here is the reason why.

The attempt to rationalize existence is done from within the framework of the one cosm which harbours life. That is, the macro-cosm. I have described elsewhere that the expansion of the Universe is actually uniform. It is only perceived to be acellerating because we are on a point which for our purpose we can call fixed. But it is not really. And yet the visible evidence for the superluminal acellerating expansion can be observed/explained two ways...

1. The Universe is determined to be about 13.7 billion years old. Also, the universe is determined to be about 156 billion light years in diameter. If light-speed were an absolute limit then the very largest size that the Universe could be would be twice the radius of 13.7 billion light years, or 27.4 billion light years in diameter. That does not appear to be the case.

2. The rubber band experiment. A snipped rubber band of six inches in length with dots drawn on the one inch, two inch, and five inch marks stretched uniformly to twice its length will see an increase in the distance of the formerly five inch dot now being six inches from the middle dot where before it was only three inches, and of the first dot now only two inches from the middle dot where before it was one inch from it. This is an example of uniform expansion giving the illusion that the farther dot from the center dot travelled faster away from the center dot than the first dot but that is not actually the case. However, from the perspective of the first and second dots that is the case.

So you see, we can never see the whole picture because reality is just an illusion, and conforms to the way that we perceive it. I predict that you, sub, will just continue to bait the audience with an empty hook. Or, perhaps you could begin be explaining the phenomenon of the uniform expansion of the Universe giving rise to actual superluminal velocities. If you admit that you cannot, I will be happy to make the attempt.

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Start here, Sub. Stop giving us empty rhetoric and meaningless diatribe.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by baudrunner

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Start here, Sub. Stop giving us empty rhetoric and meaningless diatribe.

How dare you call my principles empty. Where are your principles?? Anyhow, there is no need for me to act intelligently because I am not being treated as such by people like you who say that "oooohhh subversion just probably has some stupid idea." Well guess what, it shows how much you know. Well what you expect from me is exactly what you will get. So if you say something like, "say Sub, maybe you really have discovered the TOE and people are just being ignorant in their apprehension of you and everything. Maybe people don't appreciate what you've come for, because they don't understand the meaning. But we want to understand, so please tell us." Then maybe, just MAYBE, I'll let you know

[Omni]

Originally Posted by subversion

For example, you have said that you can't view everything at once. That however does not mean that you cannot understand everything in theory.

I said: "because you'll never be able to observe the whole Everything, because it's infinite.". Let's say I watch the whole now visible Everything then I know it goes on further than that infinite. When I a few years later watch the whole then visible universe I will see a larger part of everything, but also then I would know it goes on further than that infinite etc.. neverending story. Viewing Everything at once isn't possible. Viewing Everything is by definition (Everything is infinite) impossible and therefor also in theory you can never understand Everything. You can take a wild guess, but that's as far as you're gonna get.

[subversion]

Originally Posted by Omni

Viewing Everything at once isn't possible. Viewing Everything is by definition (Everything is infinite) impossible and therefor also in theory you can never understand Everything. You can take a wild guess, but that's as far as you're gonna get.

Again, I fully appreciate and respect your opinion, as I do everybody's. But I'm still going to have to maintain that whether or not we can see everything at once has nothing to do with whether we can understand Everything at once. Although I do see how that would seem logical. It is entirely possible to create a theory of everything and I have been able to prove it to my own satisfaction.

Cheers!

[Omni]

Originally Posted by subversion

and I have been able to prove it to my own satisfaction.

I'm satisfied and at peace with my TOE also. For me it covers everything as we know it and I haven't heard/seen/read anything that made me doubt it, but because of the reasons I already mentioned I don't consider it to be proven right or wrong. Sometimes I FEEL it's right. I did when I just discovered it and it still feels good, but logic says it's just a possibility no more.. no less. If you eventually decide to share your TOE I will be an interested reader. If not, I will know you'll have your reasons which are legit to you and that's fine by me. It's your TOE. You decide.