T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[Drifter]

I still wake up to a beautiful Sunrise, agreeable and disagreeable things arise during the day and at night the sun still sets, and if cut I bleed. But all this happens to the dream character's shifting about in dream, and the dreamer enjoys it, I just woke up to this illusory reality 5 or 6 years ago and it's like lucid living(to borrow the phrase) I see hte dream for what it is and what it is not, Reality.

You have struck a very resonant chord in me melanie, thank you dear.
finally, some music to my ears . . . thank you love.

hi drifter , isn't this reality both illusional and real without any divisions between the two .. no edges, borders, etc ..just this ..

any concept label or denfinition falling short of describing the undescribable.

the proof of anything would be unprovable .. the proof being just this what is here now .. aren't the many mansions that jesus talked about just the metaphors for what is in every human heart to be experienced here on earth now .. and that people are being born again here on earth now ..the people who know who they really are and are not .. what do you think drifter ..

melanie..

[melanie]

I still wake up to a beautiful Sunrise, agreeable and disagreeable things arise during the day and at night the sun still sets, and if cut I bleed. But all this happens to the dream character's shifting about in dream, and the dreamer enjoys it, I just woke up to this illusory reality 5 or 6 years ago and it's like lucid living(to borrow the phrase) I see hte dream for what it is and what it is not, Reality.

You have struck a very resonant chord in me melanie, thank you dear.
finally, some music to my ears . . . thank you love.

it's nothing .. thank-you too drifter..


melanie..

[Drifter]

Always ___Remember, this is physic's. (perception)
Meta=Divide the physical. (Apperception)

and That's exactly the point and one that would do you swell to remember

[melanie]

Always ___Remember, this is physic's. (perception)
Meta=Divide the physical. (Apperception)

and That's exactly the point and one that would do you swell to remember

[Apperception] .. beautiful word ..

once seen never forgotten it was us all along .. nothing to prove ..it's all self evident .. self being the operative word


melanie..

[N0B0DY]

Again, Lloyd, you prove that you don't know what you're talking about.

First, you contradictorily claim that someone who believes in nothing is a believer; and, second, metaphysics is a first-philosophical study of fundamental substance (FS) which delves into Aristotle's unmoved mover, the cause of motion. All of which is the topic of the thread, i.e., no beliefs, and absolute stillness required for differential quanta.

So, again, if you are serious about studying what you believe that you know, and are able to contribute without denigrating what you don't understand, I'm all ears.

If this, though: "BTW, there is no absolute one, as one, and none is just meta's exaggerated imagination. It can't exist, period, as it would be FS, to the limits of all."[Yeah, then get your head around the true counter-intuitive complexities, and quit complaining...]" where the point is that they equate to the same state, and you misinterpret it as something else, then you should consider to stop embarrassing yourself.

You "know," Lloyd, following your logic, the atom should be the smallest-possible particle because they "knew" that it was. Yeah, believing in things can lead to all sorts of misconceptions when based on limited observations of empirical and theoretical science. Whereas metaphysics is the "ki" to liberty.

[Drifter]

"What Light through yonder window breaks"

[Apperception] .. beautiful word ..

once seen never forgotten it was us all along .. nothing to prove ..it's all self evident .. self being the operative word


melanie..

[neutralino]

First, you contradictorily claim that someone who believes in nothing is a believer;

Surely such a person is a believer: they believe in the concept of nothing!

[N0B0DY]

A concept of nothing equates to a non-existent concept, in the absolute sense, neutralino; and that is how the absolute center of motion is proven to be absolute stillness, and how the one equates to none.

The topic is absolute one or absolute none, not a binary system of relativity. My claim remains, as per dictionary definitions, that relative and absolute are opposites.

The only true belief is letting go of all beliefs, similar to the paradoxical set of all sets don't you think? Now if you wish to equate the former to a belief, then whatever toots your horn, bud...wuwei and all is done.

[melanie]

Surely such a person is a believer: they believe in the concept of nothing!

the opposite is also true .. ..there is no-one to believe .. there is just this .. every-thing and no-thing .. it's tricky ..


melanie..

[neutralino]

The only true belief is letting go of all beliefs, similar to the paradoxical set of all sets don't you think? Now if you wish to equate the former to a belief, then whatever toots your horn, bud...wuwei and all is done.

What are you talking about? What is wuwei?

Anyway, you say the only true belief is.... You have thus defined anything you say after that statement as a belief. Q.E.D