T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[melanie]

Thank you for the Absolutely Lovely Poem.
Alll That and a kiss of Sunshine?
Too much,
Love to love ya Love .

thank-you too .

there is no one to know knowledge .. knowlege is known , but we think it's us that knows .. we are just the receptors and experiencers of knowledge ..
no-one has any authority on any- thing because there are no-things .. just the appearance of things ..all knowledge therefore is secondary it is conceptual be(LIE)f .. a professor in his field of study is just
the 'one known' playing that part as the professor of it's field ..

does my cat wonder about the mystery of the universe ? no! ..it just wants feeding ..

melanie..

[N0B0DY]

"the rapture is hidden in plain view, we will either resonate with this chord or not ..but it is a constant ..

"having said that, nothing changes, there will still be wars, peace, famine ,riches, poverty, laughter, tears, it is impossible to be any other way in duality ..

"true happiness is a neutral point between the opposites of duality .. from this point the whole being may or may not spring forth .."

Are you sure you're not Austin Torn, Melanie? You have a great way at expressing my thoughts.

The wars, famine, poverty, tears as by products of perfection apparently are based on a lack of knowledge of consequences, and history repeating itself. If there is nothing preventing the "eternal return," doesn't that equate to the return being eternal? If all is just a dream made real, what would prevent a better dream to be made real?

What I propose is too abstract for some people, but if the universe were to be literally existent, it would be impossible for it to function the way it does - in layers of refinement. A literal absolute one universe could only be one undifferentiable density and motion, which would have to exist within all the variables observed.

To realize that the absolute center of the universe is non-existent and is required for relative existence to manifest, reveals what is required to merge with the "one" who knows all consequences instead of continually riding the sequences of the con artist who doesn't.

[melanie]

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[nobody quotes]
What I propose is too abstract for some people, but if the universe were to be literally existent, it would be impossible for it to function the way it does - in layers of refinement. A literal absolute one universe could only be one undifferentiable density and motion, which would have to exist within all the variables observed.

To realize that the absolute center of the universe is non-existent and is required for relative existence to manifest, reveals what is required to merge with the "one" who knows all consequences instead of continually riding the sequences of the con artist who doesn't.
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NOBODY .. you're reasoning is very sound .. the theory of nothing 'IS' by definition abstract , existence by it's very nature is abstract ..
the centre being nothing, empty, causeless, a container .. from which everything springs forth .. it is pure eternal awareness everywhere and nowhere, all knowing, all encompassing, all pervading ..
consciousness is an aspect of this eternal awareness ..consciouness being relative .. pure awareness being absolute .. both being one and the same ..
the causeless eternal circle of unbroken nothingness in which everything arises and returns .. a continuous recycling process ..


our very existence is but a dream in awareness ..our thoughts, emotions, feelings, are all just appearances in a dream, dreamed by no-one,
our brain has already processed our thoughts before there is any reaction by us .. so it is not us reacting .. but we think it is us .. due to ignorant conditioning..
when we dream at night .. the characters in the dream are not real ..
in the awake state everything feels real,our reality is but appearances appearing on our screen of awareness .. it is real and unreal ..simultaneously ..
nothing is real and nothing is unreal ..it just is..here are some zen quotes ..

….within a lucid dreaming
one is being born with the Knowingness
one is never ever being born……paradox .. both yes and no ..

"There comes a state when the Zen practitioner is able to view everything as a synthesis of opposites that arise from one another. All rational judgments become irrelevant and one starts viewing reality intuitively as it actually is—nothingness that is complete in itself, much like an empty circle."


When all things return to the One, even gold loses its value. But when the One returns to all things, even the pebbles sparkle.


ps, no i'm not austin.. lol .. btw there will be many people that will not get this because it is only seen with a simple mind .. many minds are too complicated today .. it is also known as grace ..
but it is still the ''one pure awareness'' playing all those parts as some people understanding and some people not understanding .. all is perfect in ''oneness'' .. it's all just a magic mysterious illusion.. a zen trick of the mind ..

melanie..

[N0B0DY]

"nothing is real and nothing is unreal ..it just is.."

This is the nearly bird that always gets caught in the worm hole. Neither/nor; therefore not, but then proclamations of "isness" abound that put labels on the undifferentiated state. It is the root of the one and many paradox resolved as one = none = done.

Most excellent response and read, Melanie.

[austintorn@aol.com]

In the Timeless-Formless, everything had to be,
all at once,
for there were no laws or constraints.

The one sums to the none;
All is done but the fun.

[mkirkpatrick]

"nothing is real and nothing is unreal ..it just is.."

This is the nearly bird that always gets caught in the worm hole. Neither/nor; therefore not, but then proclamations of "isness" abound that put labels on the undifferentiated state. It is the root of the one and many paradox resolved as one = none = done.

Most excellent response and read, Melanie.

Wonderful stuff brother Nobody!IT IS as IT IS?



regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

OH, but IT's not!

[sillysally]

In the Timeless-Formless, everything had to be,
all at once,
for there were no laws or constraints.

The one sums to the none;
All is done but the fun.

My older daughter has lucid dreams, on some nights she and I share the same dream, but it's her that controls them, I'm just a guest in her house. It's funny when we discuss the same dream in the morning, I wonder if those robber men that always break into the house have the same dream she controls.

I'm sure people I don't know have dreams with me in them, just as I do with them.

[N0B0DY]

Exactly, Sally, it's all connected.

Newton's absolute space and time equals absolute speed which equals instantaneous action/reaction; whereas space and time are relative to the gravitational time dilation of variable velocities of the speed of light.

Correlated to consciousness: unconsciousness with the absolute space-time frame; subconsciousness with the relative functioning due to an infinite number of relative velocities based on the wave function; and consciousness to the finite observable universe based on the wave collapse.

[sillysally]

Exactly, Sally, it's all connected.

Newton's absolute space and time equals absolute speed which equals instantaneous action/reaction; whereas space and time are relative to the gravitational time dilation of variable velocities of the speed of light.

Correlated to consciousness: unconsciousness with the absolute space-time frame; subconsciousness with the relative functioning due to an infinite number of relative velocities based on the wave function; and consciousness to the finite observable universe based on the wave collapse.

lol, all that just to share a dream with someone. I liked the night I woke up asking her a question in my sleep and she answered sleeping! But when we had the same dream, we weren't even on the same floor of the house so we weren't talking to each other in our sleep.