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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    One other thing Lode, think about everything being inside of everything. If an absolute is inside of itself, then it is outside of itself as well. That means it becomes relative. It can't be in two places at once.
    I agree, everything cannot really be in two places at once, because that would be redundant. That's like calling 1/0 2/0. It's true, but redundant.

    Now I admit, it's also redundant to say that everything contains everything. However, it is necessary to solve Russell's paradox. And furthermore if everything contains everything then it all exists at one point. So that means it is absolute. Everything contains only itself, that which is defined, so therefore everything is the definition of absolute existence. Nothing doesn't necessarely contain or not contain itself since nothing is undefined, and that is the definition of absolute non-existence.

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Where is the "freedom of movement and plurality" if everything contains everything (everything is contained at one absolute point)?

    As an aside, I'm not sure it's a good idea to try to solve any of the paradox's, theories, etc. I personally think it's better to start with a blank slate and use imagination and logic, and see what one comes up with. Then, see how it affects what has come before.
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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody
    Based on physics, you're absolutely correct regarding an absolute finite singularity expanding into infinite space.
    Why is space infinite and everything else finite?
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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Where is the "freedom of movement and plurality" if everything contains everything (everything is contained at one absolute point)?
    there is no freedom of movement when you consider everything as one absolute point of existence, 1/0. Or rather, there is all motion at once. This happens when the universe is expanding at greater than lightspeed at less than planck scales. Right now we are existing in a state of 0/0, not 1/0. That is because the apparent expansion of time, which is really just an inverse lorentz transformation that is happening in all directions at once, has not become absolute yet. When it doess there will be no freedom of motion and the universe will become absolute, an eternal instantaneous moment known as 1/0. To an observerer outside of this moment the universe will begin running backwards to complete the cycle, but to an observer inside this moment it will last for eternity. 0/0 is that which allows the cycle to continue and time to constantly change. 1/0 is just one point on the circle which represents the moment of eternity and the absolute greatest value. Remember, 1/0 is the timelessness of time, not time itself. 0/0 is time itself, that which allows for freedom of movement as you say. 0/0 is a state of flux between 0/1 and 1/0, and that is what creates time. Think of time as a perfectly balanced imbalance between nothing and everything that causes constantly changing perpetual motion in order to try and reach equillibrium (or a state of absolute motion, 1/0) and you'll have an idea of what our technology will be based on in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    As an aside, I'm not sure it's a good idea to try to solve any of the paradox's, theories, etc. I personally think it's better to start with a blank slate and use imagination and logic, and see what one comes up with. Then, see how it affects what has come before.
    I totally agree, you have to start with first principles. That is why I discovered the theory of 1/0 first and then realized how it solves Russell's paradox. As well I saw how it sheds light on the Incompleteness Theorem and also the Axiom of Choice. It was only after the fact.

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Remember, 1/0 is the timelessness of time, not time itself. 0/0 is time itself, that which allows for freedom of movement as you say.
    How about including the "spacelessness and masslessness" at 1/0 and thinking of 0/0 as the reflective departing point of the "appearance" of all three?
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    Smile Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Remove the zero,remove the one,remove all reference to any number,there is no zero,
    there is no one,what then is there?

    Well life of course!And life just IS!

    We are life,life is all there is,full stop.The theory of nothing,is no more than a fictional
    musing for intellectuals to indulge themselves,while inventing yet another theory,to indulge themselves in!


    regards michael.
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    reveal herself?

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick View Post
    Remove the zero,remove the one,remove all reference to any number,there is no zero,
    there is no one,what then is there?[Michael, The Happy Illogical Trickster!]

    Well life of course!And life just IS!

    We are life,life is all there is,full stop.The theory of nothing,is no more than a fictional
    musing for intellectuals to indulge themselves,while inventing yet another theory,to indulge themselves in!


    regards michael.
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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    No, no hammer Eric, just don't be quite so sensative. I realize I'm rude once in a while. But anyway, I wish you would infer something real into your logic other than the assume of your ego. You can't infer emotions into logic and get anything out but other false emotions, iff trying to discuss science and math. Even the early Indians realized this 2500 years ago. For logic to have any meaning it must have real object inferences and definitions, inferred in. The same goes for "Absolute", "Spirit", "Mind," "Mythos", etc., on and on___they are undefined___they being undefined, when inferred into logic, only produce dellusional illogicalities and more "Mythos", not the "Logos", we're all looking for. It may be fine for your private language high entropy ego, but has little relationship to low entropy truth. The TOE will only be solved by the absolute finite truth of infinity...

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Yes, with the emphasis on "apparent". That's why I say that the finite is what appears to happen, while the infinite that rules it, says it doesn't actually happen. Therefore, "will happen". A universe of potential only.[I wish you'd connect just a bit of logic to object, instead of personal opinion___once in a while. The universe of potential you refer to is earth's noosphere omega point potential___not really the universe's potential___it's finite potential, we must be concerned with most___as humans. It's coming. Be patient. We're talking about the universe, not personal emotions___that's michael's domain.]

    These two dimensionless points and the center, being actual existence. The universe being apparent existence, and the only thing that does not exist is absolutely nothing.[Try sitting in a field with a 100 mega-ton H-bomb, when it explodes. Is it real fusion of points and centers or not? You are now stardust___the only indistructable matter___the basic elemental traces of the finite in the absolute infinite.]

    One other thing Lode, think about everything being inside of everything. If an absolute is inside of itself, then it is outside of itself as well. That means it becomes relative.[No, that means it is absolute___in both places at once.] It can't be in two places at once.[False___Infinity is everywhere in and out of the finite, and of itself.] If we want to talk about a 0 inside a 1 or a 0/1 inside a 1/0, we can then talk about an absolute that is not inside of itself, but contains a "false" absolute inside of itself at it's center.[The only false absolute is your illogical logic trickster___quit playing, and do real science___for once in your life.]

    There's a world of difference. One absolute is true and the other false. When we look inside we find the false one, which points outward all the way to the true one. All the way past everything.[Like I said___ozone man! Eric, come down to earth___the absolute finite.]

    Eric
    How's that, enough?
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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Lloyd,

    "Absolutely nothing is impossible – something absolute just is."

    I stated this and explained why, in my second post. You were just thinking about yourself when you glossed over it.

    Like Michael said, remove the numbers and anything else and start from IS.

    Or would you like to start with "absolutely nothing is possible"?

    There's only two possible starting points for a TOE.

    This second one has not one more word to say for itself.

    The first one can then make a statement along the lines of "and because there is an existent absolute, therefore... etc. etc. etc.

    The problem is that you are afraid to "self-ignite". I'll bet it affects your personal life as well. It's sad, actually.
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    and if your relatives are anything like mine...!"

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nobody View Post
    Lloyd,

    Based on physics, you're absolutely correct regarding an absolute finite singularity expanding into infinite space. An all-inclusive energy of absolute motion and temperature brought down to nearest-possible zero, etc., etc., but that/those absolutes aren't as you're well aware what I'm referring to. I said before that I don't argue relativity with relativists concerning observable evidence, but I compare it to the visible-light spectrum and that which is beyond that range - in effect invisible but following proportionate laws.[I've already said the same exact thing.]

    You remind me of Setterfield in that both hypotheses conform to present evidence, which is understandable, but neither extend that evidence to logically conclude the result of the implications of the evidence. You have a low-entropy infinity and he has the zpe, but both neglect the means whereby low-entropy infinity and zpe can result outside of the "known" universe.[Nobody, they can't and don't.]

    If we invoke the Uncertainty Principle and pinpoint an absolute position of any particle, velocity is then infinite proportionate to the exactness of the measurement. We can then invoke an infinite number of monopolar non-dimensional points as representing central axes that emit photons "travelling" at an infinite speed,[Even standard quantum mechanics only allows c^2] proportionate to the obvious decrease in Planck's constant, which create the fundamental electron/positron-hydrogen atom through photonic interactions/collisions - needless to say it is not localized or finite, but obviously occurs "everywhere."[No, I disagree. It is localized and finite. Finite is not a measurement of infinite. Infinite is a not a measurement of finite. This distance can only be represented by a sliding time scaler wave transition from one quantum state to the other. Infinite does not designate velocity, but infinite amount, size, quantity, quality, motion. I think this is where you are confusing the two space-time fields of linear and angular/linear.] So there is no inflation or big bang necessary because we are invoking an eternal process within the absolute perspectives of one static infinite space, which equals zero kelvin; and no space-time at all, which equals zero kelvin.[And here Nobody, I stated just barely above zero kelvin, to allow one degree of motion, since any sane individual would logically deduct, if comparing a high entropy field of 3.7k to one of extremely low entropy cold, lacking the 3.7k. Not meaning to be sarcastic, sorry. Nobody, without big bang, where would your idea of infinite linear motion, acrete to finite angular/linear motion___and how? Please explain your physics dynamics. I can see not other, as the quantum foam is required to be mythos, due to the reality of a low entropy beginning. Absolute zero k explodes not one damn thing. Look at 3.7k, it's harmless and weak to the known universe. Why do you think a few degrees lower would be so violent?]

    The relative speed that you touched upon is buried within the zero and one, which Setterfield suggests is dependent upon the rate of absorption and emission of photons through what he refers to as virtual particles that can account for the cmbr as they annihilate in lieu of being accounted for from a pre-existent big bang occurence. Yet, what is not inferred is that the creation of those particles themselves is due to photonic interactions based on the zero-point monopoles.[The only monopole is the active motion of infinity's thermo-hydro-dynamic implosion, being a mono-pole-istic motion, which with enough years, say 10^100, has a pretty good start on an absolutely existing monopole singularity, already in quantimizing mode___then maybe radiation through real quantum tunneling and finally pop, just like the many super-novas already filmed and known. One must take into account all the centrifical, centrifipetal, and centrifugal forces, that would have existed in such a dynamic weather system, lasting 10^100 years.] It is a one-sided definition, just as is your definition of low entropy from only inside the singularity outward toward infinity.[No, my definition of low entropy was first discovered by asking myself, what is cold. No physicist can or wants to answer it. What is your definition of cold? What is the speed of true dark infinite motion? These and other questions lead to my conclusions, then I worked them into a real possible physics model___not the other way around. If you want the other side of the definition, the return trip of motion/matter, I'd be glad to give it. It's just I feel this side must be understood more thoroughly first, in order to understand the other side. The other side, put simply, is a massive weather system forming into the first singularity___the dark matter/motion/energy side.]

    1-1=0 in the form of the finite false vacuum plus the infinite true vacuum (finite measurement inclusive) cancelling to zero leaves the unchangeable true vacuum. And this doesn't negate reality or existence, just proposes an alternate view based on the illusory means of motion incrementally recreating "particles" through static/non-existent space.[Nobody, it also is not within any logic known to anyone but you.] This latter view never presupposes a literal, localized space-time for any finite singularities to materialize, but being based on empirical studies of photonic interactions at a particularly high temperature,[Where does high temperature come from in a known low entropy infinite cold space?] extends that evidence to infinite proportions to logically conclude that your state of low entropy contains infinite power instead of merely the finite power of the finite high-entropy singularity.[Simply put, if high entropy evolves to low entropy, how is that more power for infinity, the low entropy is an increased but dispersed power. True, at absolute infinite only low entropy, it has all the power, low entropy power. Low entropy, here, has invested all its power in high entropy, depleting much of its power, by dividing itself into low and high. It's only simple logic. The entropy of low entropy decreases with the increase of the entropy of high entropy___it's a simple opposite and equal action/reaction motion___equilibriating both. Remember, the entire system is a singularity of motions, not motion, of the one infinite space___many, many linear waves of motions___in all inward centripetal and centrifugal directions, also creating centrifical linear motions, rotations, etc., on and on___to first singularity.]

    The redshifting, what I propose is Zeno-paradoxical, results from only one scenario of an infinite number which is based upon the energy density that redshifts the light. The denser the medium, the more the light redshifts, and the cause is illusory time dilation instead of distance through literal expansion.
    [This could very well be true, to the light system locked observer, and seems reasonable___I agree. But sound logic can go far beyond cmbr and its true radiation, also, off into infinity, never for finiteness to recover it, until the next scientific cycly of the entire universe. And herin lies the true mechanics of the universe___the radiation that is absolutely escaping beyond finite's sustainability. In time it all radiates away, and then comes back as a new universe.]

    Sincerely,
    Lloyd

    p.s.
    Keep up the great critique. It's the only process to create reality...
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