T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[Eric]

Lode,

Good one.

1/0 is nothing less than the number of God, if you want to think about it that way. It does exist, but as Eric so correctly pointed out, it is somewhat beyond description. Even so, it is not something we can't necessarely understand, and therefore it is not necessarely undefined. It just depends on what you mean when you say undefined. Undefined in a good way or undefined in a bad way?

We can logically get to God from here, but when we arrive, we realize it's invisible. So, as you say, it is defined as undefined (invisible). Yes, this can be considered good or bad. Most people would consider it bad, because they need an "image" to relate to.

Here's an interesting aside. Since the "Absolute object" is invisible, we can see right through it, to see that "absolutely nothing" is impossible. Which, of course, means "Something Absolute" just is.

Don't tell anybody, but it's the "proof of God" that has always been thought impossible.

A TOE needs proof of God. As Hawking "almost" correctly points out, a complete theory needs to know the "why" and know the "mind of God".

I would disagree with this, simply because the only way one can know it's the mind of God, is to know you are standing right next to God. There is no way to know this is so, unless you can logically prove there is no outside to where you are standing.

Then, with a few careful steps of logic, matter and all the rest of it, can be seen for what it really is.

Eric

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Absolute matter has an outside.[Sorry Eric, you are dead wrong. The matter absolute does not have an outside, because it is the all___infinito...]
There is more than one of them.[Again wrong, as we are now talking about the absolute, and there is only one absolute matter___the quantum chameleon.]
Absolute matter does not have an inside.[The quantum chameleon is absolute trickster, yet factizable with the laws of physics, not foolish mythos.]

We are a universe apart from agreeing, but it doesn't matter.

You know Eric, mathematicians have for centuries said it is also impossible to divide infinity by infinity, without ending up with infinity. Well herein lies the false truth of all mathematics, since the real universe divides one zero infinity into one infinity and creates all finiteness and the biological state of your/our/my minds. So when you learn how the universe's state of no mind accomplishes this simple feat, you have graduated to true mathematics of whole and part.

Why have quantum mechanicists ignored the two most important forces to quantum mechanics___the centrifugal and the centrifusal forces that must exist to quantimize anything, star, etc., into singularity?

1.Infinity divided by infinity is the absolute false truth of everything.

2.The law of no law is the law of all law___the absolute matter.

3.The "Mythos" is infinity divided by infinity equals not anything. The "Logos Truth" is it does divide and produce finiteness___it exists from the necessary to the necessary.

4.The universal cold quantum principle___The cold quantum requires infinity linear low entropy to exist. Where else does cold come from? Tis the absolute necessity of all existence. Where does the cold quantum come from if not infinity___the absolute state of matter___the true absolute?

5.0k. can exist as there exists no quantum angular molecular motion to slow down or stop at the absolute. Matter's absolute state can be 0k___its very essence___Remember matter is the quantum chameleon.

6.The absolute truth is the truth of the false___eliminate the false ideas and absolute truth falls out.

7.1infinity divided by 0infinity = E Everything___infinity + finiteness.

8.Infinity undividable by infinity is the absolute false truth of everything. Infinity divided by infinity = F finiteness___and is true because it exists.

9.The mathematicians are wrong to say infinity can not be divided by infinity and equal anything but infinity___as the absolute truth is infinitely divided by itself___and equals finiteness.

10.The universal mathematics principle___The math of finite creation is the mathematics of the finite decay.

11.No mind exists beyond the no mind state.

12.The low entropy linear state permeates the high entropy angular/linear state.

13.Infinity is divided by infinity to create finiteness___eternally.

14.At the absolute state of the absolute___you have to have a container, to have a brain/mind___no container exists to the unbeyond.

15.Thermo-hydro-dynamics requires infinity to be a circle by its imploding, compressing, centripetal, centrifical, centrifugal, and centrifusal mono-pole-istic necessities.

16.Where does low cold entropy come up with a brain/mind?___Only in the finite biosphere, where brained organisms were first created.

17.The Boolean thermal switch of the universe___Absolutely everything is just a thermal switch from low entropy cold to high entropy hot and back again, and again, on and on, to eternity.

18.The absolute is a fluid matter that acts like energy at low entropy, and like solid matter and energy at high entropy.

19.1/0 is the no-mind all-mind mathematics state of everything = E.

20.Absolutely all "Mythos" and "Logos" is produced in the finite biosphere age.

21.The absolute fluid matter produced "Mythos" in the finite singularity of biosphere.

22.The universal circuitry[no electricity though] is the land of the law of no law___the no mind state.

23.The absolute TAO is the absolute matter producing mind TOE.

24.Solid finite matter decays to fluid infinite matter.

25.The infinitely huge divided by the infinitely small equals everything___E___1/0=E.

You have a choice___the biosphere creation of a sensible human mind, or the universe no mind state of insanity.

I bid you all good day,
Lloyd

[Nobody]

If by space you mean empty I agree, it doesn't exist.

I don't mean empty, which implies a 4-dimensional construct, I mean non-dimensional non existence.

If you truely consider that 1/0 is the definition of everything, you will see very clearly that it means that everything is more than infinite. For just as 0 is less than 1/infinity, so too 1/0 is more than infinity. Do you see?

I see what you mean, Lode, but you're mistaken. The infinitesimal to the infinite is all that can "exist" - illusively. Once we attempt to go beyond infinity, and proclaim we've found absolute zero or one or one divided by zero, is the moment we're wrong. The zero merely represents the non-existence of the absolute. In other words, I have no problem with what Lloyd is inferring, only with how his explanation is represented - in relative terms which supports physics, which is why I can't communicate with him, hence the language barrier. I'm interested more in metaphysics and philosophy than physics.

if 1/0=everything
then it means that everything*0=1
not that everything*1=0

you straight up got your algebgra wrong. Do you remember when I explained to you that everything*0 does equal 1? Because 1/0*0=0/0

No, lode, not at all. It proves that one divided by zero can't be used as an accurate representation of either one or zero: zero divided by one can represent zero because zero equals zero times one; zero divided by zero can represent one because zero equals one times zero; but one divded by zero can't represent anything or everything because one doesn't equal zero times anything or everything.

The zero divided by one represents the unreachable/non-existent absolute point beyond the infinitesimal (positive and/or negative); and the zero divded by zero represents the unreachable/non-existent absolute point beyond the infinite (positive and/or negative).

What you are trying to do is divide those two infinities, but even a calculator will tell you that a literal anything/everything/one/etc. cannot be divded by zero. Only a zero can be divded by zero because it is the only absolute that can represent non-existence - which is what the absolute means, it doesn't exist ever. Regardless of how hard you, Lloyd or Eric try.

[Eric]

The infinitesimal to the infinite is all that can "exist" - illusively. Once we attempt to go beyond infinity, and proclaim we've found absolute zero or one or one divided by zero, is the moment we're wrong.

Are you saying that infinitesimal and infinite is reachable?

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Lodestar's Theory of Everything___1/0=E = Absolutely True.
Nobody's Theory of Nothing___0 = Absolutely True.
Eric's Principle's of "The Absolute" = Absolutely True.
Lloyd's Rationalization of Infinity = Absolutely True.

All true___How? The answer of this TAO puzzle = The absolute truth of TOE.

Clue___The one, two and all perspectives of perception trickster___He's high/low/in/out and all around. Remember the true/false trickster Q on Startrek___The trickster logic/imagination of pure instinct.

The two major observer positions of mind will create the differences of truth visions of all worldviews___the infinite looking in and the finite looking out___some of us realize this, and others do not. When one does not, your immediate worldview will be mood dependent___the choice when known is your own open choice, otherwise the quantum uncertainty principle controls all one's perceptions and worldviews___chance perspectives___abduction.

Put your thinking caps on, let's figure this out,
Sincerely,
Lloyd

[Nobody]

Eric,

I think Lloyd would agree that the infinite and the infinitesimal are already reached by the universe, because it is the infinite number of infinitesimally-"existing particles" that make up the universe.

In physical terms, I would say that G must equal mc2. Energy equals gravity, but the hypothesized graviton is confined, like most quarks and positrons, so we only observe electrons, protons, the effects of gravity, photons, etc.. Between the two, the abstract 0 and 1, we have the basis for the existence of relative functioning (how a brain/body/mind is materialized and functions out of the infinite number of interactions possible in relativity - time). The absolute is 0, and the relative foundation (the foundation of positive and negative splicing) is 0.000000.....ad infinitum....1.

[Eric]

I think Lloyd would agree that the infinite and the infinitesimal are already reached by the universe, because it is the infinite number of infinitesimally-"existing particles" that make up the universe.

But doesn't that go against the very definition of infinity? How can the universe arrive at infinitesimal or infinite? If one arrives a size or a number, then isn't it finite?

Infinity is simply a greater principle than finite. It says something to us about all things finite. Finite assumes beginning and end. To the universe as a whole, to the sizes and numbers of the universe, to the characteristics of the universe, and anything else you can imagine about the universe.

Infinity is the princple of non-arrival (departure).

There is no actual beginning or end to anything of the universe, or the universe itself. There might "appear" to be, but there isn't "actually".

The universe as Einstein said, is finite yet unbounded.

[Nobody]

"But doesn't that go against the very definition of infinity? How can the universe arrive at infinitesimal or infinite? If one arrives a size or a number, then isn't it finite?"

Like you said further down in your post, the universe doesn't arrive at infinity. I said the same thing in my message, that the universe has already reached infinity because it can't exist without it. Its existence is dependent upon the infinitesimal, or in terms of making a cake, it can't exist without the ingredients.

I think Einstein was so hard on himself and wracked about finite quanta, because he attempted to mix relativity (infinity) and its opposite absolute.

For instance, what is normally considered an absolute value of charge - a positive or negative charge - is made up of an infinite number of fractional charges. From which, the absolute perspective negates all those charges to zero. The absolute is zero (1 - 1 = 0; 0.00001 - 0.00001 = 0).

The main problem, imo, is that observations are misleading and are viewed as reality in lieu of logical conclusions based on extending what is observed to infinite proportions. Like orbiting galaxy clusters, to orbiting planets, to orbiting electrons, to orbiting quarks, to orbiting (?), to everything orbiting around non existence.

[Eric]

The main problem, imo, is that observations are misleading and are viewed as reality in lieu of logical conclusions based on extending what is observed to infinite proportions. Like orbiting galaxy clusters, to orbiting planets, to orbiting electrons, to orbiting quarks, to orbiting (?), to everything orbiting around non existence.

Yes, exactly. They seem to orbit finitely. There seems to be a distance from and a direction at, what I would like to call "center". This also applies to the "mass" doing the orbiting, the "space" they are allowed to orbit within, and the "time" it takes to orbit. It's not just about motion, but also about spatial extension. To have extension, something must grow (move) from it's center.

A quark with spin is a perfect example. Theoretically it is larger than its center and it moves about its center. The center being a dimensionless point.

So as you rightly point out, all of science is stuck on finite. They can't see the forest (infinity) for the trees (finite). Everytime I hear "problematic infinites" I just want to scream. It's the solution, for God's sake!

I think we completely agree, on what I just said and you just said, about this. Both the motion and the extension. Let me know if this is true or not true.

If it is true or we can make it true, I would then like to discuss the difference we have, about what this "finite<infinity" either moves (extends) from, within, or both.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Eric,

I think Lloyd would agree that the infinite and the infinitesimal are already reached by the universe, because it is the infinite number of infinitesimally-"existing particles" that make up the universe.

In physical terms, I would say that G must equal mc2. Energy equals gravity, but the hypothesized graviton is confined, like most quarks and positrons, so we only observe electrons, protons, the effects of gravity, photons, etc.. Between the two, the abstract 0 and 1, we have the basis for the existence of relative functioning (how a brain/body/mind is materialized and functions out of the infinite number of interactions possible in relativity - time). The absolute is 0, and the relative foundation (the foundation of positive and negative splicing) is 0.000000.....ad infinitum....1.

Exactly correct, Nobody. Thanks.