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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    It is non-existent, as we know existence to be, this why neither can it be said "It is" nor "It is not".
    Imagine for a moment yourself in the still embryonic form.
    Visited by your Utterly Trustworthy Parental Spirit.
    Consider a dialogue along these lines;
    Conciousness to consciousness in words unspoken (telepathically if you like)
    you hear, My child, you will grow eyes and ears to see and hear, a mouth to taste and speak and hands to touch and a nose to smell with and legs to move with, all these things you must develope here or you will be handycapped in the world to come.
    And so it comes to pass.
    The sages, seers and wise and holy of antiquity and today all bring the same message.
    Side stepping all the truly uninformed and misinformed who have and do misconstrue that
    one universal message, which is to know everlasting life here and now.
    It has been the bain of the wisest of the wise to awaken mankind to it's natural birth right, and still people do not see nor do they hear.

    56 APHORISMS ON
    CONSCIOUSNESS
    WITHOUT-AN-OBJECT


    1. Consciousness-without-an-object is.
    2. Before objects were, Consciousness-without-an-object is.
    3. Though objects seem to exist, Consciousness-without-an-object is.
    4. When objects vanish, yet remaining through all unaffected, Consciousness-without-an-object is.
    5. Outside of Consciousness-without-an-object nothing is.
    6. Within the bosom of Consciousness-without-an-object lies the power of awareness that projects objects.
    7. When objects are projected, the power of awareness as subject is presupposed, yet Consciousness-without-an-object remains unchanged.
    8. When consciousness of objects is born, then, likewise, consciousness of absence of objects arises.
    9. Consciousness of objects is the Universe.
    10. Consciousness of absence of objects is Nirvana.
    11. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lie both the Universe and Nirvana, yet to Consciousness-without-an-object these two are the same.
    12. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the seed of Time.
    13. When awareness cognizes Time then knowledge of Timelessness is born.
    14. To be aware of Time is to be aware of the Universe, and to be aware of the Universe is to be aware of Time.
    15. To realize Timelessness is to attain Nirvana.
    16. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is no difference between Time and Timelessness.
    17. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the seed of the world-containing Space.
    18. When awareness cognizes the world-containing Space then knowledge of the Spatial Void is born.
    19. To be aware of the world-containing Space is to be aware of the Universe of Objects.
    20. To realize the Spatial Void is to awaken to Nirvanic Consciousness.
    21. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is no difference between the world-containing Space and the Spatial Void.
    22. Within Consciousness-without-an-object lies the Seed of Law.
    23. When consciousness of objects is born the Law is invoked as a Force tending ever toward Equilibrium.
    24. All objects exist as tensions within Consciousness-without-an-object that tend ever to flow into their own complements or others.
    25. The ultimate effect of the flow of all objects into their complements is mutual cancellation in complete Equilibrium.
    26. Consciousness of the field of tensions is the Universe.
    27. Consciousness of Equilibrium is Nirvana.
    28. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is neither tension nor Equilibrium.
    29. The state of tensions is the state of ever-becoming.
    30. Ever-becoming is endless-dying.
    31. So the state of consciousness of objects is a state of ever-renewing promises that pass into death at the moment of fulfillment.
    32. Thus when consciousness is attached to objects the agony of birth and death never ceases.
    33. In the state of Equilibrium where birth cancels death the deathless Bliss of Nirvana is realized.
    34. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither agony nor bliss.
    35. Out of the Great Void, which is Consciousness-without-an-object, the Universe is creatively projected.
    36. The Universe as experienced is the created negation that ever resists.
    37. The creative act is bliss, the resistance, unending pain.
    38. Endless resistance is the Universe of experience, the agony of crucifixion.
    39. Ceaseless creativeness is Nirvana, the Bliss beyond human conceiving.
    40. But for Consciousness-without-an-object there is neither creativeness nor resistance.
    41. Ever-becoming and ever-ceasing-to-be are endless action.
    42. When ever-becoming cancels the ever-ceasing-to-be then Rest is realized.
    43. Ceaseless action is the Universe.
    44. Unending Rest is Nirvana.
    45. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither Action nor Rest.
    46. When consciousness is attached to objects it is restricted through the forms imposed by the world-containing Space, by Time, and by Law.
    47. When consciousness is disengaged from objects, Liberation from the forms of the world-containing Space, of Time, and of Law is attained.
    48. Attachment to objects is consciousness bound within the Universe.
    49. Liberation from such attachment is the State of unlimited Nirvanic Freedom.
    50. But Consciousness-without-an-object is neither bondage nor freedom.
    51. Consciousness-without-an-object may be symbolized by a SPACE that is unaffected by the presence or absence of objects, for which there is neither Time nor Timelessness, neither a world-containing Space nor a Spatial Void, neither Tension nor Equilibrium, neither Resistance nor Creativeness, neither Agony nor Bliss, neither Action nor Rest, and neither Restriction nor Freedom.
    52. As the GREAT SPACE is not to be identified with the Universe, so neither is It to be identified with any Self.
    53. The GREAT SPACE is not God, but the comprehender of all Gods, as well as of all lesser creatures.
    54. The GREAT SPACE, or Consciousness-without-an-object, is the Sole Reality upon which all objects and all selves depend and derive their existence.
    55. The GREAT SPACE comprehends both the Path of the Universe and the Path of Nirvana.
    56. Beside the GREAT SPACE there is none other.
    57. OM TAT SAT

    Quote Originally Posted by N0B0DY View Post
    From your gita reference, Drifter, there is mention of a few things perhaps you would wish to discuss. I think both religion and science requires certain corrective measures regarding their relatively recent merge.

    "Verily the one Self is all, free from differentiation and non-differentiation. Neither can it be said, "It is" nor "It is not." What a great mystery." - Chapter 1:4

    There is much said, for known reasons, about isness and all that is and I am, but if it can't be said that "it is," what can really be said of "its" existence?

    Also the author's note - "Note: In addition to waking, dreaming and dreamless sleep, Indians reckon with "the fourth" (state), also called Turiya. Beyond it is the . . . which is beyond words and common experience." is perplexing enough, if we are expressing ourselves about certain inexpressible venues.

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    The Transition to the Awakened Consciousness is a Copernican change which not only transforms the essential level of the individual involved, but alters is whole relationship to the subject-object world as well. When Copernicus demonstrated the superior power unfolded by regarding the sun, rather than the earth, as the center of the solar system, the world was not destroyed as an empirical fact, but its relationship and significance within the whole was radically changed. This transformation, while affecting astronomy most immediately, produced secondary effects with ramifications reaching far into different phases of social life. This change has brought about enormous clarification with respect to many vitally important problems that had formerly been quite obscure. The Awakening involves such a change, only in a much more radical sense. When It has come, the whole life of the individual is affected, and part of the effect is a profound clarification and simplification of a vast number of obscurities. So much is this the case that if the Awakened Man chooses to direct His force within the subject-object field, then in whatever compartment He may focus His attention He has superior capacity as compared to others who have not the advantage of His perspective. He now looks down on things in their relationships, rather than being involved in those relationships. The highest excellence in government, business engineering, science, religion, art, etc. are at His command, restricted only by the limitations of his personal vehicle. But before man can operate upon relationships from Above, he must first break his bondage within those relationships, and in part this is represented by unlearning what has been previously learned.

    It does not follow that all previously acquired knowledge will be found false. To a greater or lesser extent, the Realized Man may still be able to judge it correct. Its Significance, however, will be radically changed, and He will be enabled to tie together parts that formerly had been irreconcilable. He stands outside and above the 'game', as it were, and so is enabled to play with a master's hand.

    Even though from the highest standpoint relative or subject-object knowledge has been completely Transcended and no longer affords a field of function, it does therefore allow that it has not served a useful purpose in its time. Man builds a certain integration while in the subject-object field without which recognition, as a self-conscious achievement, is impossible. The training in subject-object knowledge serves something of the function of a scaffold in the construction of a building, When the building is ready, the scaffolding may be and should be abandoned, for it ceases to be, in general, any longer valuable. The man may now enter the building which, in this case, represents the Transcendent or Cosmic Consciousness. However, a scaffolding should not be wrecked while workmen are still standing upon it. So the Compassionate Man who has found the Building to be ready and then enters into It will also leave the scaffolding standing until all the others have likewise left it and Entered In.

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Awakening is a flowering of your innermost being.
    It is a revelation of your essence,
    hidden by long eons of self-delusion,
    ignorance,
    unbounded desires.
    Enlightenment is an ending as well as a beginning:
    the ending of the old, veiled, dark ego,
    its longings, illusions, frustrations;
    the beginning of a vast expanse,
    an infinite field of the Unknown,
    an adventure in consciousness.
    It is a revolution:
    it represents danger to the old way of life,
    to old ways of thinking and living.
    It is freedom from the known and the unknown;
    from the real and the unreal;
    from any appearance of division between you and Truth.

    It is the abandoning of beliefs, dis-beliefs,
    presumptions and stances,
    self, ego,
    call it what you will,
    or call it nothing,
    what it is.

    It is the Path of the golden Dawn,
    the Path out of the Night of Time
    into the Bursting daylight of Eternal Now...
    - Petros

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    addendum:
    [quote=Drifter;41538]It is non-existent, as we know existence to be, this why neither can it be said "It is" nor "It is not".
    Imagine for a moment yourself in the still embryonic form.
    Visited by your Utterly Trustworthy Parental Spirit.
    Consider a dialogue along these lines;
    Conciousness to consciousness in words unspoken (telepathically if you like)
    you hear, My child, you will grow eyes and ears to see and hear, a mouth to taste and speak and hands to touch and a nose to smell with and legs to move with, all these things you must develope here or you will be handycapped in the world to come.
    with todays current mindset the reply would be; what do I need those type things for? There's nothing here to see, hear, taste, touch, or smell and nowhere to go. And similarly so we will be handicapped in the next realm, as far as the evolution of our Consciousness goes, for after all is said and done, what else is there?
    And so it comes to pass when the unheralded event comes.
    The sages, seers and wise and holy of antiquity and today all bring the same message.
    Side stepping all the truly uninformed and misinformed who have and do misconstrue that
    one universal message, which is to know everlasting life here and now.
    It has been the bain of the wisest of the wise to awaken mankind to it's natural birth right, and still people do not see nor do they hear.

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    You say it as i am thinking it drifter, exactly to the point ..
    perfect harmony and resonance thank-you for this delightful dance

    a tango for two, without you there is no me ..a duet for One ..

    loving your posts drifter thanks.


    beautiful joy & shared love .. Ummmwhaaaa!!

    maybe if people invested more time in the things that really matter
    they will maybe wake from their nightmare, to a reality of unimaginable joy
    which is just the flip side of their current awareness .. a shift in their consciousness

    ..

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Yours I Am We Are One in That. Umwha?

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    You say it as i am thinking it drifter, exactly to the point ..
    perfect harmony and resonance thank-you for this delightful dance

    a tango for two, without you there is no me ..a duet for One ..

    loving your posts drifter thanks.


    beautiful joy & shared love .. Ummmwhaaaa!!

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Oh, I get it!

    Ummmwhaaa

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Yours I Am We Are One in That. Umwha?

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    Quote Originally Posted by Drifter View Post
    Oh, I get it!

    Ummmwhaaa

    it's an expression of delight, well it is in this country anyway ..

    ummwhaaa! meaning .. i love it ..


    i do believe you are blushing mr drifter ,, ha! ha! ha!

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    yes I got it dear.
    like in the movies "Que Magnifique!" Umwhaa
    "you got me babe"

    Quote Originally Posted by melanie View Post
    it's an expression of delight, well it is in this country anyway ..

    ummwhaaa! meaning .. i love it ..


    i do believe you are blushing mr drifter ,, ha! ha! ha!

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    Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

    The basic nature of human being, being In-The-World, each of us has an
    inherent need to exist in the world into which we were born, and to
    achieve a conscious and unconscious sense of ourselves as an
    autonomous and distinct entity. The stronger this Being-In-The-World,
    or "Dasein", the healthier the personality.
    To fulfill one's own innate potentials (that is to develop Dasein)
    requires constant effort and courage. The only way to enjoy a
    meaningful life is by affirming and asserting our being-in-the-world---
    even (if need be) in the face of social pressures to conform,
    misguided parental standards, and the threat of death itself:
    The hallmark of courage in our age of conformity is the capacity to
    stand on ones convictions--not obstinately or defiantly (these are
    expressions of defensiveness and not courage) nor as a gesture of
    retaliation, but simply because these are what one believes. It is as
    though one were saying through one's actions, "This is my self, my
    being."....{Thus it is through self-assertion and} will, that the
    human being experiences his identity. "I" is the "I" of " I can, I
    Am."

    Because Dasein is so personal a matter, no one else can tell an
    individual how or what to be-in-the-world. Each of us must discover
    our own potentials and values, and the best way to do so is by
    experiencing each moment actively and spontaneously. In fact, even
    such basic human drives as sexuality and aggression are of secondary
    importance to Dasein. Drives are an abstraction, and perceiving
    ourselves as "having" them dehumanizing. We 'are' our hunger, thirst,
    sexuality, feelings, ideas, and so forth, and it is this experiencing
    that is truly and distinctly human. -Rollo May

    "Modes of Being-In-The-World": a compound word, must be expressed
    through hyphenation, an awkward method, to say the least, that does
    not quite convey the unity inplied by the construct.

    Existence is a non-egoic-non-dual-Facticity.
    A knowledge of oneself as the human being who can interact with the
    world is intrinsic---and thus exists prior to any actual contacts with
    the environment.

 

 

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