T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[sillysally]

The ONE that is reading is the same ONE that writes,
yet there is no writing.
There is no quoting or writing of others, there is only reading.
The ONE that is quoting and writing is the same ONE that is reading.

The meaning of words read are the seeing of them and known instantly as sensed and recognized, as the ONE with the knowing.
Known by no-one.

That's a little too freaky for me. I'd like to remain separated until I at least figure out how to put myself back together. See there's parts of me that are there, but I can't understand them. I'd like to understand that first, I'm number 1! I'm #1 I'm #1!! I'm egotistical! I I I I ME ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE MINE. Ah, that felt good, thanks for letting me vent Mel.

[Drifter]

Little boys and girls [children] are 'the essence' that Men and Women are made from.

You can be a child as long as you wish.

If you had two children, and ask them to help you chop wood and carry water, and both agreed wholeheartedly to do so and gave 100%, yet at the end of the day, one produced more than the other, would you praise one and scorn the other?

Do you think our heavenly Father would be any less wise?

God loves all His children equally and unconditionally.

He does not praise and and scorn the other.

There is no one to judge you, no one you will answer to, except your Self.

Be That, when you find the time, or not.

If you had a lover who ignored you for life, with this "I", "I", "I", "Me", "Me", "Me", "Mine", "Mine", "Mine" dispostion, then upon their death bed, ask you for something [e.g. dying of thirst, a glass of water] , what might be the reply? Love or selfishness.

That's a little too freaky for me. I'd like to remain separated until I at least figure out how to put myself back together. See there's parts of me that are there, but I can't understand them. I'd like to understand that first, I'm number 1! I'm #1 I'm #1!! I'm egotistical! I I I I ME ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE MINE. Ah, that felt good, thanks for letting me vent Mel.

[Drifter]

For some reason, this reminds me of The Parable of The Scorpion and The Frog.

That's a little too freaky for me. I'd like to remain separated until I at least figure out how to put myself back together. See there's parts of me that are there, but I can't understand them. I'd like to understand that first, I'm number 1! I'm #1 I'm #1!! I'm egotistical! I I I I ME ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE MINE. Ah, that felt good, thanks for letting me vent Mel.

[melanie]

That's a little too freaky for me. I'd like to remain separated until I at least figure out how to put myself back together. See there's parts of me that are there, but I can't understand them. I'd like to understand that first, I'm number 1! I'm #1 I'm #1!! I'm egotistical! I I I I ME ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE MINE. Ah, that felt good, thanks for letting me vent Mel.

Sally i like to study Non-Duality, it has freed me of a separate self idea.
and made my life completely whole and non-confrontational. ego less.

It is not the apparent mel character that is letting the apparent sally character vent.

It is the 'one presence' awareness in which all characters appear.
the sally who thinks she is venting, is an appearance a presence in awareness.

This one presence awareness is the one who is venting 'AS' you,
and not you per se ..

anyway sally it doesn't matter because the one who doesn't see through the veil of maya, is the same one who does see through it,
all just different appearances in awareness,
and really there is nothing to understand, as we are the understood, we are the seen,
life is being done as us, IT has got us, not the other way around.

melanie..

[Drifter]

The Immortal Triad consists of:

1. Manas or Mind-Principle, the Thinker in us; in its higher
part the Reincarnating Entity, the central pivot of man's
constitution, the Human Soul.

2. Buddhi or Spiritual Soul, the vehicle of

3. Atma, the Spirit, a ray of the Universal and One Self.

The link between the Immortal Triad and the mortal Quaternary is
Manas, which, during the period of incarnation, is dual, and
functions as Lower and Higher Manas. The Higher Manas sends
forth, as it were, a ray, the Lower Manas which functions through
the brain as brain-consciousness, the ratiocinating intelligence,
and the brain-mind. This lower aspect of Manas mingles with the
Kama or passional nature, forming what may be termed Kama-Manas;
this is the battleground, during life, of the Higher and Lower
natures of Man, the perishable and the imperishable elements in
his constitution.

According to H.P. Blavatsky (THE KEY TO THEOSOPHY, page 172),

Atma the God above (more than within) us, is the HIGHER SELF;
Buddhi or the Spiritual Soul, in close union with Manas --
without which the former is only the vehicle of Atma -- is the
Spiritual Divine Ego; Manas, the fifth "principle," independently
of Buddhi, is the Ego (it is the Spiritual Ego only when merged
into Buddhi), the permanent Individuality, the reincarnating Ego;
the physical man in conjunction with the lower self -- animal
instincts, passions, desires, etc., -- in other words, the Lower
Manas combined with Kama and operating through the physical body
and the astral double, is the Lower Personal Ego.

[N0B0DY]

I'd like to remain separated until I at least figure out how to put myself back together. See there's parts of me that are there, but I can't understand them.

That's the spirit, Sally! Still we can realize that absolute knowledge is required to put the self together properly in no time, whereas even infinite knowledge would take an eternity, because the absolute universe has no sub-conscious interference which creates an evolution over time.

Though some separate consciousness and awareness, I equate them as resulting from an infinite number of differential states abstracted from the absolute state; and, conversely, though there is a fine line between infinite and absolute, only the absolute "gateway" transcends the "sum of all parts" because it is the set of no set that transcends the set of all sets.

[Drifter]

Awarenss requires a vehicle, for expression.

Awareness expresses via ambulatory consciousness, in but not of, that which is closest to it Self [the Un-man-i-fested], as it-Self made manifest.

That's the spirit, Sally! Still we can realize that absolute knowledge is required to put the self together properly in no time, whereas even infinite knowledge would take an eternity, because the absolute universe has no sub-conscious interference which creates an evolution over time.

Though some separate consciousness and awareness, I equate them as resulting from an infinite number of differential states abstracted from the absolute state; and, conversely, though there is a fine line between infinite and absolute, only the absolute "gateway" transcends the "sum of all parts" because it is the set of no set that transcends the set of all sets.

[N0B0DY]

Well said, Drifter!

I agree that man is infested with many selves, and any attempt to single out the true self is futile because all of them require the same self-awareness or self-consciousness.

[N0B0DY]

I think the root of modern physics can be based on Newton, Einstein and Wolff, and a necessary reaction to their implications should cause a search for an accurate definition of what matter is in order to know what it isn't.

"Although it is far less common today, one still sometimes hears of Einstein's equation entailing that matter can be converted into energy. Strictly speaking, this constitutes an elementary category mistake. In relativistic physics, as in classical physics, mass and energy are both regarded as properties of physical systems or properties of the constituents of physical systems. If one wishes to talk about the physical stuff that is the bearer of such properties, then one typically talks about either “matter” or “fields.” The distinction between “matter” and “fields” in modern physics is itself rather subtle in no small part because of the equivalence of mass and energy. Nevertheless, we can assert that whatever sense of “conversion” seems compelling between mass and energy, it will have to be a “conversion” between mass and energy, and not between matter and energy. Finally, our observation obtains even in so-called “annihilation” reactions where the entire mass of the incoming particles seems to “disappear” (see, for example, Baierlein (p. 323, 2007). Of course, the older terminology of “matter” and “anti-matter” does not really help our philosophical understanding of mass-energy equivalence and is perhaps partly to blame for misconceptions surrounding E = mc2."

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/equivME/#2.1

[melanie]

Noticing what you already know(and that you already know it)

an excerpt by 'Robin Dale'



Understanding is born into mind/world, and birth is painful. The mind's obsessive need to understand, itself creates a shell which must painfully break. This is the mind letting go to reveal the heart's knowledge.

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The Universe/mind is a symbol of the Absolute, unfolding to reveal that it is none other than the Absolute in reality. The Absolute manifests as symbols of itself, which unfold to demonstrate and discover the Absolute. Universes forming and dissolving thus, are the beating of the Sacred Heart.

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Self or mind is always hiding things from itself. That's the only way it can exist. The fact that it doesn't exist is the biggest secret it keeps from itself.

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Seeing that there is a gap between thoughts is the first step. Then it becomes obvious that the whole thing is one big gap with thoughts appearing on top of it. Then you find that you are that gap. Then you can't find a gap between thoughts, because the thoughts themselves are made of 'gap,' which you are; it is like an eye trying to see itself.


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