T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[Lloyd Gillespie]

An interesting article I found. Thought you all might wish to take a gander.

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/...08/99-hau.html

Have a great day!

Hi Nobody, this may be the most important discovery about light, I have come across. I thank you for pointing it out. I'm still mulling it over, but it seems to point to the separation of electrodynamics, into its true constituent parts, and points to thermo-hydrodynamics proof, at the low temperature levels, and possibly in directions of fundamental substance's proofs of low entropy motion, as far more fundamental, than any of the higher velocities. What is your take on its meaning...?

Here's some extra links to Hau's work: http://www.deas.harvard.edu/haulab/s...ress_links.htm

Regards,
Lloyd

[N0B0DY]

Hi guys,

I think light is the crux of everything made manifest in the universe, through photonic interactions that also sets its top speed at the detectable level through interference within a vacuum. It also links everything together as the source and transmitter of any conceivable and even inconceivable information. Everything rests on light.

At any rate, I think Hau found a way for info to be stored, but misses the bigger picture at the opposite end of the spectrum because information transmission is still capped at light speed. The info is seen as localized...something required to travel, but if the info at one localized point is "known" at every other point in the universe in its entirety, then there is no need for info to travel - the "fingerprint" is already everywhere at the same time. In essence it takes no time for info to travel.

The problem and the breakthrough will be found in filtering out irrelevant language pertaining to the "fingerprint." Just like each person has a unique fingerprint, an encoded message would have its own fingerprint and it would not have to be transmitted and read. The reading program would eliminate all interference unrelated to each unique message.

A good analogy might be to think of a black and white picture being sent which is contained within a completely black picture. As it stands now, information pertaining to the structure of large amounts of info is sent retrieved and read which takes time obviously, but that's only because bits are thought to be required to be sent to be read. The bits are already there, and the moment the decoder or filter would be accessed, the info would appear.

Might not be the best explanation, but if you could get your head around it a bit it suggests that this message that I typed before was already on your screen before you read it.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Nobody, the first part of your post, I agree with___the answer is in completely understanding light. The person who can accurately explain the entire physical substance mechanics of an em-scalar wave, with classical physical evidence, will possess the true answer to the universe's fundamental clock and motions.

Hi guys,

I think light is the crux of everything made manifest in the universe, through photonic interactions that also sets its top speed at the detectable level through interference within a vacuum. It also links everything together as the source and transmitter of any conceivable and even inconceivable information. Everything rests on light.

At any rate, I think Hau found a way for info to be stored, but misses the bigger picture at the opposite end of the spectrum because information transmission is still capped at light speed. The info is seen as localized...something required to travel, but if the info at one localized point is "known" at every other point in the universe in its entirety, then there is no need for info to travel - the "fingerprint" is already everywhere at the same time. In essence it takes no time for info to travel.

The problem and the breakthrough will be found in filtering out irrelevant language pertaining to the "fingerprint." Just like each person has a unique fingerprint, an encoded message would have its own fingerprint and it would not have to be transmitted and read. The reading program would eliminate all interference unrelated to each unique message.

A good analogy might be to think of a black and white picture being sent which is contained within a completely black picture. As it stands now, information pertaining to the structure of large amounts of info is sent retrieved and read which takes time obviously, but that's only because bits are thought to be required to be sent to be read. The bits are already there, and the moment the decoder or filter would be accessed, the info would appear.

Might not be the best explanation, but if you could get your head around it a bit it suggests that this message that I typed before was already on your screen before you read it.

As to the later area of your post, the last sentence, especially, I don't think so... IMO, highly improbably, and I would say impossible. There is no extra-physical intelligence to the universe___It's entirely absolutely mechanical, all the way up and back down... Sorry, but I would say it has to be, as this is what the evolution of physical evidence, and the laws of physics, already show...

Lloyd

[N0B0DY]

Hi Lloyd,

I have to disagree with your logic, firstly because if we limited ourselves to what science already shows, science wouldn't have evolved to the point it has today. It continues to evolve and reveal, and is self-corrective by both definition and the nature of its type of study.

Extra-physical intelligence? Yeah, I would agree with you there. Just plain old intelligence, but on a universal scale. Much like your toenail not being conscious or intelligent, but you yourself being conscious and intelligent; so not everything in the universe is conscious, if that's what you were implying, but that a universal structure capable of sharing particles to the tune that the makeup of the universe can act, react and interact according to an intelligent system of replication, mutation, and evolution over time is certain. There is nothing to prevent it.

This latter part brings us to what time is and isn't, and how those "fingerprints" mentioned in the article above can be replicated and transferable in no time. In other words, asking how much time it took for the observable universe to evolve to the state it is in today, we could say that it took no time at all because any conceivable scenario is embedded within an infinite number of rates of energy transfers. Just like any digital result is already embedded within the analog source; just like any and all conceivable pictures are embedded within a blank canvass. The reality is merely a separation, filtering out, of particles that are irrelevant to effectual changes.

Let me ask you: what is preventing tomorrow and yesterday from being today - right now? Think about that one for a bit...

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi Lloyd,
Let me ask you: what is preventing tomorrow and yesterday from being today - right now? Think about that one for a bit...

Come on Nobody, you ask too simple a question. It's simply the distance of particle/wave travel, whether photon or "I", and all things in between. This happens to be an absolute fact of universal fundamental substance mechanics, on up to us___the universal clock of particle/wave travel. It just happens to be a one way ticket mechanics...

Lloyd

[dleviwing]

Yesterday is only a memory and tomorrow never comes. Every instant of time has a now; then it no longer exists. The roses smell best when one is awake.

[N0B0DY]

Following the type of logic you guys are portraying, stars that have long-since died would still exist the way that you observe them.

It becomes clear once we delve into the nature of light and its properties, or lack thereof, that we are light beings - simply made of light interactions - living in a great big light show of which reality is solely dependent upon time.

You guys should know that interference slows light down, and since it is becoming clearly evident that fractional charges constitute the "real world," the central point must be zero charge and zero temperature. There is no non-relative (absolute, intrinsic) value that can be allotted to physical phenomena.

The point being, the rate of speed at which energy transfers occur is infinite or zero - take your pick. The effectual changes stored, frozen, as them "fingerprints" are infinite in number and they happen in no time....logically! The release of information that sets the laws of physics must then be the result of time, which is what I've been trying to say all along.

What causes time, then, must be our slow beans unable to keep up with the universal information highway.

[magic]

the second law

"ta-ra! ta-ra!" goes the big bang breakfast!
"hurrah! hurrah!" goes the second law of thermodynamics!

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Oh, I think you err considerably, Nobody.

Following the type of logic you guys are portraying, stars that have long-since died would still exist the way that you observe them.

Not true at all, we know many stars have died, and the less older ones we see, may also be in an opposite position in the sky.

It becomes clear once we delve into the nature of light and its properties, or lack thereof, that we are light beings - simply made of light interactions - living in a great big light show of which reality is solely dependent upon time.

All correct except "dependent upon time." I prefer nothing dependent, since all is a fact of time/distance travel of all substances, initially of the FS.

You guys should know that interference slows light down, and since it is becoming clearly evident that fractional charges constitute the "real world," the central point must be zero charge and zero temperature. There is no non-relative (absolute, intrinsic) value that can be allotted to physical phenomena.

Ah, you err again. First sentence about true. Second sentence is absolutely false. The absolute value is the Infinite FS___It absolutely must exist, for anything to exist.

The point being, the rate of speed at which energy transfers occur is infinite or zero - take your pick. The effectual changes stored, frozen, as them "fingerprints" are infinite in number and they happen in no time....logically! The release of information that sets the laws of physics must then be the result of time, which is what I've been trying to say all along.

Again, first sentence___impossible, as we absolutely know all is moving, except part of the FS, at different rates of speed from near zero to C and true C___Infinite and true zero are unmeasurable. The fingerprints absolutely must be finite in number, as we only absolutely see the finite, and they happen in a finite distance, store in finite matter, and are recovered finitely, from finite matter. I don't know what you're looking at, it's sure not the same work of Hau's that I'm looking at. Your "release of information" is pure speculation and conjecture___study Hau's results closer.

What causes time, then, must be our slow beans unable to keep up with the universal information highway.

Oh, there's plenty of slow beans, that's for sure, but the only universal information highway is infinite state changing FS in motion___no intellectual information involved___that's us, later on. We make the foolish and wise interpretations, from our true observations, and our exaggerated false ideas...

Lloyd

[N0B0DY]

I can sense it's getting too advanced for you, Lloyd. So look at it this way:

What is the smallest particle or measurement?

Would you err like other scientists have erred and proclaim them to be indivisible? Are you absolutely sure?

If not, everything else you are absolutely sure of becomes moot, because everything else is based on those principles and lack thereof.

The more h decreases, the more c increases, but how much so exactly? To cap c based on limited observations; or to cap anything based on observations is not very logical.

In other words, because you missed my first point, the stars that you see aren't there. All phenomena occurs only when extracted and slowed by those little beans, and each absolute point of their source positions must always remain zero/non-existent for relative measurements to exist.