T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

[Drifter]

THE INNER CONSTITUTIONS OF MAN (6)

Astral body, are manipulations of it; and we know that when one
goes to a medium he simply awakens her Astral body and receives
from it his own thoughts in reply to his queries, and nothing
more, except in some few rare cases.

The divorce between religion and science has been so great that
the "Inner Man" has been forced to manifest improperly and out of
place, in order to keep alive the evidence that there was such a
body. Had science been united to and gone hand in hand with
spiritual philosophy, we would have had a uniform development.
Since man's investigations have been curbed, he has revolted
within, and he has been manifesting this inner nature for the
last forty years. The facts of Spiritualism are thus of use, but
at the same time are dangerous. They bring back to the earth
influences which ought not to return; pictures of old crimes
which produce in men once more the desire to commit them.

We come next to the division of passions and desires, the basis
of action from which men find their incentive to do both good and
evil. When a man dies and is buried, his kamic body is released.
The life principle is also released from these atoms to go into
others. Then the kamic body, with all the passions and desires,
is set free.

We will suppose the case of a suicide. His kamic body escapes
full of the idea of suicide. Similarly, the man who has indulged
in drinking and all sorts of sensualities, goes out full of these
things. A murderer who is hung is in the same condition.
Guiteau would go out full of that last scene where he defied his
accusers, and where he declared he would destroy all the people
who had anything to do with his incarceration. What happens?
Man's higher principles go on and on with evolution, finally
being reincarnated. If after death, these lower elements are
seized by mediums and brought back to earth, infused with
additional life, not permitted to disintegrate, it is a crime.

Everyone who goes to a medium and asks that their dead may return
commits a crime. It is a crime against the person who is dead,
and against the medium; it brings around her bad influences, for
the majority that can return are full of crime. They are of the
earth, earthy.

Now, when I am dead, my astral body will not have my senses; it
will contain only my passions and desires, which swerve me as
they swerve you also, and if I am drawn back against my will, I
may do harm. If you could actually see what occurs at a seance,
you would never go to another. You would see all these vile
shapes enveloping the sitters like a huge octopus.

[Drifter]

THE INNER CONSTITUTIONS OF MAN (7)

Mediumship is nothing but communicating with the astral dead; it
is the worship of the dead, and as such it has been condemned for
ages. Moses said "Ye shall kill a witch." He prohibited his
people from having anything to do with such things.

Having considered the lower principles of man, we now come to
that which is immortal, or mind, soul, and spirit, called
respectively, Manas, Buddhi, and Atma. Atma, or spirit, is
universal, and Buddhi its vehicle. Manas is the individualized
thinker, the one who is conscious. These three together are
eternally passing through incarnation and coming back again and
again to gain experience; to reap reward or punishment.

Before birth, in the prenatal state, man is in almost the same
condition that he is after death, so that a consideration of the
postmortem state will serve for the prenatal. The difference is
only slight.

By a simple illustration you will probably understand the
ordinary, or Devachanic condition after death, and its relation
to life. Imagine a young Theosophist who is to deliver a speech.
Previous to his appearance, he thinks of it continually, perhaps
for days, goes over his ideas and wonders what kind of an
impression he will make. In the evening he delivers it, in a
brief time compared to that he has spent in thinking about it.
When he has delivered it, he thinks of the impression he has
made. The next day and for many days he still thinks of it.
Isn't the thought more than the act? The state of Devachan is
where he is in a similar manner thinking over the things of his
last life until he returns to rebirth.

Thus after the death of the body, we keep up this thinking, and
develop this part of our nature until the time comes when it is
exhausted and we come back to life to continue evolution until
the race has been perfected.


-THE INNER CONSTITUTION OF MAN

By W.Q. Judge

[An abstract of a lecture delivered at Irving Hall, San
Francisco, October 26th, 1891 reprinted in ECHOES OF THE ORIENT,
III, pages 189-95]

[Drifter]

Mind, is Universal.
The Universal Mind Is Omnipotent Omnipresent Omniscience.
All knowing[collectively], consistent in All[to varying degrees], and everywhere at the same time[at once].
If it were anything less, it wouldn't be.
This is evident in everyone, as well as evident in everyones surroundings.
To isolate human-mind is to mistakenly take one part, or aspect, of that Universalism as the sum total of that Universalism, which it obviously is not.
Thoughts, beget words, beget actions, which beget behaviour, which beget habits, which beget character.
"Where do the thoughts come from if not the human-mind? Very simply, The source.
Awareness is like a blank screen, much like the computer screen you are watching at this very moment. Thoughts appear, like the squigley lines forming shapes upon the screen, which are interpreted by the conditioning and culture of the [individual]brain observing the phenomena. The interpreting part of the human-mind is the human-side of the so conditioned mind. Which in turn intuits and interprets the images and stimuli received by it, and translates or puts into words, what it has at its disposal to, as closely as possible, interpret those intuitions[impressions, made upon it by the Source]. Both from without and from within. The Source is no more or human alone than the street sign is the street that it identifies. Or a point is what it is pointing to.
Words arise from thought which arises from Universal Mind and in interpeting thought we do so within the context of the human experience.
To err is human, to forgive is Divine.
I sincerely hope this settles the controversy.

[Drifter]

Have a great Now,

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[dipayankar]

I agree that there can be no absolute zero. However can there be absolute singularity??

Just a few things:

1) If we were able to reduce something infinitely, it would never reach absolute zero. Infinity cannot be verified using the scientific method, so how do you propose the reality of infinity?

2) Infinity is based on the inversely-proportionate relationship of the infinite and infinitesimal. So if we were to hypothetically propose that space is infinite, the finite observable universe would be relatively infinitesimal.

3) I agree that there is no such thing as zero, but as being representative of absolute vacuity (0), the opposite would be absolute solidity (1); and since both states are impenetrable and neither can exist, both seeming opposites can be equated as non-existent. This would mesh with Newton's absolute spacetime, and because there can be no literal basis for Einstein's relative spacetime, the warping of which is thence impossible, it must be illusory.

4) I think Newton was correct in his assumption of an absolute spacetime, but not in his assumption of particulate matter being separate from space. I think also that Einstein was correct in his assumption of a unified field, but not in his assumption that variable densities can warp space. Yet, we can integrate both in another fashion using the theoretical basis above, where absolute spacetime is the equivalent of absolute mass/energy in order for us to be able to extract the finite masses and energies observed; and this could include your proposal of infinite space, relative to the reducible velocities from absolute speed.

Relative masses and energies would not be separate from absolute space, but we could eliminate the concept of warpable spacetime because there is no need for space to be filled if it is equated with absolute solidity - there is already more mass than observed. So the motion of mass could then be viewed as being incrementally replicated according to observable quanta as a result of the cumulative distribution functions of random, but deterministic, probabilities.

[Drifter]

Mankind Is a multidimensional Being.
Each aspect likened to the facet of a Diamond.
Each dimension having it's own realtive existence/universe.
The whole reflected within each aspect.
Each aspect a reflection of the whole.
Perfect Brilliant Stillness.
Zero represent the Whole.
Singularity represents Centre.
From the Centre to the Circumferece is the radii [rays][soul] connecting in commonality the without[many] to the within[one].
It's all symbolism. An illusion at best.
But a very clear and persitent one.
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, in words unspoken.

I agree that there can be no absolute zero. However can there be absolute singularity??

[dipayankar]

Science does not depend on Mankind. The laws of physics will always be there and was there long before the existance of Mankind and after the existance of mankind..

Mankind Is a multidimensional Being.
Each aspect likened to the facet of a Diamond.
Each dimension having it's own realtive existence/universe.
The whole reflected within each aspect.
Each aspect a reflection of the whole.
Perfect Brilliant Stillness.
Zero represent the Whole.
Singularity represents Centre.
From the Centre to the Circumferece is the radii [rays][soul] connecting in commonality the without[many] to the within[one].
It's all symbolism. An illusion at best.
But a very clear and persitent one.
For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, in words unspoken.

[Drifter]

There are man made laws and Universal Laws.
One applies to man, the other apllies to the Universe.
Man has the epiphany upon their discovery, not vicey versy.

Science does not depend on Mankind. The laws of physics will always be there and was there long before the existance of Mankind and after the existance of mankind..

[Drifter]

Science is a learned dicipline. Without mankind, to what end "science", before mankind who was there to know "science"? What do you mean "after the existence of mankind"? You as a human being amoung mankind will disappear from mankind and disolve back into the earth from which your physical constitution was made, but the essence of who and what you are cannot die, cannot know death, because it is the unborn, someday, grace permitting before the unheralded event comes, you will come to know[Awaken] this.

Science does not depend on Mankind. The laws of physics will always be there and was there long before the existance of Mankind and after the existance of mankind..

[N0B0DY]

I agree that there can be no absolute zero. However can there be absolute singularity??

I don't know if these are Drifter's own words - "Zero represent the Whole. Singularity represents Centre." - but I interpret both as two abstract perspectives of non existence, and the only means I'm aware of to make such an inference is by using the inverse suggested by Drifter. Yet, I concede that if the above implies a singular entity within an absolute void, it can be used as a means to realize its logical fallacy.

The common use of singularity implies an infinite density, so I'm not sure if this is what you mean by absolute singularity, but if you mean absolutely static and solid, then it implies to me that the reference is to the absolute void I repeatedly refer to which is non-existent. To the time-independent universe, there can be no relative states in between the two abstract perspectives; but to time-dependent observers and events, there is apparently a multitude of relative states between zero and one.

The time it takes for observers to process prerequisite information, from a big bang to any and all cyclical or continual creative events, would then be subconsciously eternal and consciously temporal - extended from the timeless absolute center, circumference or any absolute space-time point between. Again, the difference between eternal and timeless, imo, is that eternal implies no beginning and no end to the extension of time; whereas timeless implies that there is no time at all, never was and never can be.