[melanie]

Why do the words of a Mystic or a Sage so often arouse such severe antagonism? Take, for instance poems like the "Leaves of Grass" by Walt Whitman. They have aroused storms of criticism as well as enthusiastic admiration. Yet, on the other hand, readers of all sorts generally are not trouble by the weird meanderings of the written words of an insane mind. This reveals the fact that it is not simply the unconventionality of the form that stirs the antagonism. Now these storms of criticism are really tributes. They indicate, at least, an unconscious recognition of Power in the words of the Mystic or Sage. The complacency of the forces of Mara - to employ a Buddhist term - has been struck a vital blow, and this arouses resistance. But in all such engagements, Mara is doomed to defeat, for the power that has burst forth is united with the inexhaustible Fount. The only effective defense for Mara would be complete indifference. For if Mara causes any man to fight the Light, that man, sooner or later, is conquered by the Light and then becomes One with It. St Paul affords us the classic example. He fought earnestly and sincerely so that quickly the Light conquered him and claimed him for Its own. From the standpoint of Mara there is nothing more dangerous than an effort to slay a Sage or a Mystic. The latter, in Their real Natures are invulnerable and, in the end, win to themselves their would be slayers. FMW Thanks Mel, Love ya

From 'I-Ching'

Simplicity - the root of the substance. The fundamental law underlying everything in the universe is utterly plain and simple, no matter how abstruse or complex some things may appear to be.

Thanks D
Love ya

[Fluent Piffle]

Rumi - Guest House This being human is a guest house Every morning a new arrival. A joy, a depression, a meanness, some momentary awareness comes as an unexpected visitor. Welcome and entertain them all! Even if they are a crowd of sorrows, who violently sweep your house empty of its furniture, still treat each guest honorably. He may be clearing you out for some new delight. The dark thought, the shame, the malice, meet them at the door laughing, and invite them in. Be grateful for whoever comes, because each has been sent as a guide from beyond.

Thank you drifter.

I accept your apology.



pif.

[N0B0DY]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Right and then lets apply gravity to such a situation and see how it behaves. Probably that too can be quantised..

It's often difficult to follow the gist due to all the quantum commotion, but when we use time dilation (which can be unified with gravity) as the sole source for all relative phenomena, we no longer require particulate matter or warpable space - we can call it "Quantiming." We are essentially breaking up space into quanta with time instead of warping space with mass, equating space with matter, and time with mass or energy. To do this, we have to forget about attraction - even in the case of opposite charges - and use a Super-Special Relativity to replace it with a push, like waves pushing bubbles in water concordant with the cumulative effects of Chaos Theory.

People ask me why "matter" is denser in certain places than others, but we have to remember that the place doesn't change. It is always the same zero-dimensional place, but different dimensional times - to be consistent with time creating incremental spatial dimensions, mass, energies, charges, etc.. There can be an infinite number of cumulative timeframes representative of decay rates, which sets the parameters of the various densities; the less stable the quantum, the less dense the mass, the less time it takes to convert to energy, and the more energy there is to create the charges.

In short, G = mc² applies to Quantum Gravity asE = mc² applies to Special Relativity.

[Drifter]

If that's what it takes pif, so be it, even though we may never agree on how the other individually appears, in each others eyes, or to the other members of the board.
Collectively we both look like immature children and it's not really my style, I'm sure you will agree.
So, lets leave it at that?
I won't infer on you or your posts, no blind-siding, or speaking in third party, mocking, making fun of, antagonizing, or condescending terms as if the other isn't here, and ask the same reciprocal respect in return. Fair enough?
Warmest regards Pif
Man up?
Sincerely
D.

ps. As gentlemen lets say: The first one to violate this truce dismiss himself from all further posting on this thread?

Any observing member can point out the infraction.

Agreed?

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle Thank you drifter. I accept your apology. pif.

[Fluent Piffle]

Originally Posted by Drifter If that's what it takes pif, so be it, even though we may never agree on how the other individually appears, in each others eyes, or to the other members of the board. Collectively we both look like immature children and it's not really my style, I'm sure you will agree. So, lets leave it at that? I won't infer on you or your posts, no blind-siding, or speaking in third party, mocking, making fun of, antagonizing, or condescending terms as if the other isn't here, and ask the same reciprocal respect in return. Fair enough? Warmest regards Pif Man up? Sincerely D. ps. As gentlemen lets say: The first one to violate this truce dismiss himself from all further posting on this thread? Any observing member can point out the infraction. Agreed?

What am I to make of someone who calls me an <offensive> one minute, and has 'warm regards' the next?

I am here only to discuss the Objective Reality we all necessarily must share. You see this as a personal attack, but I once again assure you it is not.

I have already said I will accept your apology. This used to be considered a remark of respect among true gentle-men. Please, let it be so.




pif.

[Drifter]

Just can't let it go can you?

Anybody ever tell you, the more you kick a pile of <offensive comment removed by moderator>

Just stop with the inferenceing and see it for just what it is, a truce, grown-up gentlemanly agreement?

I was hoping the last post was the end of this and I tried to be as honest and humble and "gentlemanly" civil as possible, but you continue to push buttons, I serious wonder about you???? Stop with the pity-party already.

Can't you just agree, and let it go at that?

Originally Posted by Fluent Piffle What am I to make of someone who calls me an <offensive> one minute, and has 'warm regards' the next? I am here only to discuss the Objective Reality we all necessarily must share. You see this as a personal attack, but I once again assure you it is not. I have already said I will accept your apology. This used to be considered a remark of respect among true gentle-men. Please, let it be so. pif.

[neutralino]

Ok, that's enough. I don't see that this arguing will ever stop in this thread. I've also looked back and seen that members have been reminded by both myself, and mkirkpatrick, on several occasions that the language and tone of posts is unacceptable, yet do not seem to listen.

Since I (and I presume the rest of the moderators) are not willing to scan through this thread every day removing swear words, or other abusive comments, I am left with not choice but to close this thread. Perhaps now would be a good time for all members to review the Forum Posting Guidelines.

Nobody, please feel free to start a new thread on your theory, if you wish, and we shall all collectively try to keep it on topic and amicable.