[bfancis]

What happens to two people watching the football match, is different from two that of two reference frames which Einstein proposed.If we are to know the earths origin we need four reference frames,where one caters for particles moving at speeds close to that of light[special relativity], and the other for speeds greater than that of light[wide relativity].

[mkirkpatrick]

Gravity seems to be well in the frame for a contender?And of course thought,now if a idea
arises simultaneously within the mind of the sender and the contactee,with say time.and
space,and distance cancelled out,then would such an ubiquitous event be classed as speed
at all?One would prehaps doubt it!

I wonder what Albert would have said?


regards michael.

[Lloyd Gillespie]

Originally Posted by bfancis What happens to two people watching the football match, is different from two that of two reference frames which Einstein proposed.If we are to know the earths origin we need four reference frames,where one caters for particles moving at speeds close to that of light[special relativity], and the other for speeds greater than that of light[wide relativity].

Hi bfancis, so do you mean by wide relativity, a speed of light faster than our speed of light, such as that which existed at the explosion of the big bang? If so, it's another tool in the arsenal of simplification in our descriptions... I'd say it could be stated as, "Today's narrow relativity and the black hole's wide relativity, of the speeds of light." Sounds fine to me, and also matches Dave's black hole velocity differences, then and now, and mine, of radiation density variations of c over time...

Regards,
Lloyd