Toronic Concepts

[G_burnett]

I know you guys i am taking a long time on the singularity of the electron picture. The reason in the torus structure i am doing this is for the clarity of why the structure only gives the one negative or positive state effect able to a dimension value. the motion of the torus in static not linear motion indicates by the motion predictable able to be not just held but controlled to a less erratic cyclic picture while in a transient motion state by other causal. Up the line this means with a nucleus proton -> neutron (1...) the control is more clear possibly. I will not commit to that yet as the atomic construction may be self causal to a state of control of the electron that prohibits the external control predicting. If the torus is in all prediction in all orbital paths around a nucleus in an atomic structure and it is controlled by the Magnetic Field the torus is generating as self causal to a symmetry of direction on the y-axis of the atomic then the nucleus should be movable.

[dleviwing]

(Just teasing here Dave) .... what would be the result of the Mirror-image-Anti-Matter-Hydrogen coming into contact with our normal Matter hydrogen ??

Is symmetry restored ?? Sorry for such a hard one ... lolol

cool bananas ... greg

Matter anti-matter interactions result in both objects being converted to energy and thus both objects are of the same fundamental substance. If you were able to produce a mirror image element and bring it in contact with its normal matter equivalent then I would have to say they would just cancel each other out of existence; no energy, no matter, and no observable aftermath other than an absolute void; just an absolute vanishing act. When you violate symmetry, you cancel existence.

[G_burnett]

when you have Toronic symmetry Dave, one polar state is transferred to the y-axial while the other is an emit potential pulse based on the right or left handed rules ... how long does it exist? is it a matter how long or why it might wink out? It transfers in the emit ability to do work in wave in all directions until it does work or wave effect moves it in causal to .. varied state. Bohr radius considered in the Toronic structure i am picturing allows for the add but no change of symmetry just nucleus expanding of the orbit and align of the electron ... maybe it is indeed more the add/subtraction of nucleus then the add of electrons the interest that should be had. ... i am still working on the clarity of my model and find in the geometric reality there is a pseudo electron state with equality to the positron standard describe and still an anti particle possible of both beyond that. ... but then just because of what is the emit forward or out and what is the z-point containment transfer to the y-axis ... IMHO

the pseudo state would seem to interact as above noted with a wink out of exist perpendicular but the other ... there may be a construct possible to consider with a nucleus add in the geometric view where there is not a wink out of exist but an allow of radius expand ... relativity considered: in the symmetry it would not change from the stand in the flow but for our view outside the tube .. it would seem to go faster ... hmm interesting.

kind regards graham

[G_burnett]

I am so tired these days

i am trying to imagine and model the toronic structure in geometric reality to where the consideration must be to the created state and not the determined state. Thus would incorporate clarrity of my {- + -} et al over wave scribble and bongos.

the two states are indeed in the geometric quite different using the torus model and transfer ponder to the x-plane and the IMHO y-axial picture for quadrant detemination magnetic polar state pulse on that y-axial.

Based on spin considered and causal the created has state forward emit changed .. a transfer of the causal? or a structual demand in the geometric reality only? or a toronic structure demand?

I believe it be a toronic structure demand, clarified in the geometric reality of a quadrant determination and created by causal of other field pulse.

when the polar state is not given to the singularity of the z-point transfer we have the Photon. ... thus said we are with a mobius or no mobius structure in the tube for the difference ...or?
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this is of course trying to stay out of the mass no mass arguements to replys .. can such reply be made out of those frames?

Sage is having fun tonight ..

Kind regards graham

[dleviwing]

It's not that complex Graham! Look into virtual particles.
BTW: there is no such thing as a singularity if you use current definitions.

[Graybeard]

Matter anti-matter interactions result in both objects being converted to energy and thus both objects are of the same fundamental substance.

Doesn't this tell us something ?

If you were able to produce a mirror image element

The Laws of physics don't disallow it ?

If you were able to produce a mirror image element and bring it in contact with its normal matter equivalent then I would have to say they would just cancel each other out of existence; no energy, no matter, and no observable aftermath other than an absolute void; just an absolute vanishing act.

My understanding is that gamma-rays are given off in this interaction

When you violate symmetry, you cancel existence.

The weak force interactions violate parity ? This implies that parity is not a symmetry of the Universe. It may be the opposite is correct, an imbalance in symmetry is what creates existence

cool bananas ... greg

[G_burnett]

It's not that complex Graham! Look into virtual particles.
BTW: there is no such thing as a singularity if you use current definitions.

yes still looking, sorry to make it sound so complicated but with quadrant determine then there is a clarity of fluid dynamic position and thus interaction potential ... applied science lol

I understand the definition of singularity in the current use. The gentleman in me demanded i give answer to why the observation is made still by the learned eye knowing they "see" what is in front of them yet can not go deeper to understand why they view a singularity or can view a singularity. ... what i mean is i do not believe they are cavaliers of misinformation .. just saying what they percieve. yea and some can be idiots ...
With giving the quadrant to the determination of a singularity as in some such as a vortex or a singularity of charge such as the negative charge forward of the electron or the positive effect forward of the positron or the non linear electron or positron as i have presented using your fine Toronic conceptional model in ponder ... now there is clarity in the geometric reality that is much harder to deny then math geeks maybe just wanting to describe a lack of intuitive logic on there part and a show why one sees a singularity so in those famous words "go figure" everyone ... heh heh ... I am having cake.
our late bongo buddy little wave squiggly thingies fail to the new clarity of a y-axis pictorial in the Toronic concept but i will probably be dead and gone before others realize it, after all!.. who am i? hmm cake is good. kind regards graham

[G_burnett]

Doesn't this tell us something ?

The Laws of physics don't disallow it ?


My understanding is that gamma-rays are given off in this interaction

The weak force interactions violate parity ? This implies that parity is not a symmetry of the Universe. It may be the opposite is correct, an imbalance in symmetry is what creates existence

cool bananas ... greg

It tells us the mirror may be the transient future state of exist ... the other half of a sine wave for the example
and as such is not a law break...
in the thought experiment Dave is corrrect ... in the misconcieved mirror you are correct ...
in daves there is a flash of light and yours is the remmant of light entropic

the last part i do not agree with greg .. I do not think the weak force interactions violate parity .. please show me where this happens and i will show you the reconnect ESA findings again to explain the paradox? IDK .. kind regards ... graham

[Graybeard]

It tells us the mirror may be the transient future state of exist ... the other half of a sine wave for the example and as such is not a law break... in the thought experiment Dave is corrrect ... in the misconcieved mirror you are correct ... in daves there is a flash of light and yours is the remmant of light entropic

Sorry Graham .. my fault .. I am not referring to a Mirror here ... should have explained better ... I am referring to reflexion symmetry.

the last part i do not agree with greg .. I do not think the weak force interactions violate parity .. please show me where this happens and i will show you the reconnect ESA findings again to explain the paradox? IDK .. kind regards ... graham

I can show you here .... lol

In 1957, Lee, at age 30 or 31, depending on announcement date or ceremony date, with C. N. Yang won the Nobel Prize in Physics for their work on the violation of parity law in weak interaction, which Chien-Shiung Wu experimentally verified.

... for their penetrating investigation of the so-called parity laws which has led to important discoveries regarding the elementary particles ...

Wu took Cobalt and surrounded it with an intense magnetic field, and lowered its temperature. As cobalt decays it gives off electrons ... and these are ejected according to the orientation of the magnetic field which surrounds the Cobalt.

Lee and Yang predicted that more electrons would be given off at one pole than the other and asked for experimentalists to test the hypothesis, Wu achieved this result with Cobalt.

What this means in simple terms is that it is possible to distinguish left from right and north from south. because they are different.

In 1956 and early 1957, physicist C. S. Wu and her colleagues conducted an ingenious experiment showing that—at least in the case of radioactive decay—nature knows left from right.

Wu’s work verified a hypothesis put forth in 1956 by her Columbia colleague Tsung-Dao Lee and Chen-Ning Yang that, unlike all other known physical forces, the "weak" interactions among decaying particles are not always symmetrical in nature. Before Wu’s measurements, the laws of physics had always shown complete symmetry between left and right—the world reflected in a mirror appeared no less possible than the world in front of it.

As a result of her measurements, on the afternoon of January 15, 1957 the Department of Physics at Columbia University called a press conference to announce the dramatic overthrow of this basic law of physics, known as conservation of parity. The next day, The New York Times carried a front-page headline, “Basic Concept in Physics Reported Upset in Tests,” and the news quickly spread.

CLICK for WU

Further experiments confirmed parity violation ..... CLICK for Lederman

And for more ..... CLICK for Symmetry destroyed: The failure of Parity.

Graham .... for me, there is no paradox ... I am not sure how you re-join this broken symmetry ..... but it can be re-joined in a manner that is extremely satisfying in as much as it gives us the possibility for understanding the make-up of Dark Matter.

The fact that reflexion symmetry is obeyed by gravity, the EM force and the strong force ... but broken by the weak force has important consequences on matter in our Universe. It opens up (for me) a field of speculation which ...... (IMO) shows a pointer to the make-up of Dark Matter.

cool bananas ... greg

[G_burnett]

maybe the thought should be the prefer of a sine or a cosine wave ... nah too simple ... preference in the cyclic would only be due to "time" oh oh right, some one said that .."space time" ...

kind regards graham

after thought ...Cobalt is not a good test element .. neo-cobalt be better .. but you have to figure it out why yourself due to restrictive subject matter ..