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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    Thanks for the link Lloyd. Moving right along there but i am hesitant to commit to the mass formation via vis fundimental substance with out a conect to the quarks and the electron wave variant potential to the bond creation pictured. (will i face excomunication from the church and what was that word? .. hmmm) I see it coming together up the line to my postulations and you are quite right to the variant set though i pass over them in some degree as i am above in the electron spin realm and the positron spin will be a present later to clarity that should match those variant you note including after ponder given to the psudo state you include as a variant state observation and should be considered on a platform of it own? well i have a court hearing for a traffic ticet i am making a cival war out of today so i have to take my neck tie adornment to the court now. .. sorry i cannot stay more .. take care graham

    There are three positions of view relative to my diagrams and they wil lcome out on the transient wave form as -> [(-), (-), (+)] and each of a view varient from the static [- + -] ... hmm ok have to go college is closed on friday for lib use and this is a big cost here at the cafe. .. sage

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    Try this Graham>>> Link...

    Plus the preceding posts at this link over the last few days...
    Max Planck, said that “all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration which holds the atom together. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    My reading conprehension isn't great, but it appears to me that you are saying that the two vortexes are driven together by forces of waves pushing them together -- am I right? If that is what you are saying then I would have to agree. Force wave particles fill the aether and compact the core of quarks and leptons. If the most basic particles in nature is particles that can only travel in x,y,z directions plus or minus then all particles would form a fixed cube to the alignment of space. Then if there are two basic particles in nature a vacuum wave particle that is the reverse movement of a pressure wave particle in forward time and each face on a quark or lepton is rarefied space then incoming plus and minus basic particles would smash into the field and reduce to ambiant space that has kinetic energy and this would compact the core and form a vortex at the surface. A pressure and vacuum field would have equal kinetic energy when formed an the remaining charge at the face would remain unchanged. A mix of pressure and vacuum field particles at the face of quarks and leptons cannot happen due to a string or time-line of the aether. If two people walk side by side into a stretched rope they will be drawn together -- if they come together from opposite sides of the rope they will repell -- in other words opposite charges would repel at the face of the quark or lepton leaving only one charge.

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    i would like to add the clarity of the set [-+ -] and variant order that it discribe is one of the observable forward transient state of the wave effect able point forward in a circumference shell expand of a core as -> [ + - - ] with a cosine wave push or negative value push MF and the variant with a sine wave discribe of [ - - + ] with such a positive push .. right, how can you have a negative push when it would be a pull paradox view .. I should let you think of this a bit sage tells me but it becomes apparent when the pictorial is referenced to a certain clarity. Remember the atraction and the repel rule and we have [-] with a two factor value of degree and [+] with only half unless we have a photon and a muon release seperation of the structure. .. if this is not clear in an understand for a platform of view to my postulation it will not be understood or apreciated to advance clarity.

    The second thought to present this day would be a review of the pole in the structure as in ward and out not a surface orb north and south pole but in the vanity define a center inward and a point of effect able position forward ... thus define in vanity designation made is give to my postulation of negative and positive pole state standard view.

    Do i believe in a singularity of polar state exist? ... that is saying to me we can create and destroy energy not just transfer it so i would say no as even the muon wave [-] or [+] would be determined in a transient state with two polar positions of view potential of forward view and behind the wave view ... both in the agree potential to manifest forward as positive or negative and the opposite determine behind viewed.

    As one would ponder this post keep in mind that there is an observation of quark structure to consider yet as the pulse of the universe explained in the Toronic concept add of the inverted y-axial function for the 90 degree scatter standard in spinier was a transfer through the inverted y function degrade ... northern lights reveal .

    hmm, well as you can read i have had a coffee today and my mind is working overtime.

    The vortex creation is in the transient multi connect of pushed electron wave structure passing in an effect able distance to other electron structure of transient, static or conjoined ... on the y-axial inverted function that emits the transfer on 90 degree in the combined two 45 degree connect ... to varied effect of emit register. I do not know what this is so hard to understand spacedout?

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    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    I feel i am juggling a lot here Dave.

    There is three view of the toronic structure with directional transient non cyclic motion considered of a controled state of containment with direction of a wave ... the forward state effect able point singularity of the structure, the radi side emit coming at you this point singularity forward in spinier and the final of a transfer connect point in behind to the other wave pulse and all three thus said having a state of effect able polar of a designation

    {[ - - +] <- } ... ?

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    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    ok being in my attic for a bit i have a question best for this ponder i think.

    how many electron can be in the tubular toronic stucture at the same time in a consideration of a shell forward value of one given sliced to a toronic structure view where in the tube there must be extra potential capable .... and then on such the thought would this be a combined free radical increase or a pulsed potential increase if the difference is clear ... taken in though is of course the rule of varied orbital but that does not mean a rule for a free radical electron charge not attached .. and then is this the value determinate of what dimension fior the real brains of you ..

    kind regards graham
    Max Planck, said that “all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration which holds the atom together. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    If the 6 faces of the core, of quarks and leptons, have a 3-phase rythem spin then the electrons would have to rotate at a given rate to the rhythm of the 3-phases of the core of an atom. The electron would also have a 3-phase rhythm all the orbits would have a interger distance from the nucleus (1 -- 2-- 3 --). The energy for the spin comes from vacuum and pressure crossed chain wave particles that occur by chance as random movements of space chains align as a wave through the x,y,z stepped path of the aether time-line -- a chance formation of a pressure wave would also form a vacuum crossed chain wave particle -- this is the reason that charges in the univers are equal. Each orbit would have an integer increase in spin speed.

    I believe in Max Born's rhymatic probability waves at the surface of a core. If two opposite sides come together the other two will move outward -- there isn't any reason a 3-phase rhythm would form. Field particles plunging into each face of the core would feed the three-phase atomic electric motor (natures smallest motor).

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    An aether vortex at the faces of the core of quarks and leptons must also be part of the orbiting system of the atom. Each electron in its integer orbit will also experience repulsion between other electrons in orbit around the nucleus and spread out -- the face charges at that large of a distance will diffuse evenly as a sphere. Consequently the orbits should have a variation of the integer orbit -- however, the rounds/time will be constant for each orbit. The magnetic vortex forces and energy from bombarding force fields (such as photons) constitute the arrangements of the orbits.

    The formula 2n^2 shows 2 possible electrons in the first orbit, 8 electrons in the second orbit, 18 in another orbit. However, the orbits are altered by repulsion between electrons in orbit. Also, moving electrons have electric magnetic fields that cause parallel electrons to attract against the electric repulsion fields. Correct me if I am wrong as I'm limited on the spatial arrangements of orbiting electrons. Electrons that orbit in opposite directions cancel the magnetic fields and two electrons orbiting one another will have a north and south pole -- I quess this is a bipolar bond.

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    hmm i had a brain connect the other day that if you use the scattering proof you get an answer to how many in the same orbital and the number is ALLWAYS prime ... hmmm there you go, the geometric reality quadrant determination solves the calculation of prime problem. ... isnt there a million out on that one getting solved? ... oh well guess someone else got it, i never have.... back to my white board!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    Ok ... Dave to hope of further conversation here I will explain i used the drafting trick of going to a side view in my wave packet pictorial and got the vortex in the creation of the wave that gives contained spin in transient motion once created ... I believe in Vincent thread the math is there to the dimension need of that given till we reach a radius determinate (vanity) of the shell ... hmmm for clarity I will add the MF shell dimension is a vanity determinate not the shell itself in a frame drag which is an exist. It will i believe now in further ponder to advance the clarity a QT marry using the [- + -] ..., art, the side view pictorial will be a boon to my presentations on this.
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    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!

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    Re: Toronic Concepts

    if i use my art Dave to the [- + -] set discribe i have indeed been unclear.

    the set is a discribe of the {[-,+] + [-]} event of creation of the toronic structure, polar forward able to register in the vanity determinate of negative. I guess it would be better to post the [-] + [-] torque event of the MF in the transient wave that creates the [+] transfer point or z on the x axial vector permit to discribe the pulse two phase. Hmmm ok that was my edit.

    I ran into the need for clarity in the loss of the Muon radient during a transfer event that made much other clear to my ponder and given postulations.

    In those famous words, mine now to the Toronic Structure ponder ... "FAR OUT!" (late rocky mountain high song singer) ...

    Thank you

    kind regards graham
    Max Planck, said that “all matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration which holds the atom together. We must assume behind this force is the existence of a conscious and intelligent mind. This mind is the matrix of all matter.

    and ....from an old master ... Ancora impara!


 

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