Time dilation in Gravity fields

[Tony Stanton]

This is how time dilation works inside and outside gravity fields according to the theory of three dimensional spacetime. I would be interested to here your comments.

Tony
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Time dilation inside and outside gravitational fields

[mkirkpatrick]

This is how time dilation works inside and outside gravity fields according to the theory of three dimensional spacetime. I would be interested to here your comments.

Tony
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Time dilation inside and outside gravitational fields

Thank you Tony for this most interesting thread topic,maths are not good points,in
fact I am pretty hopeless at maths altogether,but I do understand the principle.

We know of clocks,but what about a human being,could a human being survive a
dilationary episode?What do you think?


regards michael.

[Tony Stanton]

Hi Michael

Thank you Tony for this most interesting thread topic,maths are not good points,in
fact I am pretty hopeless at maths altogether,but I do understand the principle.

We know of clocks,but what about a human being,could a human being survive a
dilationary episode?What do you think?

We are already surviving a dilationary episode by being immersed inside a gravitational field. Time beats very slightly faster in space than it does here on Earth. The deeper you go inside the gravity field the more your time will slow down as viewed by those in space. Time is dilated by gravity and acceleration so to keep track of Universal time all forces of acceleration in the frame under question must be known.

It is a complicated subject but very interesting all the same.

Tony

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Time dilation

[mkirkpatrick]

Thank you for the reply Tony,seems logical?

regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Though the interpretive paradigm of Relativity may be in question, the mathematical formalism of the observations and measurement are correct. The fact that you are treating space-time as a localized property rather than pure geometry only makes it ethereal in nature; better in the interpretation but not in the formalism. The advantage to the TR approach seems to be that it is adaptable to QM. I find both interpretive paradigms to be flawed.

[theunify]

Tony from what has been said in this thread I can only ask " What good does TR do us right now?"

Nobody will be able to experience any of this for the long time, what if any are the applied aspects of your theory?


Applied - As in Applied Science, something that would be valueable aside from 'aha I told you so mathematica"

Some terms to mention, Cost, Natural REsources, profit, demand.

[Tony Stanton]

David

Though the interpretive paradigm of Relativity may be in question, the mathematical formalism of the observations and measurement are correct. The fact that you are treating space-time as a localized property rather than pure geometry only makes it ethereal in nature;

Yes it may seem that it is ethereal in nature but with many differences to any other theory of spacetime, one being gravity is time dependant. The whole concept is based around simple geometry and its simplicity is why I think it may hold merit. TR can match Newtonian gravity within the confines of the solar system where we know the effect of gravity to be true without the use of Newton’s universal gravitational constant which has never been achieved by any professional or institution to date.
It is possible with the right facilities to test TR’s predictions on time dilation to those of GR but unfortunately those facilities are not available to me at this moment in time.

better in the interpretation but not in the formalism. The advantage to the TR approach seems to be that it is adaptable to QM.

It certainly provides an explanation for quantum entanglement as for how adaptable it is to QM I’m not sure at this stage of TR’s development.

I find both interpretive paradigms to be flawed.

Please explain David.

Tony

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Time dilation

[Tony Stanton]

theunify

Tony from what has been said in this thread I can only ask " What good does TR do us right now?"
Nobody will be able to experience any of this for the long time, what if any are the applied aspects of your theory?
Applied - As in Applied Science, something that would be valueable aside from 'aha I told you so mathematica"
Some terms to mention, Cost, Natural REsources, profit, demand.

If you had bothered to read this paper properly you would see that I provide a list of the possible benefits from TR on the last page.
Math is important to explain any real theory but if you are having trouble understanding TR from the point of view of the math then I will publish an article that explains the concept of TR without using math.

Tony
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Time dilation

[dleviwing]

Hi Tony;
Both your theory special Relativity, and General Relativity are interpreted as if time is an independent entity of the universe. Time is a reference to a cyclic motion period that we use to communicate motion concepts. When time is added to the spatial dimensions, it only produces mathematical geometry based on the relationship of moving bodies. Like Relativity, your math does not include the physical limits of reality; probably because they are not well known or understood. You concept allows for implementation of probability and uncertainty methodology. Maybe you should try to incorporate this in your math.

I hope you don’t feel I’m being critical; I would tell Einstein the same thing.

[theunify]

theunify



If you had bothered to read this paper properly you would see that I provide a list of the possible benefits from TR on the last page.
Math is important to explain any real theory but if you are having trouble understanding TR from the point of view of the math then I will publish an article that explains the concept of TR without using math.

Tony
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Time dilation

I've read your paper before, maybe not this particular one, but I am quite fluent in theoretical physics, I'm sure nothing you can provide is over my head; I would actually be more comfortable with more math, not less.
Time dialation, Lorentz Transformation is the most basic concept of Einstein's theory. If you really want to impress us, why don't you take some of those Unified Equations he was working on and finish them....There are some on the cover of his book, I believe some notebooks exist on exhibition around the world that contain some of those equations, and maybe even a movie clip of him next to a chalkboard; have a go at the important stuff Tony.

U,i,k = 4/3 U,r,k + 2/3 U,k,r
U,k = -4/3 U,k + 2/3U,i,k

T,i,k = U,i,k + 4/2 - 2/3 (-2 U,i.......
T,i,k = U,i,k + ( - 2/3 U,i + 1/3 U,r,i) $,k + ( -2/3 U,k + 1/3.......
From the cover of Relativity, Special translation by Robert W Lawson.