[dleviwing]

Mark;
Your posts were merged; no editing was done. It is customary to use the blog forum when you wish to talk to yourself without having others respond to your post.

Though I find your theory to be nothing more than a belief system that hardly qualifies as a “High Level View”, it may only require being moved to the proper forum. At least you don’t claim your views to be scientific!

[ChildofGod]

I do agree that the thread is in the wrong place. I didn't see the "Your Theory" branch. My apologies. You may move the entire thread if you wish. I know what it's like to try and keep data organized. Done the admin thingy!

Thanks,
Mark

Science and Spirituality will merge. There is order in the code. It has two primary rules. 1. Replication 2. Consume all of the pieces that make up the whole and they will assemble.

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by ChildofGod My point is this; When someone views something that doesn't agree with them, they instinctively want to change it into agreement to their own beliefs. Everyone is creating their now, based on what they have been taught, but more importantly, on what they themselves believe to be true. Whether or not the truth is being revealed is irrelevalant. The relevance is that what is being revealed is what is believed as truth. What a person believes to be true, will be true for them. Thanks, Mark

Mark .....
We are all free to hold our own opinions ... but to comment on your first 3 points, I feel that they are very subjective. That is you wish to submit whatever it is you are trying to understand to fit within your own set of boundaries. Not everyone does this as you imply. Many people, including many on this forum, are willing to suspend their own personal beliefs in the search for a true understanding ... they are willing to go wherever the road takes them no matter that it often takes them from their own inner beliefs. This is a true objective approach.

We all suffer from stereotypical views ... we all need them for our own personal wellbeing, but these are our subjective friends, do not let them become an objective guide.

Your 4th point I would rephrase ... What is true, is true for all, regardless of what any individuals within that all may think.

cool bananas ... greg

[ChildofGod]

We may well have to respectfully disagree.

There is no "out there" independent of self. When you remove the inner self from the equation, you have nothing left. To abandon the mind itself, and search for truth as though it exists in some external form, other than thoughts, is a dead end road.



You see it as a stereotypical viewpoint, because you have classified it as such within your own mind. I got this view through total abandonment of man's ideals, Bible included. And now that I further explore my view, I can see that which is true and that which is lie, the Bible equates to truth. It is the TOE. (Truth On Earth)

Thoughts are the center of our universe, IMHO.

Thanks,
Mark

[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by ChildofGod I do agree that the thread is in the wrong place. I didn't see the "Your Theory" branch. My apologies. You may move the entire thread if you wish. I know what it's like to try and keep data organized. Done the admin thingy! Thanks, Mark Science and Spirituality will merge. There is order in the code. It has two primary rules. 1. Replication 2. Consume all of the pieces that make up the whole and they will assemble.

Thanks Mark,I agree,think that science and spirituality will merge,not if,but when!



regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick Thanks Mark,I agree,think that science and spirituality will merge,not if,but when!

Science and spirituality will only merge if religion once again becomes the governing rule of the people. Like in the dark ages, they can then dictate belief as truth and do away with all those who oppose them. Do you really want to be ruled by the religious freaks? If so move to Iran.
I guess they could merge if JC returns and gives a better performance than David Copperfield.

[mkirkpatrick]

Thanks most kindly for your biggoted and most professional opinion,just the sort of
thing this forum needs,as a super-moderator you are setting an example of the sort
of thing that many will find utterly distasteful,you are a disgrace to this forum.

regards michael.

[dleviwing]

Thank you Michael; from you I consider that a complement.

[ChildofGod]

Religion. A word I have not used once until now. I personally see religion as part of the world's problems. Too many interpretations of truth. There is but one truth. There is but one absolute power. The only religion I subscribe to is truth. There are way too many labels, and more importantly, way too many people hung up on labels. We fight over symantics.

Ya know, Out of all of the water worlds that likely exist in our universe, I'll bet this is the only one where "intelligent life" spends his consecutive 10^-43 wallowing in the muck of his own demise! Earthlings are stupid creatures!

Mankind's problems are all about the power of oppression. Nations wish to hold their status among nations as in the highest respect, regarding power. This requires the military might of the government, which requires ignorant masses , which requires major oppression, which requires supression of information.

We don't live in those kind of days any longer. We have an Information Superhighway! Try and hide the truth now! People are waking up. The truth is only a few mouse clicks away from those who are diligent seekers.

China, still to this day, censors their peoples internet access at a user level. And just like the Berlin Wall, that curtain will also crumble in time!

The truth is leaking out all over the world, and the world is changing because of it!

Science and Spirituality will most definately complete it's merge. It has already begun!

No one can stop it now, the tools are all in place. One world united under the power of the absolute, in the only religion necessary, TRUTH! And we all shall be FREE!

We can't have a unified feild, until we wake up and make it happen. If someone spelled out the perfect equation today, and set it down in front of you, where you had no disputes about it. Could you put it into action for yourself? Theories are useless words on paper without application. Change is an individual decision. While we don't want to be told what to think, we don't want to change from the status quo either. My theory does not even suggest what to think, simply how to free the mind from it's clutter, and use it for creation, peace and tranquility.

There will be those that hang on to the comfortable ol' shoes for as long as they can. Ultimately, they will become the minority group.

Thanks for participating in the topic,
Mark

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by ChildofGod We may well have to respectfully disagree. There is no "out there" independent of self. When you remove the inner self from the equation, you have nothing left. To abandon the mind itself, and search for truth as though it exists in some external form, other than thoughts, is a dead end road. .................................................. ................................ Thoughts are the center of our universe, IMHO. Mark

Mark ... respectfully ... am I to read this as 'The Universe does not exist' when the inner self is removed from the equation?

I am sure you don't mean this. Therefore the Universe must exist independent of our awareness... and in doing so must obey a set of physical laws that can be used to explain it. These are the rules that in order to understand we must relinquish our own personal perceptions. These laws exist and operate independant and regardless of us


cool bananas .... greg