[austintorn@aol.com]

The Decomposition of Being and Reality

The components of being, or living a life, seem to be creating, direction, growth, and planning.

Being creative, or forming something new, comes from continued learning combined with a change in structure.

Direction, or where you’re heading, results from adjustments made from learning and a change of outlook.

Growth, or what you are becoming, is a change of outlook combined with the vision of your future.

Planning, or design, is having the vision for a change in structure.


As for learning, it is accomplished through the remembrance of history—its successes and failures, as well as through education supplying the same.

Change of outlook derives from the continual remembrance of your wishes and dreams that allows you to make changes to your course.

A change in structure is the progression from history.

Vision is the ability to see what can become.


History is the matter of the past.

Remembrance is the past stored away in a space.

Wishes and dreams are a space that is to be in the future.

Progression is the matter of the future.


Space is a place for stuff and is defined by the reach electromagnetic radiation which facilitates action and motion and is a part of the appearance of reality.

Matter is the stuff of many forms in a the place of space and is a part of the appearance of reality.

The past is what was of movement (time).

Future is what can become of movement (time).

Past into future is reality’s movement through the now.


Past into future and matter and space blend to form the spirit of life that leads to all of the above that forms being.

Reality is movement(past into future) and appearance(space and matter), or movement of matter in space through time.

Our reality resulted from the complex forms and interactions of space, matter, and movement over a long time, evolution keeping track of the advantageous through DNA and discarding the useless through it not thriving.


Matter in its molecular forms came from the combination of atoms.

Matter in its atomic forms of the elements came from the stars (hydrogen, helium, carbon, iron, and oxygen) and from the supernovas of stars (the rest of the elements).

Stars, galaxies, and planets formed from gravity, a secondary effect of the four forces of electric, magnetic, weak and strong.

Atoms are formed of electrons, and protons and neutrons made of quarks, along with facilitation by the weak(decay) and strong(stability) forces, as well as somewhat by the Electric and magnetic forces.


Quarks,photons, and electrons and such with the forces are near to the fundamentals of our universe and are the results or the indestructible predecessors of the “materialization” of our universe.

The ultimate fundamentals, whatever they prove to be, always existed—since they could not have been made out of nothing. Also, they have no parts, making them unbreakable, although this goes without saying.

Complexity "oversees" the universe, but the simplicity of the ultimate fundamentals underlies it—appearances in motion.


So you see that being comes from an understandable chain of events of adaptive organization under the influence of past, future, space and matter from corresponding movement and appearance over 13.75 billion years or so.


A few minor and unimportant supporting details may be slightly off, left out, or glossed over but this is the raw gist of the “proof”. Of course, investigations and refinements continue, thanks to scientists and/or TOE people. Any suggestions?

[Profpat]

Thats a whole lot to think about Austintorn,
but I like thinking so thank you.

While it will take me some time to digest your whole theory, let me address your illustration of the Details of Being.( your last illustration )

1st paragraph: you state TIME IS MOVEMENT.
I viewed time as a measurement of movement.

2nd paragraph: you address a SPACE/MATTER DUALITY.
I thought the duality was mass/energy or wave/particle. I don't think you are wrong, just interesting. In fact I equate energy and space.
One small editorial comment I believe its YIN-YANG.

3rd paragraph:here you introduce the SPIRIT OF LIFE.
To me three big questions are 1) CREATION 2) LIFE and 3) INTELLIGENT LIFE. I guess you do address intelligent life in your last paragraph.

Let me give you a super quick summary of my belief regarding the above.

Before the creation there was void. No time, no space
no motion.
BIG BANG: now we have with the creation of mass/energy and it MOVES through SPACE creating in its own movement TIME and SPACE. And so I thought that time ,space, and motion were all created I guess simultaneously, at the time of Creation. I agree we then evolved into what we are.

Best to you,

Profpat

[austintorn@aol.com]

Movement gets noticed (measured) whenever or never, even long afterwards when we note, say, that the moon moved a lot, but even if we didn’t look, it still moved on its own.

Space and matter share the same arena and each help the other out. At some level it is all mixed together, in a way, but at some point matter gains permanence real quick and it operates in space, a place to roam. But you’re still right about Yin-Yang.

The void pulsates in a structured sequence.
A field is present throughout space immense,
Out of which all particles must condense—
Occurring where the field’s extremely intense.

Atoms are just bundles of inertia,
Knots in the field and fabric of space;
Yet matter defines the structure of space…
The Yin is in the Yang, and vice-versa!

The spirit of life is not a spirit like God, just the emergent power of the mixture of past, future, space and matter.

The end of space is wherever the influence of what it contains ends and can’t afffect or define anything.

A void is thought of these days as absolutely nothing. The vacuum is more or less the same as space, filled with stuff of many shapes and sizes that define it as well. Some use a shorthand of space to refer to both space and matter together.

I think that a void would beget nothing but a void, forever.

Mass/energy and wave/particle as the same as much as they transform into the other. Same with the the past, for it transforms in the future as the now rolls along.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Nothing begets nothing;
therefore, there had to be something;
so, nothing cannot exist;
that is, there was no creation.

I’d then say that the Big Bang or bangs of “materialization”
had to be from previous indestructible material.

(No weirdness of something making itself;
No myth of a single one fundamental thing exhibiting
multiple part systems of intelligence, planning, thinking, or emotions that operate underneath reality to rule and create all that is, including itself.
No strangeness of a complex composite arriving before its parts—to rule by underlying reality;
No superstitious believing on faith,
faith meaning believing in the unseen supernatural
because somebody declared it so.
No complex composite overseeing reality,
whether claiming fundamentalness or not,
since no such alien life forms have been seen.)

Something exists and it produces
time, space, and all that there is;
it just exists because non-existence is impossible.

It preceded the big bang and all that we call forever.
It is likely more than just one thing;
otherwise it would be undifferentiated—
one external unbreakable thing could have no parts.

It seems to be several things at certain levels:
A strong force that help forms and stabilize matter,
a weak opposing force that helps disperse matter through decay,
and an electric force and a magnetic force
which seem to facilitate movement and more.

At lower levels we have all the “ultimate” fundamental “particles” and forces said to be accounted for by strings, but strings are far from believable right now.

Electric and magnetic forces each lead to the other
and so are closely linked as the electromagnetic force.
Note that all forces blend to produce other effects,
like gravity, which also facilitates movement,
and so on through forms of matter on right up to human being (of course via the forming of stars which produce
heavier elements, billions of years of brewing, DNA, and so on).

Movement begets time.
No movement, no time,
just like in the movies when somebody stops time.

Space is defined by the influence of the forces.
Anything beyond this influence is nonexistence,
meaning that it is not there at all in any way.

Human life was a lucky accident,
owing to death as the chooser of the wise from the silly
through natural selection,
events like asteroids wiping out 99.9 % of species,
the fusing of two of our chromosomes—
separating us by making chimp mating impossible, etc.,
and, in general, 13 billion years of unforeseen unplanned happenings. That’s a very long time. Hard to even imagine it.

Consciousness is still somewhat of an enigma,
unless is it simply (probably) the brain’s perception of itself,
although it still seems unique and global and all that.

The brain receives input from the senses and itself,
The brain generates thoughts from the self: our memories,
sense data, goals, wishes, and learned associations.
Some make it to the mind’s eye at different times;
Consciousness (‘I’) observes what is on the mind.

Luckily, we live at peak, atop life’s pile
Of miraculous lives, from eons of wiles.
We’re alive, thanks to all who’ve come before,
So how could we live by any style but to smile?

[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com .. from continued learning .. made from learning .. vision of your future. .. vision for a change .. remembrance of history .. continual remembrance of your wishes and dreams .. progression from history. .. History is the matter of the past. .. Remembrance is the past stored away .. The past is what was of movement .. Future is what can become of movement Any suggestions?

Austin ... When I read your first post the obvious common denominator was 'memory', as you can see from the phrases I quoted. I think you are on to something here.

Originally Posted by From the Wiki The human memory has three processes of memory storage: Encoding, Storage and Retrieval. Encoding is the processing of physical sensory input into one's memory. It is considered the first of three steps in memory information processing. During memory encoding, information may be processed about space, time, and frequency through automatic processing or effortful processing. Storage is the information that is retained, be in the sensory memory, the short-term memory or the more permanent long-term memory. Recollection is the retrieval of memory. It is not a passive process; people employ metacognitive strategies to make the best use of their memory, and priming and other context can have a large effect on what is retrieved. When we try to remember information there are several different techniques we can employ. These are called Measures of Retention.

Memory is the main tool in our adaptability to survive.

Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com So you see that being comes from an understandable chain of events of adaptive organization (memory ??) under the influence of past, future, space and matter from corresponding movement and appearance over 13.75 billion years or so.

You may be on to the meta-physical secret of life. The most obvious difference measurable between Organic and Inorganic, a rock and a plant, may be memory, in the sense of recognition that one is alive. All life (being ?) has memory of some sort. Even slime sunbathe and procreate, tho they are not necessarily sapient! Memory, at its most basic is comparison.

And Memory must have started its evolution as a positive adaptation. It may be something as simple as a molecular queueing arrangement that represents the bigger picture on a minute scale. Memory may be what turns motion into time for us. Memory may be Being,

The secret of life may be on the tip of your tongue. Good post

cool bananas ... greg

[Profpat]

Austintorn;

Is it really easier to believe that our entire universe, was at the beginning, millions of times smaller than a proton, than it is to believe in GOD?

Profpat

[mkirkpatrick]

I wish to say thanks Austin,for a really beautiful piece of work here,a great thread,one thing that popped out of it for me was where you state "complexity oversees the universe,
but simplicity of the ultimate fundamentals underlies it","appearances in motion".

I totally agree with that wonderful way of expressing it Austin,appearances are not what they "seem to be"but rather what they are, un-seemed?


regards michael.

[N0B0DY]

"I’d then say that the Big Bang or bangs of “materialization”
had to be from previous indestructible material."

I think I'd go with this one, Austin, although our interpretation of "material" would most likely be different.

Would you say that the above implies that past memories and future dreams are connected? Also, if we tie in the evolutionary procession to the highest level of complexity at the furthest point of the future, would that information be stored - "Remembrance is the past stored away in a space." - or is it erased?

I think the suggestion that it is stored would do away with notions of a required rna, and support the idea of a universal dna that stores the consequences of the interactions of all scenarios of all times and explain the imperfections of the "fall of man" through degeneracy.

[austintorn@aol.com]

Profpat,

Something like compressed quarks would be very small, but could be visualized from what we've seen in physics as small and simple, but a god has never been seen in any way, just imagined and wished for by brains that naturally look for purpose, but go to far, as we've seen in all of the superstitions and cult behavious of the ages.


Nobody,

Many, like Bob Campbell, think memory and data like RNA and all happenings are recorded in space and I don't see why this couldn't be so. Space could also be holographic. These are just speculations, although memory retrieval seems to be a really fast happening, even noting and processing all asociations and umpteen scenarios of consequences in a blink.

The past of our rememberings flows seamlessly into our present taking-ins and through the imagination into the future and all three have to be connected for us to function.

I don't think man is degenerate, just in the very early stages of evolution, say only 1% of the way along.

[N0B0DY]

Fair enough assessment, Austin, but the latter part would imply a 99% degeneracy if we account for multiple bangs. If the other 99% results from the furthest evolutionary point of a former bang, and remains at the "beginning" of a latter bang.

Btw, from your other posts...you're truly all heart.