An Idea

[Profpat]

Hi JAK;

I have a real long area, thats why I couldnt find where to post.

I thought that if you flip my pipe cleaner model inside out that that maybe you would come up with the other image. I thought maybe every particle had its own anti particle built in with an opposite spin and perhaps charge.

[Profpat]

OK Back to the additive and subtractive color wheels

[Profpat]

I'm having problems posting those chakra colors JAK They have orange and indigo and no cyan so they are a bit different from the additive color wheel. But they do go from red the lowest to violet the highest. This corresponds to the spectrum infrared to ultraviolet. Infrared being the lowest energy level and ultraviolet being the highest.

[Fredrick]

I was a little bit disappointed to see this picture, Pat, since it does not have the originality (in my eyes) to it that the image you created of 8 cubicles forming a 9th cubicle (in my eyes) did have; that picture helped me understand why in eastern visualizations 8 takes in such an important position. I had never considered it important (to be honest, I thought it was a little bit peculiar) until I saw your visualization.

What disappoints me in particular about the 'globe' is that it is identical to the image I discussed with you, Dipayankar, and others on the three thread http://www.toequest.com/forum/your-t...html#post52739 except that I used it to show that one of the three fields is a field 'too much' to deliver the basics: one equator and one meridian already cover the basics. The second meridian appears to complete the picture, but is nothing more than just another meridian, containing the same aspects. [for those not following the link, the two fields contain a spin, so it is the equator that spins the meridian around, while the equator can be considered static; it does not work the other way around -the meridian does not create a second equator- unless we start with an object that contains no spin, but can be given spin, such as a ball]

In as far as the ether is concerned, I think it is a 'phantom' aspect, similar to the 9th cubicle that is formed by the 8 cubicles. It is really there, yet at the same time it really isn't there as well. I delivered you the information about the peculiar aspects of the number 9 in this thread to show that any structure has a peculiar overall (or last) position. While we consider matter, we have to acknowledge that overall positions are peculiar positions that in themselves can also be seen as separate positions (that are and aren't there).

P.S. I do like the little drawing to the right in which I can see a double pyramid.

[Fredrick]

Thank you, Pat, for placing these color pictures (successfully!) online. It reminds me of the discussion Austin and I had with others on the pentaist pyramid in which there are always two sides to light, the direct source of light (like a television screen, with red, blue, and green; portrayed on the right side), and the reflected situation of light (like a painting, with red -actually magenta-, blue and yellow; portrayed on the left). Thank you, I like seeing them visualized like this.

However, in the pentaist pyramid gray takes in an important location not mentioned in these images. Do you have a way to include this important aspect? Thread related question: Do you consider gray the ether of colors?

[Profpat]

Sorry about the disappointment Frederick. No that sphere is not original. I displayed it to show the octants could be in a geodesic spherical shape as well.

As far as gray I view the 9th area, to be black, that is the void space in which it rest. The gray area would be actually the electron, as per this diagram:

[Fredrick]

Thank you for that image, Pat. I did a check on the image you provided:

- and I checked it to see if you made it so that it would be easy to find the ether. That turned out to be not the case. After placing one picture on top of the other, I had to tweak the dial of the left picture to 46% and the dial of the right picture to 57% of opacity to even get close to one of the three colors matching the gray of the back ground.


Getting all three colors to become as gray as the background simply turned out to be impossible. Here is the picture I got, and please look at the amount of gray that was already and truly quite difficult to establish:

As you can tell from the text above the color circles, these are both pictures placed on top of each other; they should be gray in a perfect situation, but they aren't. That's not because it isn't theoretically possible, but they were created by you without having the natural balance of gray in mind. Now, imagine if we weren't talking about anything as simple to display or talk about as colors, but imagine we were trying to communicate to each other about forces, bosons, ether, and the likes...

You have some real explanation to do if you want to portray the back ground black, Pat. Do you consider the universe on average as being black? I am looking forward to your answer.

http://www.pentapublishing.com/Pat.html

[Felix Schrodinger]

I do like the little drawing to the right in which I can see a double pyramid.

Hi Fredrick

I'm intrigued with the double pyramid as well. I have been looking for a possible link with the second electron shell of the atomic structure using the tangrams. How do you see it?

regards
Felix

[Profpat]

Hi Frederick;

That's an interesting overlay. It appears the gray in the middle is darker than the gray in the background. I imagine that to be some optical illusion in that the values should be the same.

Regarding your question:

You have some real explanation to do if you want to portray the back ground black, Pat. Do you consider the universe on average as being black? I am looking forward to your answer.

I imagine the average to be close to black, as it's average temperature is close to absolute zero. Absolute black being the absence of light or color is what I expect the Void to be.

Best to all,

Pat

[Fredrick]

I'm intrigued with the double pyramid as well. I have been looking for a possible link with the second electron shell of the atomic structure using the tangrams. How do you see it?

Hi Felix,

First with Pat's drawing of the 8 cubicles, 8 appears to be much more natural to me than I ever expected before. I remember having the same kind of surprise (of being puzzled) why the second electron shell (and third) has place for up to 8 electrons.

In my theory, a single pyramid already displays all that is needed, and I regard a double pyramid as a curious visualization that may be intriguing, but not telling the story correctly (even kind of blocking a proper view on everything). However, when considering a pyramid as the basis of an abstract delivery of everything, then of course seeing a pyramid shape, albeit a double header, remains an interesting signal about someone's thinking about abstract structures.

What I find interesting is that the first shell to the last shows a jump from:
2 - 8 - 8 - 16 - 16 - 32 - &...
The first shell strongly points to a dual aspect of the principle in our universe (in my theory, duality plays a very important, but not all-exclusive role), and I would see 8 then as 2 to the third power. What is interesting though is that there is not a 'normal' increase, such a 2 to the first, 2 to the second, 2 to the third power, etc. But we see a
2 to the 1st,
2 to the 3rd,
2 to the 3rd,
2 to the 4th,
2 to the 4th
sequence of electrons per shell.
I found something similar (though different) in my mathematical delivery on number zero and the prime numbers.

It is almost as if indicating that the second and third shells (and the fourth and the fifth shells) are paired spatially/structurally, and should possibly be regarded as dual rows, in which one plays the primary role, and the second shell plays the complimentary role (like DNA sequencing?). What are your thoughts, Felix?