An Idea

[Profpat]

Pat (you seem to take this rather lightly),

I'm sorry Frederick, but after 3 heart attacks and having chronic heart failure, I take life rather lightly.

I still however think my An Idea is correct. It may require an interdimensional process, going from the 1st dimension of strings, to the 2nd dimension of quarks, to the 3rd spatial dimension of the proton/neutron, and finally adding the 4th dimension of time allowing for dynamic movement, but I believe it is right.

Also by including the 8 inner dimensions of the octant gives our particle and therefore our reality all we need to explain the human condition.

I find it to be simple and understandable and will stand behind it until proven incorrect.

It's funny how they use to think the Earth was flat and the center of the cosmos. Now we find out that the universe is flat and that the Earth is the center of our cosmos.

Isn't life strange?

Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

If the Universe has a geometic shape, then in all probability there would be centre...

And I agree with you and Frederick, that it should have one. If you find it please let me know. My personal center of gravity is somewhere around my navel, but I don't know where the universe's navel is located.

Best,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

My personal center of gravity is somewhere around my navel, but I don't know where the universe's navel is located.

Dear all

Once again we revert to the thinking that there has to be a single centre for all of creation based on the BB. This is akin to saying that the human race was all born at the same place and time. IMHO each and every galaxy has its own navel which means that we don't have to keep looking for something that doesn't exist and amending expansion/BB theory each time we find it doesn't fit.

Felix

[Profpat]

Sorry Dipayankar but it appears Felix the Cat is right.
Where is the centre of the universe?

There is no centre of the universe! According to the standard theories of cosmology, the universe started with a "Big Bang" about 14 billion years ago and has been expanding ever since. Yet there is no centre to the expansion. It is the same everywhere. The Big Bang should not be visualised as an ordinary explosion. The universe is not expanding out from a centre into space. The whole universe itself is expanding and it is doing so equally at all places, as far as we can tell.

Actually there is something metaphysically pleasing about me being the center of my universe. Something I always egotisically believed.

Best to all,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Do we know what is the exact nature of Big Bang?

Sorry Dipayankar but it appears Felix the Cat is right.
Where is the centre of the universe?

There is no centre of the universe! According to the standard theories of cosmology, the universe started with a "Big Bang" about 14 billion years ago and has been expanding ever since. Yet there is no centre to the expansion. It is the same everywhere. The Big Bang should not be visualised as an ordinary explosion. The universe is not expanding out from a centre into space. The whole universe itself is expanding and it is doing so equally at all places, as far as we can tell.

Actually there is something metaphysically pleasing about me being the center of my universe. Something I always egotisically believed.

Best to all,

Pat

[Profpat]

Where is the center on the surface of this sphere. Remember there is no inside or outside of our universe, just void.

Best,

Pat

P.S Maybe the big bang produced a big bubble that is still expanding.

[Fredrick]

Dear all

Once again we revert to the thinking that there has to be a single centre for all of creation based on the BB. This is akin to saying that the human race was all born at the same place and time. IMHO each and every galaxy has its own navel which means that we don't have to keep looking for something that doesn't exist and amending expansion/BB theory each time we find it doesn't fit.

I agree with you one hundred percent, Felix. While the option is a slight possibility, the importance of the center of the universe is only of importance when wanting to understand the universe' nature. The location of the Big Bang, and if you know my thinking I consider this not a pinpoint but a rather large area right from the start, that location could be proposed as the center of time/space (from our perspective).

[Fredrick]

Pat (you seem to take this rather lightly),

I'm sorry Fredrick, but after 3 heart attacks and having chronic heart failure, I take life rather lightly.

I still however think my An Idea is correct. It may require an interdimensional process, going from the 1st dimension of strings, to the 2nd dimension of quarks, to the 3rd spatial dimension of the proton/neutron, and finally adding the 4th dimension of time allowing for dynamic movement, but I believe it is right.

Also by including the 8 inner dimensions of the octant gives our particle and therefore our reality all we need to explain the human condition.

I find it to be simple and understandable and will stand behind it until proven incorrect.

It's funny how they use to think the Earth was flat and the center of the cosmos. Now we find out that the universe is flat and that the Earth is the center of our cosmos.

Isn't life strange?

Dear Pat,

I think it is great to take life lightly, and enjoy all precious moments as much as we can. But please understand that I did not undermine the ultimate delivery of string theory. The end result is actually the same, it is just the path to getting there that I consider incorrect (because string theory is partially based on something that is not there).

Possibly a discussion about words is the actual feat here, since in the pentaist theory the word dimension is used differently than in 3D (or in string). From your words, I read you are using it differently also.

[Fredrick]

Where is the center on the surface of this sphere. Remember there is no inside or outside of our universe, just void.

Best,

Pat

P.S Maybe the big bang produced a big bubble that is still expanding.

Pat, not to be faceatious, but to make my point come across about our discussion: you are showing us a picture. Therefore, all you need to do is take two diagonal lines starting in the corners and where the lines cross each other that is the middle of the picture.

But to answer your question as you intended. There is no center. We need spin to give the sphere more precise coordinates. In our universe, your question is a non-question, because the situation shown does not exist. It is a conceptual delivery in 2D (or in pentaist words: a single Field dimension, 1D) and despite the fantastic visual effects, it misses the depth of reality.

[Profpat]

But to answer your question as you intended. There is no center. We need spin to give the sphere more precise coordinates. In our universe, your question is a non-question, because the situation shown does not exist. It is a conceptual delivery in 2D (or in pentaist words: a single Field dimension, 1D) and despite the fantastic visual effects, it misses the depth of reality.

Hi Frederick;

I agree a 2D picture does miss the depth of reality, but I think our imagination can handle the transition between a 2D picture and 4D reality.

Perhaps blowing up a soap bubble would help.

I don't envision our universe having a spin in it's own right. Rather as you and Felix point out, that each galaxy has it's own angular momentum or spin; and therefore it's own personal unique center.

As with the soap bubble I imagine the univese to be balanced between the inner and outer pressure of the void.

Needless to say this image of a universe is conjecture, as who really knows?

Best to you,

Pat