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05-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Hi Frederick; Here are some thoughts regarding universal spin from another site; Does the Universe Spin?
Everything in the Universe spins, from atoms to galaxies. Planets, stars, black holes, etc. It would explain why everything spins, if it were an inate quality of the Universe as a whole. It might explain the acceleration of the expansion of the Universe too.
Any thoughts? Re: Does the Universe Spin?
As I understand it, most of the spinning structures you mentioned do so because the momentum is consered and concetrated as things contract.
The "ice skater" effect.
For the Universe, you would expect the opposite effect, as any rotational momentum would be dissapated by expansin, to the point where local gravitational (and other stochastic) effects would overwhelm it. Re: Does the Universe Spin?
Spinning in relation to what? A spinning universe also implies that there is a center to the rotation and unless our observations of redshift are completely wrong and the universe is, in fact, rotating, the Earth would, actually, be the center of the universe. Highly unlikely. Re: Does the Universe Spin? Spinning in relation to what?
Yes, good point that even a layman like me can understand.
For the Universe to "spin," there would have to be something outside whatever boundaries it may have, as a point of reference wouldn't there? Ie, not just a load of complete "nothingness." | |
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05-08-2008, 03:26 PM
Hi Melanie;
I agree I think every person is the center of their universe. As far as dreams and the like, while I have nothing against the concept of ULTIMATE REALITY, in fact I believe it myself,
I would like to keep this thread addressed to the relative reality that you and I occupy at present.
Michael has some wonderful threads dedicated throughout the forum dealing with the topic of ULTIMATE REALITY OF ONE.
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HI PAT,
I am sorry i posted here , it was unfounded and thoughtless of me.
Apologies.
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05-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Frederick; Here are some thoughts regarding universal spin from another site; Does the Universe Spin?
Everything in the Universe spins, from atoms to galaxies. Planets, stars, black holes, etc. It would explain why everything spins, if it were an inate quality of the Universe as a whole. It might explain the acceleration of the expansion of the Universe too.
Any thoughts? Re: Does the Universe Spin?
As I understand it, most of the spinning structures you mentioned do so because the momentum is consered and concentrated as things contract.
The "ice skater" effect.
For the Universe, you would expect the opposite effect, as any rotational momentum would be dissapated by expansin, to the point where local gravitational (and other stochastic) effects would overwhelm it. Re: Does the Universe Spin?
Spinning in relation to what? A spinning universe also implies that there is a center to the rotation and unless our observations of redshift are completely wrong and the universe is, in fact, rotating, the Earth would, actually, be the center of the universe. Highly unlikely. Re: Does the Universe Spin? Spinning in relation to what?
Yes, good point that even a layman like me can understand.
For the Universe to "spin," there would have to be something outside whatever boundaries it may have, as a point of reference wouldn't there? Ie, not just a load of complete "nothingness." | Thank you for these further insights, Pat. I do not know if I should agree or not with all conclusions (for instance, concluding that earth must then be the center because the spin does not show up in that what we can register, does not make sense when it is not measurable as specific information).
As far as the imbalance of matter and anti-matter is concerned, I would say that this imbalance points to a spinning universe. And if not a spinning, then at least a moving universe. However, since our universe' boundaries are all not that clear, it is difficult to capture this concept well in a direct way, only indirectly. We know for certain it is expanding yet it may also be moving one-directionally and/or spinning.
However, this is a limb I am not deeply interested in, just mentioned it in light of your initial set up. The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not. | |
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05-08-2008, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by melanie Hi Melanie;
I agree I think every person is the center of their universe. As far as dreams and the like, while I have nothing against the concept of ULTIMATE REALITY, in fact I believe it myself,
I would like to keep this thread addressed to the relative reality that you and I occupy at present.
Michael has some wonderful threads dedicated throughout the forum dealing with the topic of ULTIMATE REALITY OF ONE.
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HI PAT,
I am sorry i posted here , it was unfounded and thoughtless of me.
Apologies.
melanie. | Hi Melanie; You are a very sweet and sensitive lady. You of course can post here any time you wish. I just didn't want to get to transcendental on this topic. It's more nuclear and astro physics here. ( quantum mechanics and relativity, special and general ) Very best to you, Pat | |
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05-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Hi Frederick; Actually RP and myself, proposed an anti matter parallel universe spinning around our universe in Tao fashion. This would solve the CPT asymmetrical problem. The two universes would complement each other, as Yin/Yang does. Who knows, but speculation is fun. Best to you, Pat  | |
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05-09-2008, 12:37 AM
Prof, would your anti matter Universe interact with our Universe in any way? Quote:
Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Frederick; Actually RP and myself, proposed an anti matter parallel universe spinning around our universe in Tao fashion. This would solve the CPT asymmetrical problem. The two universes would complement each other, as Yin/Yang does. Who knows, but speculation is fun. Best to you, Pat  | | |
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05-09-2008, 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Profpat Actually RP and myself, proposed an anti matter parallel universe spinning around our universe in Tao fashion. This would solve the CPT asymmetrical problem. The two universes would complement each other, as Yin/Yang does. Who knows, but speculation is fun. | Hi Pat
Here's my version:
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Felix And woe to us if, blinded by illusions,
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05-09-2008, 04:34 PM
Does the red part mean antimatter? If yes, how is it converted to matter through the singularity? Quote:
Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Hi Pat
Here's my version:
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05-09-2008, 04:59 PM
Particle and anti/particle are always crearted together in the lab. They make the distiction between particle and anti/particle by spin and opposite/spin. WHEN A VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD IS APPLIED, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY CHARGED PARTICLES WILL CURVE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. The Above was from a post on our parallel universe theory. Yes Dipankar, RP and my anti matter universe theory had the positive and negative universes operating together, as the symbol TAO has the interactions of YIN/YANG working together. Felix I like your diagram and is why I have the posting above. It seems like your theory has matter going in one direction and anti matter going in the opposite direction. This is exactly what happens in the lab, with a magnetic field. I imagine space would have a similar magnetic field seperating matter from anti-matter. Best, Pat P.S. Felix I believe there is a white cat that put a certain Dr. Schrodinger in a box in that anti-universe. | |
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05-09-2008, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Profpat Actually RP and myself, proposed an anti matter parallel universe spinning around our universe in Tao fashion. This would solve the CPT asymmetrical problem. The two universes would complement each other, as Yin/Yang does. Who knows, but speculation is fun. Best to you, Pat  | Thank you, Pat,
Yes, speculation is fun, and I enjoy it from time to time as well. In my universe, however, there is only one unvierse, ours. I believe that it only takes one universe to explain its existence.
In my Yin and Yang there is also Li and Ki (neoconfusianism) with Ki being Yin and Yang and Li the all-embracing spirit. The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not. | |
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