[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Fredrick Thank you, Pat, Yes, speculation is fun, and I enjoy it from time to time as well. In my universe, however, there is only one unvierse, ours. I believe that it only takes one universe to explain its existence. In my Yin and Yang there is also Li and Ki (neoconfusianism) with Ki being Yin and Yang and Li the all-embracing spirit.

Hi Frederick;

The matter, anti/matter universe that Rp and I were proposing is really only one. Like the Tao is One Tao.
In fact I thought our 1/2 of the universe would be the dark one with the little white circle, since we only have 4% luminious matter the rest 96% being made up of dark matter and dark energy.

Pure speculation, but it doesn't cost anything to speculate, and without it you have problem with CPT symmetry.

Best,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Does the red part mean antimatter? If yes, how is it converted to matter through the singularity?

Hi Dippy

Yes, red is AM but the movement is not going from left to right but from the centre outwards in both directions. This is the reverse of a singularity sucking in material (as in a BH). Both jets expand outwards and the matter/antimatter are in complete balance hence something from nothing. This is a version of the single parallel world concept whereby our world is balanced by an exact copy but made from antimatter. It's only an idea but has more to commend it than most of the other parallel world theories.

regards
Felix

[Profpat]

Compliments to Austin

[dipayankar]

I get it Felix, what I do not get however is why antimatter and matter go to different directions, why do they not inter mingles amongst themselves?

Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Hi Dippy Yes, red is AM but the movement is not going from left to right but from the centre outwards in both directions. This is the reverse of a singularity sucking in material (as in a BH). Both jets expand outwards and the matter/antimatter are in complete balance hence something from nothing. This is a version of the single parallel world concept whereby our world is balanced by an exact copy but made from antimatter. It's only an idea but has more to commend it than most of the other parallel world theories. regards Felix

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Profpat Particle and anti/particle are always crearted together in the lab. They make the distiction between particle and anti/particle by spin and opposite/spin. WHEN A VERTICAL MAGNETIC FIELD IS APPLIED, POSITIVELY AND NEGATIVELY CHARGED PARTICLES WILL CURVE IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. ... Felix I like your diagram and is why I have the posting above. It seems like your theory has matter going in one direction and anti matter going in the opposite direction. This is exactly what happens in the lab, with a magnetic field. I imagine space would have a similar magnetic field seperating matter from anti-matter.

Originally Posted by dipayankar I get it Felix, what I do not get however is why antimatter and matter go to different directions, why do they not inter mingles amongst themselves?

I agree with Dipayankar.

Is this movement away from each other due to the curving in opposite directions in a magnetic field, as ProfPat noted? So, if no magnetic field were present, would they intermingle and annihilate each other?

[Profpat]

Hi JAK;

There is a lot of evidence that a there was annihilation at the beginning but was all anti-matter annihilated. Did an equal amount of anti-matter escape to a parallel universe?

As far as magnetic fields at the beginning, no one knows for sure. Here is an excerpt from an article in New Science Magazine ( January 2008 )

"One needs some initial, small magnetic field."
Some researchers have tried to explain the origin of this so-called "seed" field by invoking new physical mechanisms – such as the coupling of electromagnetic fields with exotic particles or gravity in the first instants after the big bang.
"There have been many models in this direction, most of which rely on new physics, and are therefore not convincing," comments George Field of the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, US.
Hot soup

Now, researchers led by Kiyotomo Ichiki of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan in Tokyo have used standard physics to explain the seed field. They say the field began before the first atoms formed, when the universe was a hot soup of protons, electrons and photons – a state that lasted for the first 370,000 years after the big bang.
Photons exert a different pressure on electrons than protons and also scatter off electrons more often. The researchers found that the differences in the movements of electrons and protons generated a rotating electric current, which produced magnetic fields.

Best to all,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Why antimatter and matter go to different directions, why do they not inter mingles amongst themselves?

Hi Dippy

They are not 'directions' as the diagram is not representative of our three dimensional universe. It maybe that the 'direction' illustrated is a fourth spatial dimension? The drawing appart is separated by the singularity in which no matter exists so there is no intermingling.

The anthropomorphic principle (or whatever it is) postulates that, since we exist, something must have happened to allow real matter to form. Current thinking supposes that matter and antimatter were created in our universe in equal quantities but the antimatter has been destroyed leaving a (small) residue of matter for us to exist in and observe. My alternative postulates that matter and antimatter draw appart across a boundary (no I can't define it) which results in two parallel worlds. Any small residues of the wrong stuff will be anihilated immediately in contact with the right stuff.

I think that this is a likely scenario for the creation of each galaxy and the principle is similar to Lee Smolin's fish egg theory which has many such events taking place for us to experience a viable universe - but that's another story.

regards
Felix

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Hi Dippy They are not 'directions' as the diagram is not representative of our three dimensional universe. It maybe that the 'direction' illustrated is a fourth spatial dimension? The drawing appart is separated by the singularity in which no matter exists so there is no intermingling. The anthropomorphic principle (or whatever it is) postulates that, since we exist, something must have happened to allow real matter to form. Current thinking supposes that matter and antimatter were created in our universe in equal quantities but the antimatter has been destroyed leaving a (small) residue of matter for us to exist in and observe. My alternative postulates that matter and antimatter draw appart across a boundary (no I can't define it) which results in two parallel worlds. Any small residues of the wrong stuff will be anihilated immediately in contact with the right stuff. I think that this is a likely scenario for the creation of each galaxy and the principle is similar to Lee Smolin's fish egg theory which has many such events taking place for us to experience a viable universe - but that's another story.

As I recall, when a positron collides with an electron, their energy must be conserved. As a result, they create two photons in the collision. Thus, it would seem that photons would be present in both our world as well as one composed of antimatter.

Felix, though you indicated that you are not able to define a boundary between these worlds, it would seem that the boundary would allow photons to pass freely. If this is true, could some of the galaxies we observe in the heavens be "anti-galaxies"? Or does your boundary prevent our seeing them?

[Profpat]

Hi JAK;

I hope you don't mind me butting in here, but Dirac tried unsuccessfully to discover anti-matter in our universe. He gave up on his theory lacking any evidence. He never considered an anti-parallel universe, that I'm aware of however.

You are correct that two photons are created when a particle annihilates with an anti-particle. Since the photon has no charge it is it's own anti-particle. If the photons have enough energy they will create a particle and anti-particle.

Best to all,

Pat

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by JAK As I recall, when a positron collides with an electron, their energy must be conserved. As a result, they create two photons in the collision. Thus, it would seem that photons would be present in both our world as well as one composed of antimatter. Felix, though you indicated that you are not able to define a boundary between these worlds, it would seem that the boundary would allow photons to pass freely. If this is true, could some of the galaxies we observe in the heavens be "anti-galaxies"? Or does your boundary prevent our seeing them?

Hi Jak

Brilliant - possibly the missing link! I didn't think of that but it could make sense!

Felix