[Fredrick]

Originally Posted by Profpat How does your model solve T symmetry. RP and my model of an anti-universe which is really part of ours suggest that in the anti-universe half you may have time reversal( time going backwards ), thus not only giving Charge and Parity symmetry but also Time.

Time is possibly the most fascinating aspect in our universe, Pat.

In some ways, I follow the ancient Greek delivery (partially because it is written in a way I can easily understand): Chronos existed before Zeus, being his father. When grown, Zeus challenged his father and came out victorious. Chronological order is still the order, but takes in a subdued position to that of space. In the pentaist Big Bang, time arrived before space arrived, but space is the more dominant feature of our universe, not allowing time to reverse itself (though it does seep backwards, too. See later below).

In time, there are also two dimensions, and just like the spatial dimensions they are the context in which reality takes place. The field dimensions of time, and I hope you forgive me for the rather ordinary words, are 'past' and 'future.' They are the context in which the contents of 'the present' takes place. Past and future do not exist, they are only contexts for the only time feature that does exist.

Past and future are connected like the two spatial dimensions are connected; there exists a forced element that creates the spatial left and right sides, and a forced element that creates the time features of past and future. Please understand that a single dimensional field is a fake/art dimension, reality is always 2D+ in which a 1D field of picture or movie can exist. Same with time, reality is always 2D+, in which a memory or an envisioned future can exist.

When seen separately, past and future are similar dimensions, just like the two spatial field dimensions are similar. Though, when viewed as such, depth is absent in both. Together both dimensions are not connected everywhere. As mentioned for space, in some respect separation 'trumps' the dual setting of the two time features, as well.

Relativity prevents me from allowing to envision a universe in which time flows backwards, for I believe relativity is itself a relative commodity unable to fully reverse an action. However, I have experienced first hand time jumps in which I saw glimpses of actual future events (mondane as they may be to other people, I found them quite shocking myself, not for the contents, but for the realization I had received an imprint from my own future, though of course I had to realize that what I saw was happening in my present and that I had seen my future in my past). My explanation is that of 'eddy-formation.' While the river of time is one-directional, eddies along the banks can flow backwards, creating little circles, but they do not influence the direction of the entire river as such. Naturally, entire rivers can meander in all kinds of directions, sometimes touching itself (creating the short cuts we call oxbows). I don't think I am standing on such a connection of one and the same river with itself, but possibly Nostrodamus was standing at such a confluxaposition.

[JAK]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Great JAK, what would the energy berrier be made of?

Hi Dipayanker,

The parade is passing us by, but I would envision magnetism as the main ingredient of the barrier. Magnetism already seems to separate and "sort" particles from anti-particles. The other factor to be considered is dleviwing's aether which I am slowly beginning to understand. It may be that particles and anti-particles tend to "pool" together. If photons are oblivious to matter versus anti-matter, then it might be possible that some visible galaxies are anti-matter with any alien matter being annihilated long ago in random collisions which purified the galaxies. The same would be true for the Milky Way.

But this, of course, is only speculation and needs the evaluation/input of others. But if it were true, I would expect some cataclysmic galactic collisions somewhere in the universe where a "matter" galaxy and an "anit-matter" galaxy annihilate each other. At the moment, I am not aware of any such spectacular collision, so that tends to temper my beliefs. But then again, it took a while for black holes to be recognized.

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Profpat ... When I described each particle having the potential to be it's own anti-particle by flipping it inside out, the thought of convex/concave came to mind. This also would be a very easy step.( positive/negative curvature ) ...

The concave/convex idea is appealing - especially with dleviwing noting density differences with subatomic particles. Yet, I am still enamored with a solution that stresses angular momentum. It seems to be the most reductionistic. Can you elaborate some more on your idea with a specific particle and spin?

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Fredrick ... However, I have experienced first hand time jumps in which I saw glimpses of actual future events (mondane as they may be to other people, I found them quite shocking myself, not for the contents, but for the realization I had received an imprint from my own future, though of course I had to realize that what I saw was happening in my present and that I had seen my future in my past). ...

Fredrick, this is fascinating. (And we may be getting too far off topic.)

Were you deliberately trying to have a premonition, or was it accidental? If deliberate, what were you doing to instigate the phenomena?

(Perhaps a new thread would be appropriate!)

[Profpat]

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by JAK The concave/convex idea is appealing - especially with dleviwing noting density differences with subatomic particles. Yet, I am still enamored with a solution that stresses angular momentum. It seems to be the most reductionistic. Can you elaborate some more on your idea with a specific particle and spin?

Hi JAK:

In my proton model above I vision the complementary opposites being attracted to one another and therefore would create angular momentum in an attempt to reach it's complement.

The AM(angular momentum) for a proton is .999999 the speed of light. It is through the EM or magnetic field ( the agent ) that the AM energy can be transferred beyond the proton layer.

All fermions ( protons etc ) have a 1/2 spin, which basically means to return the particle to it's exact original quantum state requires a 720 degree rotation. A 360 degree rotation gives it a state with the opposite quantum phase.

[Fredrick]

Originally Posted by JAK Fredrick, this is fascinating. (And we may be getting too far off topic.) Were you deliberately trying to have a premonition, or was it accidental? If deliberate, what were you doing to instigate the phenomena? (Perhaps a new thread would be appropriate!)

Yes, we are getting a bit too far off the topic, especially since no one else can verify my experience (though others may have had similar experiences themselves). I will therefore not go into any other details than that I dreamt being in a situation in which some actions took place, and I woke up out of it due to an enormous shock (not explained in the dream, and I couldn't really find a link within the actions of the dream that would explain the shock either). Two months later, I found myself in that situation, and I had a tremendous shock. Nothing shocking happened in my surrounding, but I was shocked deeply because my surrounding and its actions in the surrounding was exactly as I had dreamt it, including the shock of the realization that I had dreamt this reality already.

Though I see science as a limited tool to understand the theory of everything, I find it nevertheless the most reliable tool to communicate with others about everything, so let's make this time experience the possibility that it is, but scientifically deja vu's are not most interesting. About the posts in this excellent Pat thread: I would go for the angular explanation, in which time, too, is an angular phenomenon. When mentioning time, it is good to know that there is only one kind of time: the present. No other time exists, but the relativity of everything does create individual experiences of that present. While I see time as one-directional, I do not see time as linear, and therefore I used the metaphore of a river to capture its character. The angular moment of the present exists within the context of the two fields of past and future (that are just contexts, they are not here). Angular can get translated into 'specifically expressed,' while both past and future cannot be considered specifically expressed to the same extent. However, as we all know, past and future are definitively linked to the present; they exist within the same overall picture.

With time being relegated to a less important aspect in light of space's prominence, I have no problem seeing time experiences as separated, individualized packages. And these packages are not linear, though they are one-directional.

Just like this picture by Pat:





Figure 22. Oranges or atoms in three dimensions
will stack in these three arrangements.

But then looking at just the first image of the cube, each package of time (which are not beautifully round like these balls) together form the cube. So the personal time experience sits within the collective time experience and influences it and is influenced by it. Obviously, it is easier as an individual to be influenced by the collective than that the individual influences the collective, but it is a two-way street (though a weird two-way street).

Finally, I will use this picture to explain how I could see something in a dream before I would actually see it in reality: charges can jump from package to package, and all I need is to have an other package in my future receiving a charge from me, while that package is moving one-directional (but in an absolute sense curved, at least for me as the other package) through time, delivering the charge back to me in what is my past. I accepted that charge (because it was somehow mine to begin with). My past did not change, and that's why I was only able to dream it, but not actually live it in that past.

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Fredrick Yes, we are getting a bit too far off the topic, especially since no one else can verify my experience ...

Fredrick, please start a thread in the paranormal area. Thx.

Originally Posted by Profpat ... In my proton model above I vision the complementary opposites being attracted to one another and therefore would create angular momentum in an attempt to reach it's complement. The AM(angular momentum) for a proton is .999999 the speed of light. It is through the EM or magnetic field ( the agent ) that the AM energy can be transferred beyond the proton layer. All fermions ( protons etc ) have a 1/2 spin, which basically means to return the particle to it's exact original quantum state requires a 720 degree rotation. A 360 degree rotation gives it a state with the opposite quantum phase.

Please explain the concave/convex structure for your proton example. (If KiGs could modify her gorgeous graphics in support, that would be ideal.)

[Fredrick]

Originally Posted by JAK Fredrick, please start a thread in the paranormal area. Thx.

JAK, I hope it was clear that I placed my personal experience between scientific quotes; I do not want to dwell on it either. I must say that you were the one asking me to provide more info. I am left with feeling a little bit that you egged me on (don't worry, I will live). If, however, your question is also truly a sincere question, I need to reply that I don't want to write in a paranormal thread. I used the experience, because experiences can be seen as helping color the overall picture. Nevertheless, the overall picture can be drawn in science alone, and personal experiences can easily be left out.

I also described within that post a clear scientific model, expressing a similar angular delivery to the phenomenon of time. If you want, you can response to the angularity of time I describe, a subject that fits this thread quite well. Of course, you don't have to.

[Profpat]

Please explain the concave/convex structure for your proton example. (If KiGs could modify her gorgeous graphics in support, that would be ideal.)[/quote]




Hello JAK:

I don’t know if KiGs is able to create a dome, in that she doesn’t have the necessary 3D software.
This means you’ll have to go out and buy some colored pipe cleaners to create your own 3D model. You can follow my diagram in my An Idea to do this, or look at my avatar.

Once you have created the model, ( domed shape proton model ) you can then spin it, clockwise or counter-clockwise, for your own demonstration of angular momentum. My guess is that spinning will go forever since it can never reach it’s complementary opposite. Remember the proton is a stable particle with no observed half life. It has been speculated that if it does have a half life it would be greater than 10 to the 35 power years. Truly perpetual motion.

The neutron does have a half life of ~10 minutes, a near eternity on the subatomic level.
The neutron is the spherical shape of the pipe cleaners. It would have a net 0 charge in that the octant inside would have 4 positive areas and 4 negative areas.

The proton configuration, however would have 4 positive areas and 3 negative areas leaving a positive +1. The electron, which I believe is a projection, ( a ripple or field in space ), from the proton would have a negative -1. This would make our basic building the hydrogen atom to be in balance, with a +1 and a -1.

As I mentioned before all fermions have a ½ spin. Electrons, quarks, and protons/neutrons, since they are composed of an odd number of fermions, ( 3 quarks )

Happy model making,


Pat

P.S. The concave would be the inside of the proton and the convex would be the outside. Also once you have constucted the model notice how you are able to flip it inside out.