[Profpat]

An addendum to the above post;

Remember the CBR wasn't discovered, until AFTER the ether was prematurely eliminated, by the scientific community. And so whether Einstein needed it or not, it is there.

Best to all,

Pat

[Mikal]

Profpat...the ancient Qabalah claims and I transcribe here...emotion is matter, the magnetic field of the heart and thought is the space which allows the two to interact, the field of the heart holds the electromagnetic force through which all matter interacts. This is the strong nuclear force or pionic force which binds the nucleus together represented by emotion. Within each elementary particle there is a need for a cohesive force to counteract the electromagnetic force within the particle itself. This is thought which represents the weak nuclear force. The fourth force gravity corresponds to the phase state of thought which is a confluence of the other three forces. In the experiential the field of the heart represents the radiation of energy, while emotion represents the absorption of energy. Thought which represents the transmission of energy is then the synthesis linking the two.
I am no scientist but is ether the psyche/pure mind state???

[JamesANicholson]

Originally Posted by Profpat [font=Times New Roman][size=3]Hello Everyone; . . . In cosmology, the cosmic microwave background radiation (most often referred as acronyms as CMB but occasionally CMBR, CBR or MBR, also referred to as relic radiation) is a form of electromagnetic radiation discovered in 1965 that fills the entire universe.[1] It has a thermal black body spectrum at a temperature of 2.725 kelvin. Thus the spectrum peaks in the microwave range at a frequency of 160.2 GHz, corresponding to a wavelength of 1.9 mm. Most cosmologists consider this radiation to be the best evidence for the Big Bang model of the universe. It is real, present everywhere, has been there since the beginning, it’s energy, and is very colorful. So EMR or CBR has my vote for being named the ETHER. Pat

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Pat,

RE:
"Thus the spectrum peaks in the microwave range at a frequency of 160.2 GHz, corresponding to a wavelength of 1.9 mm. Most cosmologists consider this radiation to be the best evidence for the Big Bang model of the universe."

What if this is just the averaged wavelength of a much wider spectrum of radiation and cosmic particles as it works out from the Earths particular point of view? Or the 'mean' average?

And would it be unreasonable to say that the ether could/should/would vary in density in the same way that the atmosphere varies in density as one approaches a planet, with an atmosphere, from space, or, coming at it from the other direction, gets thinner as the climber ascends to the summit of a very tall mountain? This seems so much more logical than the idea of a homogeneously dense ether matrix as a uniform "background" across the entire expanse of space as established from one single event such as a "Big Bang." There is more evidence of variation in densities with the clumping and clustering of stars and galaxies and just the difference from deep space to planet and stars and even within planets and stars, than there is for a uniform gray-goo-same-everywhere sort of matrix or "background" for the ether.


Aaron

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by Profpat Remember the CBR wasn't discovered, until AFTER the ether was prematurely eliminated, by the scientific community. And so whether Einstein needed it or not, it is there.

Brilliant posts Pat!

I have a feeling that the CBR is the mechanism of time rather than the remnants of the BB. See my thoughts on chronons.

regards
Felix

[Felix Schrodinger]

Originally Posted by JamesANicholson And would it be unreasonable to say that the ether could/should/would vary in density in the same way that the atmosphere varies in density as one approaches a planet..........This seems so much more logical than the idea of a homogeneously dense ether matrix as a uniform "background" across the entire expanse of space as established from one single event such as a "Big Bang."

Hi Aaron

The variation in the density of the aether is what causes the effect we call gravity through the warping of space in proximity to mass. Thus, whilst the aether has a uniform structure it is not uniform in its consistency.

regards
Felix

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Hi Aaron The variation in the density of the aether is what causes the effect we call gravity through the warping of space in proximity to mass. Thus, whilst the aether has a uniform structure it is not uniform in its consistency. regards Felix

I agree with you Felix. I thnk the basis would be the EMR and that perhaps would be the uniform structure, but as Aaron pointed out, there could and probably is clumping, heavier around the stars, and other heavenly bodies. Even The atoms and molecules that Dipayankar mentioned. Also let us not forget Timothy Leary, and Arthur C Clarke, and Austin's 57' Chevy floating around out there.

You earned yourself some catnip tonight Felix.

Best,

Pat

[JamesANicholson]

Originally Posted by Felix Schrodinger Hi Aaron The variation in the density of the aether is what causes the effect we call gravity through the warping of space in proximity to mass. Thus, whilst the aether has a uniform structure it is not uniform in its consistency. regards Felix

Felix,

I am unsure of what you could mean by "uniform structure" but "not uniform in consistency." Do you also mean density? Or do you mean that the mix of elemental parts, bits and pieces, particles and frequencies is statistically different in ratios of representation, by "being different in consistency?"

And more importantly, if you believe that mass is the driving "force", rather than solar winds, for gravity, can you explain just how that works exactly? Or "WHY" does mass suck? And "HOW" does mass suck?

Best wishes,
Aaron

[Profpat]

Hi Mikal;

I didn't mean to ignore your post or question:

"I am no scientist but is ether the psyche/pure mind state???"

However it is to esoteric and ethereal for me to give you an answer. Michael is more involved than I am at this level of reality, and would probably better suited to respond to it.

As the referrence from Wikipedia, regarding the ancient thoughts of it, maybe they would agree with you. They thought it beyond the material world and as quintessence or an idea. perhaps an essential idea.

But myself I do not know if it is the pure mind state, or not. Again the ether that I'm referring to is, while not mass or matter, is more substantial than psyche, it is energy. or EMR.

Best to you,

Pat

[Mikal]

Profpat...thank you for always being gracious...smiles. Don't mind me watching your thread...I know we are in the Universe and that the Universe is within us so I discern many insights from all the intelligent thoughts which emerge from all your brilliant minds. Please do not always feel obligated to respond to my injections of information...I know you are busy and enthralled to experience all those ahaa moments which come from dawning insight....peace Mikal

[JAK]

Originally Posted by Profpat ... However it is to esoteric and ethereal for me to give you an answer. Michael is more involved than I am at this level of reality, and would probably better suited to respond to it. ... But myself I do not know if it is the pure mind state, or not. Again the ether that I'm referring to is, while not mass or matter, is more substantial than psyche, it is energy. or EMR. ...

The kicker is that all we sense, touch, and feel in the external world may be a mirage. The more we understand about the brain, mind, and emotion, the more we must face that it is a digital creation which we "assume" reflects a real universe.

Just as in a dream, we accept its reality, yet our existence may be a dream of our higher existence. In a nightly dream, we may forget what car we drive or our checking account balance only to have them reappear upon awakening. Yet, the dream seems real while we are in it, and we react to it as such.

If we all participate in a dream together, then it must have consistency for all who explore it. In a shared dream, each of us must find that our commonality is essentially the same. Hence, we find natural laws.

And though an aether may be the fabric of mind, we learn nothing by assigning it to the realm of magic. It is only by investigating the clues that emerge before us that we test ourselves and grow - that we learn patience and humility as we stand before the great complexity of the universe we assume is real.

Mikal, you may be right in your perspective. But Profpat is following the non-magical path which has rules and pleasures of its own. And your suggestions and questions are presently beyond the horizon of Profpat's methodical path. One day his progress may substantiate your views.

(Drifter, I think you've infected me. I'm beginning to wax poetically. Is there an antidote?)