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Re: An Idea - 07-09-2008, 07:12 AM

Thank you Felix for that link.

I'll be gone for a week. I'm going to San Diego to see my children and grandson. Feel free to continue your discussions here.

Best to all,

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Re: An Idea - 07-09-2008, 05:05 PM

Have a good time with your family, Pat.

Soon, I'll probably be posting less often, too.

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Re: An Idea - 07-21-2008, 10:59 AM

Hi everyone;

I'm back from San Diego, only to return there to get married in two weeks. ( 8/2/08 )

In the meantime I watched a program on the CERN, called THE BIG BANG MACHINE. In it they stated that the standard model had problems accounting for mass. Indeed the formulas came up with everythig being massless. Part of the reason for the theory of the Higgs Field and Higgs Boson.

However in my An Idea I proposed that the mass was created by the energy being bound in the the quarks. we all accept that energy = Mass C2.

Here is an excerpt of an article talking about how the much of the mass of a proton is created by just such interactions.

As always your comments will be most welcomed.

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2004


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Information for the Public

5 October 2004
The discovery which is awarded this year's Nobel Prize is of decisive importance for our understanding of how the theory of one of Nature's fundamental forces works, the force that ties together the smallest pieces of matter – the quarks. David Gross, David Politzer and Frank Wilczek have through their theoretical contributions made it possible to complete the Standard Model of Particle Physics, the model that describes the smallest objects in Nature and how they interact. At the same time it constitutes an important step in the endeavour to provide a unified description of all the forces of Nature, regardless of the spatial scale – from the tiniest distances within the atomic nucleus to the vast distances of the universe.
The strong force explained

The strong interaction – often called the colour interaction – is one of Nature’s four basic forces. It acts between the quarks, the constituents that build protons, neutrons and the nuclei. Progress in particle physics or its relevance for our daily life can sometimes appear hard to grasp for anyone without a knowledge of physics. However, when analysing an everyday phenomenon like a coin spinning on a table, its movements are in fact determined by the fundamental forces between the basic building blocks – protons, neutrons, electrons. In fact, about 80% of the coin’s weight is due to movements and processes in the interior of the protons and neutrons – the interaction between quarks. This year’s Nobel Prize is about this interaction, the strong or colour force.

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Re: An Idea - 07-21-2008, 11:09 AM

Prof...let me take this opportunity for congratulations and all best wishes in your upcoming marraige....


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Re: An Idea - 07-21-2008, 11:45 AM

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Thanks Mikal;

I appreciate that. Linda and I have known each other for 9 years now and lived together on again/off again over 5 of those years, and have discovered we are pretty compatible. So we figured why not. She is tired of running away from me, and I am tired of living alone. Truly a match made in Earth, a true Yin/Yang. The biggest problem is our age difference, she is 34 and I am 63. She is young and beautiful, and I am....we'll skip that.

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Re: An Idea - 07-21-2008, 12:33 PM

Prof....I don't think love has eyes to see age defining characteristics but more sees beauty and wisdom....I think its cool...good reasons to change your situations so again all the best in everything....


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Re: An Idea - 07-22-2008, 12:57 AM

Congrats on your marriage Prof. As regards your theory, How do you propose the energy was bound in the quarks?

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Hi everyone;

I'm back from San Diego, only to return there to get married in two weeks. ( 8/2/08 )

In the meantime I watched a program on the CERN, called THE BIG BANG MACHINE. In it they stated that the standard model had problems accounting for mass. Indeed the formulas came up with everythig being massless. Part of the reason for the theory of the Higgs Field and Higgs Boson.

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Here is an excerpt of an article talking about how the much of the mass of a proton is created by just such interactions.

As always your comments will be most welcomed.

The Nobel Prize in Physics 2004


EnglishSwedish


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5 October 2004
The discovery which is awarded this year's Nobel Prize is of decisive importance for our understanding of how the theory of one of Nature's fundamental forces works, the force that ties together the smallest pieces of matter – the quarks. David Gross, David Politzer and Frank Wilczek have through their theoretical contributions made it possible to complete the Standard Model of Particle Physics, the model that describes the smallest objects in Nature and how they interact. At the same time it constitutes an important step in the endeavour to provide a unified description of all the forces of Nature, regardless of the spatial scale – from the tiniest distances within the atomic nucleus to the vast distances of the universe.
The strong force explained

The strong interaction – often called the colour interaction – is one of Nature’s four basic forces. It acts between the quarks, the constituents that build protons, neutrons and the nuclei. Progress in particle physics or its relevance for our daily life can sometimes appear hard to grasp for anyone without a knowledge of physics. However, when analysing an everyday phenomenon like a coin spinning on a table, its movements are in fact determined by the fundamental forces between the basic building blocks – protons, neutrons, electrons. In fact, about 80% of the coin’s weight is due to movements and processes in the interior of the protons and neutrons – the interaction between quarks. This year’s Nobel Prize is about this interaction, the strong or colour force.

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Re: An Idea - 07-22-2008, 02:50 AM

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Re: An Idea - 07-22-2008, 09:40 AM

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Congrats on your marriage Prof. As regards your theory, How do you propose the energy was bound in the quarks?
Once again another good question Dipayankar;

My thought would be through the electro/magnetic force. The standard model has it through the QCD force, but I believe it is the same as the EM force.

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Re: An Idea - 07-23-2008, 06:44 AM

Prof do you believe (like Vincent) that Gravity could be a subset of EM forces?


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Once again another good question Dipayankar;

My thought would be through the electro/magnetic force. The standard model has it through the QCD force, but I believe it is the same as the EM force.

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