An Idea

[Profpat]

I think I pretty much agree with what you saying here Fredrick.

Is " selfish " spheres = to some intelligent life form?

Best,

Pat

I should point out that I still have problems with your cylinders and spheres. I still favor my structures.

[Max™]

Gravity is a displacement due to the amount of folded "distance" or spacetime within the object.

EM is a directional influence on spacetime due to the directional twisting and folding required to tie a knot in spacetime.

Strong is the resistance of the knot to being pulled apart, and I suspect represents directly the tensile strength of spacetime.

Weak is the resistance of the knot to remaining tied up, and the "brushing" and "unraveling" effect knots have on each other.

It's all topological interactions of spacetime with itself, I think.

[Profpat]

Gravity is a displacement due to the amount of folded "distance" or spacetime within the object.Interesting. Does that spacetime distance have weight? And if so does spacetime distance have a veriable or a stable weight through out the universe.

EM is a directional influence on spacetime due to the directional twisting and folding required to tie a knot in spacetime.I agree EM is a directional influence.

Strong is the resistance of the knot to being pulled apart, and I suspect represents directly the tensile strength of spacetime.How pulled apart? When I pull on my necktie the knot becomes smaller and tighter, Not pulled apart, more like pulled together. Who or what is doing the pulling?

Weak is the resistance of the knot to remaining tied up, and the "brushing" and "unraveling" effect knots have on each other.Again interesting. I view the weak force as a limitation on the number of protons/neutrons which can be bound together in a nucleus.

It's all topological interactions of spacetime with itself, I think.

Very best,

Pat

[Profpat]

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[Fredrick]

I should point out that I still have problems with your cylinders and spheres. I still favor my structures.

I like your structures, too, Pat. I see many similarities in what you are saying and what I am saying. Yet I feel you are presenting the aspects too much in a separate manner, whereas the sphere and remainder-parts (RPs) have a singular background in what is still a potential cylinder; they show a connection even when the full-connection is broken (by the sphere).

My delivery does not require a belief, but it does require a suspension of wanting immediate evidence within matter; the cylinder belongs to the potential (or theoretical) universe, while the sphere and RPs belong to our side of the universe, but from a standpoint of separation.

The overall delivery of each 'package' is therefore not based on a singular background, but on the establishment of the best new balance possible from various cylinders: one sphere (or up-quark) is +2/3 charge, and a set of RPs with a total of -1/3 charge (a single down-quark) is enough to bring the old cylinder in balance, yet the charge is then not in sync.

Two sets of RPs have a total charge of -2/3, and that fits the overall outcome for charge nicely, delivering the all-familiar neutron. Still, that leaves us with the two sets of RPs, while a single set is just created from one cylinder of potential energy. Therefore, two up-quarks are each vying for the extra RP-set. Most likely, a combination of an up-quark and a single RP-set desired a 2nd RP-set, to neutralize the charge difference this combination experienced. Another up-quark with no RP-set at all (the third up-quark in the picture) was drawn in the vicinity of the two up-quarks fighting over the extra RP-set (of three RP-sets in total).

The RP-set between the two up-quarks comes out victorious (though the perspective that the two up-quarks have conrenred the neutron up-quark may place them in the victorious place), and they are in control of the whole situation. The whole situation that is still not in balance, because the whole contains a +1 charge, which needs an electron of -1 charge to balance. Even the finished picture is not one that cannot be changed or challenged.

This complex image is therefore based on various forms of separation: separation between spheres and RPs, and separation between the neutron and proton. Yet at the same time, the complex image is based on cooperation and connection: connection within the neutron, connection between the RPs, connection within the proton.

Can you tell me where you have problems with the cylinders, the spheres and RPs, Pat?

[Fredrick]

...the only thing I know about quarks is that unlike a MF decrease as the charged substance gets further away quark forces of attraction just thin out to a narrower line. .. this would tend to give the impression that the quarks never lose there original place in the universe ... as quarks that is. ... ? hmmm ...

....this could be the connection to Mr Einstein's spookiness effect come to think of it ... just a ponder IMHO g.

I have a different explanation for this phenomenon, Graham. No part in our universe is just in balance with their immediate surrounding, each part is also collectively moving outwardly away from Point X. The outward movement of all matter moving in the same/similar direction experiences changes within the collective field of that direction.

It is like all being on a train going through space, a train without any rail nor earth underneath the train. One person deciding to go hang out of a window of the train will change the feel of the entire train, because the action changes the point of balance within the train. It is like tipping a scale with just one ounce moving outwardly, and thus changing the scale. Yet in this spatial balance, the scale is always in balance, relatively moving away from one balance into what is then becoming the new balance; all on board of the train will automatically experience the new balance.

[Fredrick]

Gravity is a displacement due to the amount of folded "distance" or spacetime within the object.

EM is a directional influence on spacetime due to the directional twisting and folding required to tie a knot in spacetime.

Strong is the resistance of the knot to being pulled apart, and I suspect represents directly the tensile strength of spacetime.

Weak is the resistance of the knot to remaining tied up, and the "brushing" and "unraveling" effect knots have on each other.

It's all topological interactions of spacetime with itself.

Hi Max, nice delivery; I see some similarities with my delivery, though I cannot see them as identical. How do you view the sphere + remainder-parts coming from the potential cylinder? Do you see it as fitting within your model (in parts or not at all, and if not, why not)?

[Fredrick]

Yes, we can!

Now wanting to be obnoxious, but QM is just one way to see/experience our reality. GR is another way.
(P.S. very pretty delivery)