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    Re: An Idea

    What do you mean by this kind of intelligence so fast D?
    Many in the west have learned to connect to the fount or the current of ambrosia as it is known.
    There is a unity which encompasses diversity.
    "It is the 'golden bowl' in the Bible.
    It is the microcosmic 'web of life' for it underlies every part of the physical structure.
    It has three purposes:
    To carry throughout the body the life principle, the energy which produces activity.

    To enable the soul, or human yet spiritual man to be en rapport weth his environment, this is the seat of conscious receptivity.

    To produce eventually, through life ans consciousness, a radiant activity, or manifestation of glory which wil make each human being a centre of activityfor the distribution of light and attractive energy to others in the human kingdom.

    This microcosmic symbol of the soul not only underlies the entire physical structure and thus is a symbol of the anima mundi, or the world soul, but is indivisable, coherent and a unified entity, thereby symbolising the unity and homogeneity of God(aka the Absolute).
    There are no seperate organisms in it, bu it is simply a body of freely flowing force, that force being a blend or unification of two types of energy in varying quantities, dynamic energy, and attractive or magnetic energy. These two types characterise the universal soul likewise---the force of will and of love, or of atma and buddhi, and it is the play of these two forces on matter that attracts to the etheric body of all forms the needed physical atoms and that--having so attracted them---by the will force drives them into certain activities.

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    Are we a part of a much larger civilisation? Else how come we evolved into this kind of intelligence so fast??

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    Are we a part of a much larger civilisation? Else how come we evolved into this kind of intelligence so fast??
    Blaise Pascal’s Pensee's 1660

    Man's disproportion.--This is where our innate knowledge leads us. If it be not true, there is no truth in man; and if it be true, he finds therein great cause for humiliation, being compelled to abase himself in one way or another. And since he cannot exist without this knowledge, I wish that, before entering on deeper researches into nature, he would consider her both seriously and at leisure, that he would reflect upon himself also, and knowing what proportion there is... Let man then contemplate the whole of nature in her full and grand majesty, and turn his vision from the low objects which surround him. Let him gaze on that brilliant light, set like an eternal lamp to illumine the universe; let the earth appear to him a point in comparison with the vast circle described by the sun; and let him wonder at the fact that this vast circle is itself but a very fine point in comparison with that described by the stars in their revolution round the firmament. But if our view be arrested there, let our imagination pass beyond; it will sooner exhaust the power of conception than nature that of supplying material for conception. The whole visible world is only an imperceptible atom in the ample bosom of nature. No idea approaches it. We may enlarge our conceptions beyond an imaginable space; we only produce atoms in comparison with the reality of things. It is an infinite sphere, the centre of which is everywhere, the circumference nowhere. In short, it is the greatest sensible mark of the almighty power of God that imagination loses itself in that thought.
    Returning to himself, let man consider what he is in comparison with all existence; let him regard himself as lost in this remote corner of nature; and from the little cell in which he finds himself lodged, I mean the universe, let him estimate at their true value the earth, kingdoms, cities, and himself. What is a man in the Infinite?
    But to show him another prodigy equally astonishing, let him examine the most delicate things he knows. Let a mite be given him, with its minute body and parts incomparably more minute, limbs with their joints, veins in the limbs, blood in the veins, humours in the blood, drops in the humours, vapours in the drops. Dividing these last things again, let him exhaust his powers of conception, and let the last object at which he can arrive be now that of our discourse. Perhaps he will think that here is the smallest point in nature. I will let him see therein a new abyss. I will paint for him not only the visible universe, but all that he can conceive of nature's immensity in the womb of this abridged atom. Let him see therein an infinity of universes, each of which has its firmament, its planets, its earth, in the same proportion as in the visible world; in each earth animals, and in the last mites, in which he will find again all that the first had, finding still in these others the same thing without end and without cessation. Let him lose himself in wonders as amazing in their littleness as the others in their vastness. For who will not be astounded at the fact that our body, which a little while ago was imperceptible in the universe, itself imperceptible in the bosom of the whole, is now a colossus, a world, or rather a whole, in respect of the nothingness which we cannot reach? He who regards himself in this light will be afraid of himself, and observing himself sustained in the body given him by nature between those two abysses of the Infinite and Nothing, will tremble at the sight of these marvels; and I think that, as his curiosity changes into admiration, he will be more disposed to contemplate them in silence than to examine them with presumption.
    For, in fact, what is man in nature? A Nothing in comparison with the Infinite, an All in comparison with the Nothing, a mean between nothing and everything. Since he is infinitely removed from comprehending the extremes, the end of things and their beginning are hopelessly hidden from him in an impenetrable secret; he is equally incapable of seeing the Nothing from which he was made, and the Infinite in which he is swallowed up.
    What will he do then, but perceive the appearance of the middle of things, in an eternal despair of knowing either their beginning or their end. All things proceed from the Nothing, and are borne towards the Infinite. Who will follow these marvellous processes? The Author of these wonders understands them. None other can do so.

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    Are we a part of a much larger civilisation? Else how come we evolved into this kind of intelligence so fast??
    Hi Dipayankar;

    What I find amazing is what we accomplished on a physical level during the 1900's.

    Lets see there was air travel, electric lights, radio. television, computers, laser beams, genetic engineering, space travel ( including walking on the moon), satelites, atomic energy ( including the atomic bomb ), air conditioning, gas and electric heating, Mr. coffee, coffee pot, stereo, holograms....

    All within 100 years. from 4000BC to 1900AD not much difference and then BANG.

    Maybe we were visited by aliens.

    I think now maybe it's time to turn to spiritual and mental things.

    Best to you,

    Pat
    Last edited by Profpat; 12-01-2007 at 09:26 PM. Reason: added AD

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    Re: An Idea

    Brilliant Minds
    http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/michael/blog/?p=252

    21th Century "Neuronauts"
    http://www.fargonebooks.com/leary.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi Dipayankar;

    What I find amazing is what we accomplished on a physical level during the 1900's.

    Lets see there was air travel, electric lights, radio. television, computers, laser beams, genetic engineering, space travel ( including walking on the moon), satelites, atomic energy ( including the atomic bomb ), air conditioning, gas and electric heating, Mr. coffee, coffee pot, stereo, holograms....

    All within 100 years. from 4000BC to 1900AD not much difference and then BANG.

    Maybe we were visited by aliens.

    I think now maybe it's time to turn to spiritual and mental things.

    Best to you,

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    Are we a part of a much larger civilisation? Else how come we evolved into this kind of intelligence so fast??
    Julian Jaynes at the publication of his book "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", taught psychology at Princeton University.

    At the heart of this book is the revolutionary idea that human consciousness did not begin far back in animal evolution but is a learned process brought into being out of an earlier hallucinatory mentality by cataclysm and catastrophe only 3000 years ago and still developing. The implications of this new scientific paradigm extend inot virtually every aspect of our pshycology, our history and culture, our religion---and indeed, our future. In the words of one reviewer, it is "a humbling text, the kind that reminds me most of us who make our living through thinking, how much thinking there is left to do."

    "This book and this man's ideas may be the most influential, not to say controversial, of the second half of the twentieth century. It renders whole shelves of books obsolete."
    Columbus Dispatch

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    Re: An Idea

    Hi Drifter;

    Why 3,000 years ago?

    I believe "civilization and it's discontents" started ~4,000 BC, or 6,000years ago. Thats when writing was invented and the wheel and when history and commerce started.

    Best to you,

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea

    Quote Originally Posted by dipayankar View Post
    Are we a part of a much larger civilisation? Else how come we evolved into this kind of intelligence so fast??

    Dip some weird and wonderful things here (hope link works)

    <a href="http://xfacts.com/updates"><img src="http://xfacts.com/xbanner.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0"></a>

    Might have to copy and paste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tina View Post
    Dip some weird and wonderful things here (hope link works)

    <a href="http://xfacts.com/updates"><img src="http://xfacts.com/xbanner.gif" width="468" height="60" border="0"></a>

    Might have to copy and paste.
    That's html code, Tina, which doesn't work here. You mean this (click the banner for the link):



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    [quote=neutralino;41523]That's html code, Tina, which doesn't work here. You mean this (click the banner for the link):



    Great Neutralino and Tina;

    I've been busted. Yes I got my Idea from a little vistor from the Star System of Pleiades, and now he's afraid and going to return home. He's using my cell phone now. He doesn't want to wind up dissected on a table like his friends at Area 51. So I hope you're happy.

    Pat

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    Re: An Idea

    From the cover Profpat,

    "When Julian Jaynes . . .speculates that until late in the second millenium B.C. men had no consciousness but were automatically obeying the voices of the gods, we are astounded but compelled to follow this remarkable thesis through all the corroborative evidence . . ." John Updike, in The New Yorker

    Having just finished The Origin of Consciousness, I myself feel something like Keats' Cortez staring out at the Pacific. or at least like the early reviewers of Darwin or Freud. I'm not quite sure what to make this new territory; but its expanse lies before me and I am startled by its power." Edward Profitt, in Commonweal

    I will attempt to find the answer to this in the book Prof.

    I read it randomly and consider it a referential tool.

    He is speaking of two dis-similar consciousness's, one progressing out of the other though it appears we could be (or did) digress from a certain higher point ( The garden of eden metaphor?)or degree in antiquity, with the formation of the I and Me concept in relative consciousness.


    Quote Originally Posted by Profpat View Post
    Hi Drifter;

    Why 3,000 years ago?

    I believe "civilization and it's discontents" started ~4,000 BC, or 6,000years ago. Thats when writing was invented and the wheel and when history and commerce started.

    Best to you,

    Pat


 

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