[Bob Campbell]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar; What I find amazing is what we accomplished on a physical level during the 1900's. Lets see there was air travel, electric lights, radio. television, computers, laser beams, genetic engineering, space travel ( including walking on the moon), satelites, atomic energy ( including the atomic bomb ), air conditioning, gas and electric heating, Mr. coffee, coffee pot, stereo, holograms.... All within 100 years. from 4000BC to 1900AD not much difference and then BANG. Maybe we were visited by aliens. I think now maybe it's time to turn to spiritual and mental things. Best to you, Pat

Hi Pat,

Recent developments in the last century do sound amazing. However we tend to judge history in the light of our recent accomplishments which we tend to credit to our more superior intellect. Nevertheless human perceptions have not changed substantially in at least 30,000 years. The exquisite cave paintings at Altamira, Lascaux, and other places, attest to this. What we modern humans fail to appreciate is the change in the focus of human development over the broad sweep of history spanning not only millenia but millions of years. We are now evolving within a fixed biological format that our natural history has converged upon.

A close examination of the fossil and natural living record reveals a pattern consistent with the whole pattern of biological evolution and its relation to geological evolution of the planet. For example homo-erectus first migrated out of Africa about 1 million years ago. They had fire, simple tools, and very probably language because they hunted big game in groups. At the end of their span thay had brains as large as ours.

Homo sapiens (modern humans) migrated out of Africa as early as 60,000 years ago and laid the groundwork for future developments. There are interesting features about the evolution of language, since sub-Saharan languages today are universally tonal and they also have tenses to verbs. These languages also lend themselves to polyrhythmic music that developed only in Africa. Our ancient musical heart is with our African brothers. This is the primary focus of the ancient part of the human brain called the Limbic System that fuels patterned emotional energy to the conscious intellect. It is primary to our thinking. African cultures are universally spirit cultures in an organic sense despite conversions to Christianity and Islam.

In the migration to the Far East the Sino-Tibetan languages became universally tonal with few conjunctions, no tenses to verbs, and no articles to link things and events up in a flow through space and time as the Indo-European languages do. These Far Eastern languages are holistic in character with universal classifications for every noun. Meaning comes together as a gestalt. These correspond to right brain languages. The Eastern mind is highly intuitive. These cultures are universally spirit cultures too, similar to the Native Americans that came from the East. But their spiritual intuitions have a cosmic flair as expressed in the Taoist and Buddhist traditions concerned with the cosmic order.

In the movement westward the Indo-European languages developed elaborate tenses that relate events to a flow through space and time. The whole idea of causal linkages is implicit in Western languages and vital to the development of Western Science that came tens of thousands of years later. Any tendency to convergence between these three focal points of the human intellect was forestalled by the Himalayan massive, and the emergence of the Sahara desert well over 5,000 years ago following the last ice-age. The development of these three primary focal points of the human character have thus received independent development on the planet associated the three primary races, with mixes between them in the Middle East.

This complementary triadic pattern is implicit throughout the whole natural history of biological evolution in close accord with the plate tectonics of planetary evolution. It is further played out in more recent history over the 15,000 years since spirit cultures first crossed over to the Americas. As this migration established a human presence throughout the Western Hemisphere, the first civilizations rose in the Nile valley, Mesopotamia, the Indus valley and a bit later in the Yellow River valley, with specific insights into the cosmic order. Systems of writing evolved with concentrated populations working collectively.

Then the early empires came. The Persian Empire of the East was replaced by the Western Greek Empire under Alexander. Early holistic Greek thinking to the time of Plato was influenced by Vedic thought from the East. This became turned around by Alexander’s teacher Aristotle who focused Western thought explicitly on cause and effect. This became transplanted by the Romans Westward throughout Europe alongside Christianity before the empire collapsed. The seeds of further Western development incubated until the renaissance. There was a complementary movement Eastward with Buddhism which complemented Taoist and Confucian thought.

The Golden Age of Islam rose with the collapse or Rome. It was fuelled by African connections and tribal spirit roots, and began to awaken the human spirit from its slumber. Bagdad was built as the capital of a theocratic world empire. It was an advanced city of a million or more when the largest cities in the West were a few tens of thousands living in comparative squalor. Muslim libraries had hundreds of thousands of copies when those in Europe had a few hundred at most. In the Far East the civilizations of Angkor in Cambodia and Pagan in Burma had cities that numbered over a million, both with massive temple building that preceded anything comparable in the West.

The advance of Islam from the South was broken by Genghis Khan from the East who established the largest land empire ever. It was this Eastern threat together with Islam from across the south knocking at the door of Europe that shook the Western mind to rediscover the causal principles of Aristotle that fuelled the renaissance and the birth of Western science. The Western colonial empires followed, with entrenchment in the East. Then came the multinational corporations and the current threat to global resources with burgeoning populations.

The same pattern is there throughout our natural evolutionary history. Small beginnings grow to massive proportions then collapse and something new and more refined comes. It has been repeated again and again with the plants, the invertebrates, and the vertebrates. The tiny mosses and lichens became giant club mosses and horse tails that collapsed. Giant invertebrates collapsed into more refined species of insects that became pollinating vectors with the advent of the flowering plants. The dinosaurs gave way to the mammals that needed the more concentrated food of the flowering plants. Successive waves of giant mammals also reached colossal proportions before they too collapsed into the more refined species that we know today. The pace of the pattern acelerates with each refinement within itself.

With the history of modern humans came the alternating pattern between East and West as civilizations emerged with the same repetitive cycle of exploring the limits to size then a collapse with more refined developments that follow. The pattern has become internalized into the organization of our thought processes and our socio-economic organizations. The overall pattern indicates that we are facing another imminent collapse of our massive multinational organizations with a more refined approach to organization structure to follow. These organizational dinosaurs are straining the planet to the limit.

This must reorient our thinking in more constructive ways if we are to survive as a species. It requires that the three focal points of human development find a sustainable creative balance. This must reflect a genuine and far more profound insight into the structural dynamics of the cosmic order. This is not something that we can intellectually contrive. We must intuitively see it directly. This involves cosmic insight. But it must be something that we can intellectually interpret in more pragmatic and meaningful ways.

Please accept my apologies for writing too much. There is urgency to it. There is an article on my website about the History of Human Development that might interest you. I also have a book in preparation that is much more detailed. The pattern is written large throughout our natural and social evolution.

Best wishes,
Bob
www.cosmic-mindreach.com

[Profpat]

Hi Bob;

Thank you for your very interesting post. Sort of a brief history of mankind. I also agree with the concept of limits, both in nature, and in mankind.


The pyramids are a good example, you can only go so high before they collapse, and the way that was determined was building one that did collapse. The same was true for cathedrals.

Also you can see man's evolutionary growth through architecture. First Stonehedge, impressive that they could place those massive rocks on top of those stones. Next the pyramids, more impressive of man's skills, and then, the what I think is the apex, the cathedral. ( All dedicated to the Divine ). The skyscrapers, while also impressive lost much of it's beauty do to efficiency. ( dedicated to the new religion-business ).

So again thanks for your post,

Pat

[Drifter]

It is said that India is the cradle of mankind D.
So I would question the ambiguity of the evolution of man as possibly having an encounter with a superior entity at some point in time.
Julian Jaynes in his book gives several examples of how consciosuness evolved to the realtive state that is today in his book mentioned before. The correlations as he presents them are definitely worth consideration in lew of the stereotyped images and accounts we have up until now, at least they could be an addendum not necessarily negating what has been uncovered anthropologically.

Originally Posted by dipayankar What I meant was that the time taken for Homo Sapiens to evolve from apes have been relatively fast considering the pace of evolution prior to it. There is no compelling reason for this fast paced evolution. So my question is that is there a gene that was triggered at some point of time??

[Bob Campbell]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Bob; The pyramids are a good example, you can only go so high before they collapse, and the way that was determined was building one that did collapse. The same was true for cathedrals. Also you can see man's evolutionary growth through architecture. First Stonehedge, impressive that they could place those massive rocks on top of those stones. Next the pyramids, more impressive of man's skills, and then, the what I think is the apex, the cathedral. ( All dedicated to the Divine ). The skyscrapers, while also impressive lost much of it's beauty do to efficiency. ( dedicated to the new religion-business ). So again thanks for your post, Pat

Hi Pat,

Good to hear from you. You may be interested in my recent article "Ancient Egypt's TOE - Part 2" about the pyramids.

Best wishes,
Bob

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by Bob Campbell Hi Pat, Good to hear from you. You may be interested in my recent article "Ancient Egypt's TOE - Part 2" about the pyramids. Best wishes, Bob

Hi Bob;

I found it, copied it, and now in the process of reading it,

You must be one of those " Renaissance Men " knowledge of a lot of things.

Best,

Pat

[dipayankar]

Directed Panspermia does sound an interesting concept. It does sometimes look a little strange that mankind has progressed so far as compared to other species.

[Profpat]

Hi Drifter;

I looked up Julian James book at google books:
( http://books.google.com/bkshp?tab=wp )
and then searched for;
The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. ( You have to type the entire title in your search ).

There is the index, the chapters, readings from the chapters, etc. It does look like an interesting book, thanks for the tip.

Best to you,

Pat

[everymansmedium]

Hello friends:
The reason that mankind moved so quickly during the past 100 years is because of passing 2 major barriers to progress. One is global communication with the radio and telegraph this broke down all the pre existing barriers to the intercommunication between all men. The other is the prime mover that let the power of combustion move the materials needed as opposed to the power of animals only. These 2 discoveries created a downhill to progress. We had one more device that changed the slope toward progress.
The Computer this led to the internet and the ability to translate all of the languages of man. Resulting in the removal of whatever barriers remain between men. We have one more yet to come. That will expand what we do exponentially. That is the machine that builds and maintains itself. This takes the biological machine out of the process completely. Then progress can for all practical purposes approach the speed of light. It all has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with the lay of the land. We have created a machine that is moving much to fast for our ability to control it. It looks very much like the end of our control is at hand.
We need drastic measures to save ourselves from our own antisocial machine (capitalism)
We do not need to end it. We can not do this as it is needed as part of our global government.
We simply must allow social control of the social functions.
This are social functions. Capitalism has no business in control of these. These belong to all peoples not just for the rich.
(Political Judicial Education Medical Communication)
We are presently headed toward global Fascism. (Corporate control of our world)
We only think we are in control.
John.

[Drifter]

Only in a democratic society with supposed "equal rights".
can disidents be labeled heritics or anarchist or subversives, and once "labeled "perps" you are treated worse than a rabid dog. So, in most cases, just by speaking up you draw unwanted attention to your self.
Like Don King said, "Only in America". Do the rich walk away free from their crimes.
And history is written by the "victors".

Originally Posted by everymansmedium Hello friends: The reason that mankind moved so quickly during the past 100 years is because of passing 2 major barriers to progress. One is global communication with the radio and telegraph this broke down all the pre existing barriers to the intercommunication between all men. The other is the prime mover that let the power of combustion move the materials needed as opposed to the power of animals only. These 2 discoveries created a downhill to progress. We had one more device that changed the slope toward progress. The Computer this led to the internet and the ability to translate all of the languages of man. Resulting in the removal of whatever barriers remain between men. We have one more yet to come. That will expand what we do exponentially. That is the machine that builds and maintains itself. This takes the biological machine out of the process completely. Then progress can for all practical purposes approach the speed of light. It all has nothing to do with intelligence. It has to do with the lay of the land. We have created a machine that is moving much to fast for our ability to control it. It looks very much like the end of our control is at hand. We need drastic measures to save ourselves from our own antisocial machine (capitalism) We do not need to end it. We can not do this as it is needed as part of our global government. We simply must allow social control of the social functions. This are social functions. Capitalism has no business in control of these. These belong to all peoples not just for the rich. (Political Judicial Education Medical Communication) We are presently headed toward global Fascism. (Corporate control of our world) We only think we are in control. John.

[Profpat]

To everyone;

I'll be discussing the metaphysical part of my Idea, shortly, but before that discussion I located an interesting internet regarding the I Ching and the something to nothing concept:

From Wuji to Yin and Yang

What is there before the outset? And how does something come from nothing? Those are the deep philosophical questions posed by the diagram on the left.
The initial emptiness, the empty circle, is called Wuji in Chinese (the characters on the right). In this context it is translated as "without polarity". Strictly, there is nothing, not even the boundary of the circle, but in making it the object of discussion we symbolize it. Of course we should not, because "nothing" isn't, because the name that can be named is not the true name. But we need it as a point of contrast with what is.
And that is the primary axis; being and nothingness, to borrow Sartre's term. In the Chinese cosmology, progressing to the middle symbol, this is the arising of Taiji (characters on the right). This term means "great polarity" and is a reference to the basic division of phenomena into Yin and Yang. At the most fundamental level Yang is what is, present energy; and Yin is what is not, receptive context. In Taiji these two aspects are still so tightly bound that there is nothing between them, only centred rotation.

The site that this is located at and further discussion on this topic is located at:
( http://www.yijing.co.uk/intro/wuji.html )

Best,

Pat