[MJA]

You are right that the balance of complementary opposites ( Yin/Yang ), do come from the wuji state, and indeed may be the only absolute state and is still present in the Eternal Here and Now.

Again I'm not sure.

Best to you,

Pat[/quote]

We don't have any of them YIN/Yang complementary opposite balance wuji states in our absolute states of Eternal Here and Now here in Reno, the state of Nevada.
Why do you?
What is that anyway?
Where are you?
Are you all serious?
Hello!
The closest thing I can think of as a wuji state is when my shorts are to tight.
And thats a wuji of a problem!

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MJA

[Profpat]

Actually MJA the wuji state is probably as close as we'll get to your absolute =. I guess it would be similar to the void. There is no differenciation. All is the same, NOTHING.

Now Mr. Smartie Pants for your wedgie.

Best,

Pat

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Drifter

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Nmaste Brother

Thanks,
But I think life is much more simple and easier than a "cosmic egg."
So is truth!

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MJA

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat

Actually MJA the wuji state is probably as close as we'll get to your absolute =. I guess it would be similar to the void. There is no differenciation. All is the same, NOTHING.

Now Mr. Smartie Pants for your wedgie.

Best,

Pat

NOTHING?

If you think all as nothing, you have nothing.
Wrong way Professor, wrong way!

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MJA

[Profpat]

OK MJA how about all is everything. Which comes from nothing. Again the something from nothing paradox.

Best,

Pat

[Profpat]

I've been thinking and Nobody reminded me of the fact that the I Ching trigrams can represent binary numbers.

I believe we all know that 0 and 1, or if you will
__ - - can represent anything. Any script, any picture, any movie. And so with this binary concept, I would imagine that everything could be represented, including holograms and maybe even our sense of our own reality.

[N0B0DY]

For what it's worth, Pat, you might wish to confer with Fredrick if you're on good terms with him. If you're serious about publishing your work professionally, or to write a book based on a taiji-to-toe idea, he or Austin might be able to help out.

I like your idea because it attempts to convey what others seem to ignore, which is the cause for the observable effects in the universe. The whole of reality could be as simple as a computer, running as a substrate binary system, with increasingly complex languages programmed into molecular structures like life's DNA structures.

To me, why it gets fuzzy is because unlike a computer, I have come to the conclusion that the universe cannot act as a physical hardware system that processes the information. I'm interested in what you might uncover about the zero-dimensional wuji state and whether or not you can better express it.

Unlike MJA's inference, it doesn't have to refer to thinking all that is observable is nothing, but that both all and nothing don't exist. That the observable universe consists of abstract objects instead of concrete objects, and can only be said to exist asymmetrically; whereas absolute symmetry equals a non-existent verse, not an existent universe. Otherwise, if concrete, it would require a particular time and place to exist, and I don't think the universe conforms to such arbitrary measures.

[Drifter]

Life has also been compared to a dream. These are metaphors for the mind to "consider" no to just accept or deny and forget about, that would change nothin nor bring about any insight. And reading anything of the subject would just be a waste of time if not at least given some thought. When life is compared to a dream it does denigrate life as some sort of meaningless fantasy. Life is too wonderful to be called an "illusion", unless we whisper the word in amazement as we might when witnessing the most astonishing magic trick. What could be more magnificent than this glorious universe, in all its multifarious extravangence? Its awesome vastness and delicate detail. Its impersonal precision and intimate intensity. Its harsh necessities and lush sensuality. This dream of life is truly marvelous.
All we have to do is wake up and realize the real I, You, They, and Them are all the dreamer, participating in our own individual dream collectively called the waking state.
And as that dreamer we are the One dreaming him/her self as the many.
So Wake up, and have a good laugh.
What could be more 'Simple' than that?

Originally Posted by MJA

Thanks,
But I think life is much more simple and easier than a "cosmic egg."
So is truth!

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MJA

[Profpat]

Hi Nobody;

I don't think I can better express the concept of wuji.
I can't say it's nothing because that implies "things".
Being a theist I assume God is eternal, and was the creator of all things. But God by definition would be a
Person or Thing. I started my particle creation Idea with the Void, but included Brahman, Joy and Life, in that Void. As the link I posted said: " The name that can be named is not the true name " So, I don't know that the concept of wuji is capable of being expanded upon.

Fredrick and I get along fine. It was he that told me on one of my first post that I surely could mention God on his thread. Ever since I have great respect for him.

Austin, God bless him, was the one who was able to transport my pdf file to an actual post and made it easier to read in the process.

I actually welcome all input regarding my Idea, which includes not only you, but Austin and Fredrick, and all others.

Best to you,

Pat

[MJA]

Originally Posted by N0B0DY

Unlike MJA's inference, it doesn't have to refer to thinking all that is observable is nothing, but that both all and nothing don't exist. That the observable universe consists of abstract objects instead of concrete objects, and can only be said to exist asymmetrically; whereas absolute symmetry equals a non-existent verse, not an existent universe. Otherwise, if concrete, it would require a particular time and place to exist, and I don't think the universe conforms to such arbitrary measures.

Hi Nobody,

I see nature's reality, nature's truth, immeasurably concrete.
The only abstract unreal in my universe comes from others misguided thoughts as well as alas, many of my own.
Nothing is an example of an abstact thought that does not exist.
It is only those abstract thoughts that cloud the everything that truly is.
The asymmetry that you refer to in our universe is created by the imperfection of those abstract thoughts as well as the uncertainty and flaws of measure.
Many of those abstracts we have been taught to think.
Nature is much more symetrical, balanced, and equal than you measure or think.
By letting go of those imperfections, those abstract thoughts, those uncertain measurements or judgements,
allows a real true universe of simple natural beauty to appear.
Clear your thoughts of what you think you know and of what you have been taught,
then go outside and study nature's truth as if for the first time, and see what truly is.
One can only see truth with absolute clarity, with one's own nonabstract clear mind.
Don't judge or measure, only observe and be one with it all.
Be one with a universe filled with wonder and awe.
Nature is not an abstract dream, it is a true miracle to behold!

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MJA