An Idea

[Drifter]

I'm sure this is nothing new?
Anyway, here goes.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/learning/consciousness_competence.htm

http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newISS_96.htm

http://www.mentoringforchange.co.uk/snippets/energy.php#energy

[Drifter]

If memory serves, its been over 35 years now since I threw the yarrow sticks, when the sticks are tossed the results are left to chance.

The western equivalent, would be The Ouija board.

[Bob Campbell]

The sole purpose for my being here is to better express the correlation of the above with consciousness. Whereby the wuji is representative of absolute unconsciousness; the taiji of infinite subconsciousness; and the tao of the new consciousness arising from the transcendence of the taiji and the negation of the ego.

My method of madness can be likened to those pieces of the puzzle you mentioned, but popping up here and there instead of trying too hard to find the answers to everything. Like remembering something when you've given up trying to remember it. Similarly, meditative practices which attempt to generalize and crystallize the form of what is individualistic, I disavow because they can be expensive both financially and mentally. As you no doubt know there are certain experiences that allow us to realize how the universe overcomes its ill effects. For this reason, though I respect others' beliefs, I steer clear of divination as well because it has a tendency to often lead folks down a path of insanity or worse.

Hi Nobody,

I too steer clear of divination and similar practices that are not transparent. Consciousness has universal characteristics shared by all sentient creatures although our degree of access to universal consciousness is generally confined by our particular circumstances and the frameworks of understanding that we accept in one way or another. There is a large component of cultural conditioning involved that is generally not transparent and that tends to be egocentric. I think that meditation practices should be directed at accessing deeper levels of experience that transcend the personal ego.

A vital characteristic of the cosmic order is that it is isomorphic. The same pattern of structural dynamics keeps recurring in different disguises according to the circumstances. It doesn't provide final answers to anything but it can facilitate insight into the nature of phenomenal experience in more constructive ways. This helps to overcome our conditioning. As you say, the pieces of the puzzle start to pop into place more spontaneously. One can begin to see how this applies to the hard sciences also. There is a sense of harmony to it that is expressed through exploring all possible structural dynamics of the music without limiting its behavioral variety as we perceive it around us. Eighty-eight piano keys are enough to play an infinite number of tunes.

Regards,
Bob

[Profpat]

I'm sure this is nothing new?
Anyway, here goes.

http://changingminds.org/explanations/learning/consciousness_competence.htm

http://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newISS_96.htm

http://www.mentoringforchange.co.uk/...rgy.php#energy

Hi Drifter;

Thank you for the above links.
I do have a little problem with the last link however.

In that link they refer to the four types of personal energy as:

PHYSICAL-the quanity of energy
EMOTIONAL-the quality of energy
MENTAL-the focus of energy
and then they introduced a 4th type
SPIRITUAL-the force of energy.

That is where my problem rests. Suddenly you have Quadricity rather than Trinity.
As I'm sure you and others are aware I'm a great believer in Trinity, both in terms of my Idea, 3 quarks, as well as Mind, Body, and Spirit ( Emotion ), or if you will Mental, Physical, and Emotional.

I believe therefore that the force of the energy is the PERSON, using the dynamics of the three aformentioned energy sources.

Without getting to windy what do you think?

Best,

Pat

[Drifter]

I believe Professor the three, when inculcated, express as the fourth. The "wholeness" of the individual resonating as the one, where the unmanifest and the manfest come together, if you will. As in Self-Realization/Self-Awareness as That Creative Energy, at-one with it. Try to perceive it as a Gnostic and not as a Literalist?

Hi Drifter;

Thank you for the above links.
I do have a little problem with the last link however.

In that link they refer to the four types of personal energy as:

PHYSICAL-the quanity of energy
EMOTIONAL-the quality of energy
MENTAL-the focus of energy
and then they introduced a 4th type
SPIRITUAL-the force of energy.

That is where my problem rests. Suddenly you have Quadricity rather than Trinity.
As I'm sure you and others are aware I'm a great believer in Trinity, both in terms of my Idea, 3 quarks, as well as Mind, Body, and Spirit ( Emotion ), or if you will Mental, Physical, and Emotional.

I believe therefore that the force of the energy is the PERSON, using the dynamics of the three aformentioned energy sources.

Without getting to windy what do you think?

Best,

Pat

[Profpat]

Thank you Drifter for your response.

Personally, if don't mind, I think I'll interpret, " The wholeness of the individual resonating as the one ", as Person, ( Note the capital P )

Best,

Pat

[Drifter]

yes Professor, persona/personae, would be a whole different ball of wax, imho.

Thank you Drifter for your response.

Personally, if don't mind, I think I'll interpret, " The wholeness of the individual resonating as the one ", as Person, ( Note the capital P )

Best,

Pat

[MJA]

Dear Drifter,

"Hence the soul rejoices when it beholds the Truth and is happy when it is in harmony with the Good, but its highest experiences are those wherein it beholds the Supreme Beauty."

A Sage is one who shares the truth,
And you are truly one.

=
MJA

And now back to An Idea Professor, thanks for the interlude!

[Profpat]

I agree with you MJA, Drifter is truly a sage who shares knowledge and the truth.

[Drifter]

When you dream you appear to be a dream-persona in a dreamworld, but actually you are awareness and the dreamworld exists within you.
In the same way right now you appear to be a person in the life-dream, but actually you are awareness and the life-dream exists in you.

Lets look . . .

Right now you are experiencing your thoughts and the world of senses.

Do you agree?

We usually think of our thoughts as existing within awareness and the world as existing independantly of awareness. But is that right?

If you pay attention to what is happening right now you will see that you experience the world as a series of sensations: visual images, tactile feelings, background sounds, ambient aromas.

And sensations exist within awareness don't they?

Everything you are aware of exist within awareness, otherwise you wouldn't be aware of it!

So what is awareness?

Awareness isn't something within your experience. It is an emptiness that contains all you are experiencing.

That's right isn't it?

Become conscious of yourself as a spacious emptiness within which everything you are experiencing right now exists.

These printed words you are reading on this page exist within awareness.

These ideas reverberating in your mind exists within awareness.

And what you see and hear and touch and imagine exists within awareness.

The world exists within awareness.

You may appear to be a phsical body in the world, but actually you are awareness and the world exists in you.

If that comes as a shock - there's more.

You don't exist in time!

Look for yourself right now.

Time is the perpetual flow of ever-changing appearances which awareness witnesses.

Time exists within awareness.

Awareness is outside of time.

You are timeless awareness dreaming itself to be a person in time. Far out!

the world exists in you

Dear Drifter,

"Hence the soul rejoices when it beholds the Truth and is happy when it is in harmony with the Good, but its highest experiences are those wherein it beholds the Supreme Beauty."

A Sage is one who shares the truth,
And you are truly one.

=
MJA

And now back to An Idea Professor, thanks for the interlude!