I should add further, that is my trinity of mind, body and spirit.
Me, My Self, and I.
ME (Mass and Energy) is the Body I ( Intelligence) is the Mind Self ( The little elf inside me) is the Spirit.
We have some wonderful conversations. It's when we start arguing and lose the argument that I begin to worry.
Did I mention the asylum that I would probably qualify for entrance into before?
Best to all,
Pat
I might debate that "Self" with you Professor.
Self, True SELF, is that "Spark" within, and that's what shines out and lights our individual world, which is really one world, seen from myriad aspects/perceptions.
Still doesnt answer my question... who created God??
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Man has a tendency to create a God in his image, an anthropomorphic projection no less.
As has been said, "I don't believe in the god you don't believe in either."
This is the "God" nobody believes in and, rightfully so. But when ones true essential nature is recognised, then God is realised, and as that essential nature, we are all God.
But there is no God one can see, God is that in us that is the Seeing. Except the nature of God can be known, get the picture?
[quote=Drifter;42183]I might debate that "Self" with you Professor.
Self, True SELF, is that "Spark" within, and that's what shines out and lights our individual world, which is really one world, seen from myriad aspects/perceptions.
Our individual worlds is the asylum Profpat.[/quot
Hi Drifter;
I view the dynamics of Trinity similar to the Freudian Id, Ego, and Superego.
The Id ( Child ), BODY Eats when hungry, sleeps when tired, sweats when necessary, etc.
The Ego ( Parent ), MIND This is the I am. I am right you are wrong. Do as I say. I am in charge, etc.
The Superego ( Adult ), SPIRIT This the the objective witness. This is the God principle Self in all of us.
Best,
Pat
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Who created God? The ultimate question. The question I asked religious people, and myself for the first 20 years of my adult life. Then through the study of cosmology the question turned on me. Who created the Universe? No matter which way we ask the question, either from the religious, or scientific way, we still come up with the same question. What created God, or Universe?
Who or what created God or Universe, is the science that I have been involved in my whole life. Having plenty of people studying the questions about the makeup of God and Universe, gave me what seems like unlimited knowledge to read on the subjects. I always knew, no matter what Objective knowledge I absorbed, my answer to the ultimate question would have to be, a Subjective one. Finding that the study of both God and Universe where shrouded in mysticism, about their true nature, I accepted this fact, that only a Subjective answer will do.
My subjective answer to the question (Who or What created God or Universe?) is; "Paradox of Potential". I came to this Subjective conclusion, after a 17 year study of every bit of knowledge I could get my hands on, about Spiritualism and Scientism. I concluded that, if God or Universe were created, they had to created from a non-substance/something. The only thing I could come up with that had this Paradoxical nature was, "Potential". "Potential" being a non-substance, fulfilled its paradoxical dual nature, and gave birth to Something. This Something some call God, and others call Universe, I call "Aware".
__________________ Allen.
"Paradox of Potential popped Aware." ~Allen Barrow
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." ~Albert Einstein 1879 - 1955
"Condemnation without Investagation is the Heigth of Ignorance" ~Albert Einstein
"In questions of science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of a single individual." ~Galileo Galilei.
I agree the something from nothing or the eternal something is very subjective and to some degree a matter of personal belief. I don't know that anyone will ever know for sure, at least not while we are bound to our bodies and time and space.
Life is, in all its manifestations in every animate force, [the] Creative Forces in action.
Life is creative and and is the manifestation of that energy, that oneness, which may be wholly discerned or discovered in materiality [if we don't allow time for such creative pursuits as the arts in our daily life]---and yet is the basis of all motivating forces and influences in the experiences of an individual.
And what is life? God manifested in the material plane. For it is still in Him that we live and move and have our being. Thus life as a material manifestation is the expression of that Universal Force or Energy we call God. Life, as a whole, is a continuous thing emanating from power, energy, God-consciousness, ever. [Life is God] in power, in might, in the awareness of the strength needed to meet every problem day by day.
When Awareness Knows Sensation - Consciousness is born.
When Awareness[Father_latent_potential] Knows Sensation [Mother Nature-being known to get a rise out of the old man] Consciousness [Relative consciousness is the by-product the former two Now 'Be'come One having given birth too.]
which would be called the Trinity.
see?
Matter is the vehicle on this plane of existence for the maifestation of the soul, the soul, on a higher plane of existence is the vehicle for the manifestation of spirit, these three are a trinity - synthesized by life which pervades them all.
If the Universe needs a creator as the religious people consider, then even God would need a creator. There cant be two yardsticks for the same concept...
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God then is perhaps as cyclic as the universe you propose, Dip.
Linear Mode
