[Drifter]

Originally Posted by Profpat While I may use the word I too much, you my friend are far to windy. Everything above could have been stated by you as " You shouldn't believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible" Which most of us would agree with. It's like quoting from the Tao or Gita. That doesn't mean you are a fundamentalist about Taoism or Hinduism. So lighten up on the preaching and you'll be far more effective. Best, Pat

It wasn't my intention to come across as preaching Prof.

Who am I to tell anyone what to think or how to act?

What was posted is for all and not necessarily directed at you.

Everyone will derive their own meaning from it, or not.

It was meant to point out the obvious, nothing more, sorry you took offence Sir, none was meant.

[Profpat]

Originally Posted by MJA Right on Greg, The universe is the painter, and all thing are original paintings of the universe. = MJA

Agreed! No two DNA molecules are alike nor any two snowflakes. But isn't God the painter and the universe his canvas?

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Greg; Why doesn't everything evolve into man, which is the final stage of evolution, the image and likeness of God? Both the theory of evolution and the Bible has steps or stages towards man. And if the stages are 1 celled life to more complex structures or entities, why do we have the diversity of things and life that we observe. Both the Bible and evolutionary science has vegatation, reptiles, mammals, and finally man, in that order but why? HMMMM!! Still thinking. Pat

Man is the final stage?
Steps to God?
compexity is evolution?
"vegatation, reptiles, mammals, and finally man, in that order"
Still thinking?
Likeness of God?

Stop thinking Professor, that is all totally wrong and untrue.

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[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat Agreed! No two DNA molecules are alike nor any two snowflakes. But isn't God the painter and the universe his canvas?

God is not a person, a thing, God is equally everything.
The infinite universe is the painter and the infinite universe the painting!
It is the universe that creates a new star, as well as you and me.
It is you and me as well as a star that creates new things.
The Universe, is the Painter, is the Painting, is a Star, is You and Me, is Everything, is Equal, is United, is God.
The painter and the painting are united and is TOE..

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[Profpat]

Stop thinking Professor, that is all totally wrong and untrue.

I wish I could stop thinking, it's just part of my Person.

And you seem pretty sure of your self as to what is wrong and untrue, it must be nice to be omnipotent.

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Drifter Man has transcended the seven kingdoms and is the penacle of creation. Each of the lower kingdoms supports the next higher. Sperm and ovum are by products of all these kingdoms collectively oraganized in bringing forth a human entity into this world. The breath of awareness is what gives the entity it's vivifying creative force known as life. The soul enters the entity at the moment of consception.

There are no higher or lower universes than the one that is all.
It cannot be measured as different, because their is only one.
Awareness of one unites all.

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MJA

[MJA]

Originally Posted by dipayankar Plato and Aristotle were in an age where God was the dominating factor. As time passed and human beings started deciphering the Universe more and more, the need for the concept called God is diminishing....

It is not that God is being diminished as you suggest, but rather only redefined as the universe or the unity or oneness of all.
The definition of God is Truth!

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[MJA]

Mankind is an expert at the religious and scientific judgement, measure, division, and complication of a universe that is truly just, immeasurable, indivisable, simple, and someday, through wisdom, one and free.

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MJA

[MJA]

Originally Posted by Profpat Stop thinking Professor, that is all totally wrong and untrue. I wish I could stop thinking, it's just part of my Person. And you seem pretty sure of your self as to what is wrong and untrue, it must be nice to be omnipotent.

I am sure that it is nice to know the truth, are you sure?

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MJA

[dipayankar]

I would not like to get into the debate of Atheist vs Religious in this thread. What is more interesting is the creation of matter / energy. I am convinced that the Big Bang was just a part of a larger process. The quention as to how matter was created is my quest now. As of today I do not have any answer... But lets go get an answer...

Originally Posted by Profpat Hi Dipayankar; You might want to rethink your above statement: Though atheists are in the minority in most countries, they are relatively common in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, in former and present Communist states, and, to a lesser extent, in the United States. A 1995 survey attributed to the Encyclopedia Britannica indicates that the non-religious are about 14.7% of the world`s population, and atheists around 3.8% . A 2004 survey by the CIA in the World Fact book estimates about 12.5% of the world`s population to be non-religious, and about 2.4% as atheists . Non-religious people should not be equated with atheists as the definition of non-religious persons includes the people who are professing no religion, non-believers, agnostics, freethinkers, dereligionized secularists indifferent to all religions. It is a surprise that even after six centuries of the exponential growth of the knowledge of science, more than 95% of the people do not deny the existence of God while almost 85% of the world population actually believes in God. It is also a fact that scientific knowledge has hardly made a dent on the popularity of the religions and faith. Even Isaac Newton, the greatest scientists of all times, believed "As a blind man has no idea of colours, so we have no idea of the manner by which the all-wise God perceives and understands all things.” Even the greatest scientist of the twentieth century, Albert Einstein agreed that “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” Also you didn't answer is your unknown force created or eternal or something else? Best Pat